That only deals with Windows 8 Consumer Preview. Not the Public Release.
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It's impossible to weigh in on Surface when we only handled one of the two tablets, and when each hands-on opportunity amounted to a Supermarket Sweep-style tour of various demo areas. Still, even after some brief handling, we feel impressed, almost sobered by what Microsoft's managed to produce after vowing to take the Windows 8 hardware-software package into its own hands. Surface for Windows RT is well-made, polished, durable and carefully engineered. And yes, that's sobering news: Microsoft's own OEM partners, everyone from ASUS to Acer to HP, should feel a tinge of defensiveness. If Redmond's mission until now has been to showcase all the possible form factors for Windows 8, it may have just taken a step in the opposite direction by upstaging everybody else.
I remember when Microsoft Surface was the LCD table they were innovating. Man I miss the days when Microsoft innovated instead of just copying whatever was popular .
So people should blinding listen to you bash MS by saying BS on something you never had any intention of buying, never used, and never touched? Yeah..i'm angry about something; the shear BS of your posts.
Perhaps you should enter with an open mind, and only judge a product after you had proper utilities to evaluate it first.
I'm not sure if you are aware of this fact. Hardforum doesn't consist of all the people in our nation. Because only 3 people said they want it on hardforum, let alone just in this thread. I doubt that means that it's an undesirable product.
No one here can claim to have a hands on or in dept opinion of a product that is of yet unreleased. So we are left to play around with the information and experience we have available. Having used Metro applications and viewed the store (and having similar tablet devices available), it's a whole load of meh, and there isn't anything to suggest otherwise. I'm not adversed to buying things, just when there isn't any reason to want one, it would be a little silly to.
It's not for a lack of open mind that I don't see this as a good product. Just every indicator at this moment points to it not being. Perhaps if the store becomes worthwhile, and the devices have some groundbreaking features the opinion will change.
But I don't exist merely on here either. I know a load of normal people too, 90% of which could nowhere near be described as tech savy... Those same people have spoken about iPhones, the Wii and Kinect and stuff like that...but discussions of Windows RT tablets have yet been suspiciously absent.
No one here can claim to have a hands on or in dept opinion of a product that is of yet unreleased. So we are left to play around with the information and experience we have available. Having used Metro applications and viewed the store (and having similar tablet devices available), it's a whole load of meh, and there isn't anything to suggest otherwise. I'm not adversed to buying things, just when there isn't any reason to want one, it would be a little silly to.
It's not for a lack of open mind that I don't see this as a good product. Just every indicator at this moment points to it not being. Perhaps if the store becomes worthwhile, and the devices have some groundbreaking features the opinion will change.
But I don't exist merely on here either. I know a load of normal people too, 90% of which could nowhere near be described as tech savy... Those same people have spoken about iPhones, the Wii and Kinect and stuff like that...but discussions of Windows RT tablets have yet been suspiciously absent.
So basically all you have is speculation. And you're generalizing the world based on your little corner of it. Got ya.
OK, those links I posted above, are just for you.
Geez, calm down.
I'd already pre-ordered the Samsung Ativ 700 Pro so I couldn't really justify $2k in tablets to the wife at this time and probably will hold out for the Surface Pro but yeah, this really looks like sexy device. And I'd like an ARM device to have for app development testing so I may have to sneak one of these guys into the house.
I'm already in for one...2 of my coworkers are in as well. Keep bashing MS. I guess bitching about Apple is no longer fun so we need something new to make our pathetically small lives feel like they are worth something.
But yeah, your would say that.
When something new comes out, especially in technology and computing, there will always be the early adopter market. MS' pricing strategy here is most like the skimming approach: basically start with the price highest that a customer is willing to pay and when that market segment demand is satisfied, lower the price to attract the price-sensitive buyers. I don't expect the $500 price for the RT tablet to stay there after the Christmas season ends especially since Spring is the period when Apple introduces the iPad refresh.Who exactly is buying them...i've not even seen anyone say they want one... it's not exactly got the general public all over it, yet they sold out...it's either marketing BS (likely) or BS.
I don't get why one would buy one. I can get a relatively inexpensive i3 based laptop , toss in 8gb ram and at least a 128gb SSD for less than the price of the cheapest surface.
I suppose I could say the same for almost any tablet, but with the keyboard add-on, it really seems like they were aiming to take some of the laptop market share.
Just as others would indiscriminately call everything about Windows 8/RT and those devices garbage having no experience with either.
All anyone has is speculation based on what we know now. Which isn't anything great.
I like me when i'm angry...
"I saw it for 5 minutes and liked it" doesn't count. He doesn't mention software at all, just he tried to load stuff and it loaded.
Who exactly is buying them...i've not even seen anyone say they want one... it's not exactly got the general public all over it, yet they sold out...it's either marketing BS (likely) or BS.
It is funny that Microsoft uses the term "sales" when referring to the Surface, considering that you don't, in fact, acquire the attributes that one usually associates with ownership of something. For example, Microsoft and only Microsoft dictates what you can and cannot install on what is supposedly "your" Surface. Microsoft can also remotely remove software, without your consent.
Been using it since the dev preview.
The surface RT is overpriced and can barely trade blows with the ipad2, which has been out 18 months. Oh and I was thinking of getting one of these for my mother, but at this price there's better options.
I could give two shits about platform if it can run office and visio natively it's worth that. I'm sure they will only release visio on the pro version though.
I could give two shits about platform if it can run office and visio natively it's worth that. I'm sure they will only release visio on the pro version though.
There is no Visio in the Office RT Suite. But Visio 2013 will run on any x86 tablet. Visio 2013 really needs a pen to work effectively on a tablet even though supports touch I think.
Office, native Windows file system support, memory slot, HDMI out, USB. unique keyboard cover and integrated kickstand with a magnesium case. This don't look like a bad device and may very well be well liked.
I don't get why one would buy one. I can get a relatively inexpensive i3 based laptop , toss in 8gb ram and at least a 128gb SSD for less than the price of the cheapest surface.
I suppose I could say the same for almost any tablet, but with the keyboard add-on, it really seems like they were aiming to take some of the laptop market share.
Precisely.
Exact reason I returned the iPad 3 last week. Android tablets have better connectivity. And they all suck. Just the spec sheet alone looks better than any tablet currently on the market, but no it can't be, its MS, it cant be good.....
I went through 4 different tablets this year. All disappointing, the latest victim, the iPad. This product is obviously not for some of you lot.