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There is a teardown of the Xbox One posted at iFixit today. Look at all the room inside that thing! I need to get cracking on an internal watercooling setup.
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Unfortunately, Microsoft does not offer an easy way to replace it without voiding the warranty and going past two components of the console and several Torx screws.
For the past few years I'm finding warranty to be worthless. Though Microsoft should be ashamed that PS4 allows for hard drive upgrades while their machine requires a computer science degree and voiding of warranty.
But yea warranty is pretty stupid. Most companies offer only a 1 year warranty which I think is criminal. Products either work straight from the start or don't, and only fail afterwards between 4-5 years of use. At which point the RROD was caused by cheap shit solder that they don't even sell at RadioShack.
What I would like to know is if the drive is only used for storage or is the OS stored on the drive. Otherwise replacing it would render it a brick.
I already see a terrible design flaw. The fan grill is internal. Over time that grill is going to get a blanket of dust over it.
I already see a terrible design flaw. The fan grill is internal. Over time that grill is going to get a blanket of dust over it.
Bit for bit cloning FTW.
Yeah that is what i was thinking just clone the drive shove in w.e you want.Bit for bit cloning FTW.
Fan blows out, not in, so