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I was thinking why, but then realized that the next version of Windows is going to be based on Linux. I can't see that being a good thing for Linux.Microsoft puts a ton of time into Linux coding and development. They know it's the future.
We'll always have freebsd.I was thinking why, but then realized that the next version of Windows is going to be based on Linux. I can't see that being a good thing for Linux.
Doesn't effect Linux. Linux is a kernel. If MS wants to fire 3/4 of their OS engineers and use the Kernel so be it. I would vastly improve windows. And yes it would give regular users little need to worry about Linux. I mean just like ChromeOS WindowsL is going to spy and track and all that fine stuff. But at least if things will be somewhat more secure. lol As for all the old silly archaic things windows does like Registry entries ect... Wine has already proven you can fake that stuff very easily. Hell I even setup macros to share simple settings that get saved in MS odd config save areas in my wine install with my Linux config. (Ok just a few things and I think both where my own work around for sharing save game for a couple games still MS stuff isn't all that different at the end of the day just formatted odd and they have 3 different ways to store the same info and developers often don't follow any of the official ways.)I was thinking why, but then realized that the next version of Windows is going to be based on Linux. I can't see that being a good thing for Linux.
why?
Embrace, extend, extinguish.
There is a bunch of complaints from people about this, but I see it as a positive. If Microsoft pushes more cross platform apps and the ability to run Linux apps in windows, game devs may be more inclined to release Linux versions and I can move to Linux permanently.This is cool, but I would much rather run Win 10 apps in Linux.
Microsoft is definitely investing a lot of time on Linux stuff, seems natural that they would do something like make Window 11 Linux-based.
I really hope they don't do an Android/ChomeOS thing that is locked down, but even in that scenario we'd probably see much better device drivers and stuff like that.
They're already doing this on the development side of things. Since the release of .NET Core, they've been building a framework that is OS agnostic. They're not just aiming for webservers and console apps either, they want UI apps built on .NET technology to run on anything too. Whether it be phones or a Raspberry Pi. It isn't just a "Let's get Windows apps running on Linux" thing either. It's all about embracing cross-platform development.This is cool, but I would much rather run Win 10 apps in Linux.
Microsoft is definitely investing a lot of time on Linux stuff, seems natural that they would do something like make Window 11 Linux-based.
I really hope they don't do an Android/ChomeOS thing that is locked down, but even in that scenario we'd probably see much better device drivers and stuff like that.
Embrace, extend, and extinguish is all but a reminder how bad this can get. I really doubt any software written for Linux Windows is going to work on other distros. Technically Android and ChromeOS use the linux kernel but aren't at the same level as common linux distros.More official software support will benifit all... UNLESS MS does something real stupid like lock software to some new non open API. (really though MS says they are more open source friendly... and as much as I don't want to believe them the last few years they do seem to be a fairly decent team player.)
It works on Linux because most things are standard and everything is open source. Apple's Mac OSX isn't open and doesn't even use the Vulkan API. Pretty sure it's going to be the same with Windows, with or without a linux kernel.But I mean MS has already proven if there is another OS (Mac) and even a non x86 ISA (M1) with hardware out there they can move all that stuff fairly painlessly. Most of the work developers are currently doing to support Apple... means a lot of major software pieces that where not already using cross platform APIs and other bits are moving that way now.
FTFYLinuxMicrosoft all the things!
This.Embrace, extend, and extinguish is all but a reminder how bad this can get.
There are plenty of GUI front end for Linux AI tools. There are also a lot of such tools that are in house. If you are AI start up with 10 computer scientists... you don't care much. If your a startup that is a few years old and you now have 100 employees... and 20 or 30 of them are basically just data entry types. Being able to hire cheaper less skilled people are just going to feed data is a nice option to have. (I think as it is most companies in that situation just run Linux anyway... BUT its surprising how many of them are interfacing with other companies old code and databases) As an example their are AI companies looking for efficiencies in older infrastructure systems using data from older databases. I'll give MS some credit it may not be a huge pool of potential users, but for a few companies yes this is going to make life a bit easier and perhaps a lot cheaper.I don't get it. What Linux-native GUI applications exist (and are widely used) that there isn't a Windows native version for? Most Linux GUI applications are just a clone of something that exists only on Windows, and they end up making a Windows version for it anyway.
I figure it's just to catch more server operators who either need to run mixed Windows/Linux environments or are hoping to transition to Windows. That and developers who might want to support Azure or other services in Linux.I don't get it. What Linux-native GUI applications exist (and are widely used) that there isn't a Windows native version for? Most Linux GUI applications are just a clone of something that exists only on Windows, and they end up making a Windows version for it anyway.
This makes sense. From an end-user perspective, I've had a hard time finding desktop programs that run on Linux distro's, FreeBSD, whatever, that were worth anything that didn't already have a Windows native version. I honestly don't think this will do anything for Windows developers to make Linux native version.There are plenty of GUI front end for Linux AI tools. There are also a lot of such tools that are in house. If you are AI start up with 10 computer scientists... you don't care much. If your a startup that is a few years old and you now have 100 employees... and 20 or 30 of them are basically just data entry types. Being able to hire cheaper less skilled people are just going to feed data is a nice option to have. (I think as it is most companies in that situation just run Linux anyway... BUT its surprising how many of them are interfacing with other companies old code and databases) As an example their are AI companies looking for efficiencies in older infrastructure systems using data from older databases. I'll give MS some credit it may not be a huge pool of potential users, but for a few companies yes this is going to make life a bit easier and perhaps a lot cheaper.
There are many developers out their working with massive data sets... you don't want to have to use your top pay Linux FU ninja employees to handle all of that, why hire 20 command line computer science degree employees if you can hire 15 key clickers. Now you can get the degreed coders to write one basic GUI wrapper to do the specific python ect things they want to do ect... and let the inexpensive windows only monkeys launch things with a click. I mean sure in house stuff could be compiled to run on windows and still interface with Linux. This might just make things a bit simpler... build it on Linux no fuss no muss no worries about Python versioning or anything else silly.
Have you tried using gscan2pdf? Very easy to use and it works on every printer I've tried so far. Also there's ioquake3 that works natively on Linux.I still would not run Windows even if you can run GUI Linux application in Win10. If MS does switch the kernel to Linux in Windows, they can still do all their data collection and spying. The only things I do in Windows are play one game I enjoy, Quake 3 from the CD I still own, print, and if needed scan something. I know my Brother printer has drivers for Linux, my scanner will only scan properly using the $40 Vuescan software for Linux (I don't scan that much) and I don't want to install Steam to play Quake 3.
Well the thing with open source stuff... is everyone making something that isn't Linux system related always compiles a windows version. I mean why not ? Compile it for Linux Windows Unix... Mac perhaps if its not using some API Apple doesn't like.This makes sense. From an end-user perspective, I've had a hard time finding desktop programs that run on Linux distro's, FreeBSD, whatever, that were worth anything that didn't already have a Windows native version. I honestly don't think this will do anything for Windows developers to make Linux native version.
I actually just switched back to using Ubuntu. I dual boot, but I was playing Cyberpunk and some other ray-tracing games that don't work on Linux yet (I know they've been making some progress though).
Honestly, my machine is faster, less bloat, and I just feel like I am in more control. Gaming is about the only reason to use Windows these days, at least for me. And that is becoming less of a deal with Proton.
There's just stuff on Windows that is eternally broken, and there is no sign it will ever be fixed. For example, file searching in explorer. It takes forever and doesn't even find what you are looking for (even if you know it exists). On Linux it works almost instantly.
I use Krita for photo editing and it's no Photoshop. Gaming is still a major problem and it's mostly Wine that's the problem. Native games off Steam works fine now, with no apparent problems I have to deal with. Most emulators now use AppImage, which actually works perfectly fine. Proton off Steam works mostly but there's still games that aren't compatible yet. Run Wine for games outside of Steam and you'll run into a lot of problems like I have. The older the hardware you have the worse it gets too. If your hardware can't do Vulkan then good luck because most stuff today depends on DXVK or VKD3D-Proton. I still haven't gotten Red Dead Redemption 2 working on Linux. DX9 games used to be happy with OpenGL 3.3 but now I gotta use "MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.3" to get old DX9 games working on graphic cards that can only do OpenGL 3.3.Yep, I dual boot and gaming is the major thing that keeps a windows partition on my machine. I also would rather do my photo editing in Affinity Photo instead of Gimp! All my other computer needs are handled by MX Linux.
and then finally, it can be "the year of linux"Fork Linux. Put billions into MS Linux. Make better (supported) versions of everything and make them native to MS Linux. Add a proprietary closed source desktop or something. Now 95% of people use linux, but they use the MS fork of it which has back compatibility for everything. Is the only one that runs office. Only one supported by Adobe etc. Make sure everything is hopelessly broken on vanilla linux until the only people backporting are GNUphiles.
Proton works pretty good but like I said I need Proton to work outside of Steam. One solution I have is using Proton GE as Wine. It's tricky but I've had success by making a Wine Prefix for it and then copying some Wine files so I have access to winecfg. I rename the dist folder and move it to /opt. So instead of running "wine game.exe" I run "WINEPREFIX=/home/username/.proton /opt/proton-ge/bin/wine game.exe". It works surprisingly well, even though I'm not suppose to use Proton outside of Steam. Also don't mix up regular Wine and Proton in the same prefix as that can mess things up. Keep .wine for regular Wine or Wine-Staging and .proton for Proton stuff.I've had good luck with Proton. Most of the games I try work fine out-of-box, and a few others just need small tweaks to the launch options.
One game that gave me a lot of trouble was Watch Dogs 2, the game itself was fine (and even better performance than Windows) but the damn UPlay messed things up.
Haven't tried it in a few months, maybe they fixed it, but it was really annoying (would lock up my computer, though I could still kill it with the command line).
Fork Linux. Put billions into MS Linux. Make better (supported) versions of everything and make them native to MS Linux. Add a proprietary closed source desktop or something. Now 95% of people use linux, but they use the MS fork of it which has back compatibility for everything. Is the only one that runs office. Only one supported by Adobe etc. Make sure everything is hopelessly broken on vanilla linux until the only people backporting are GNUphiles.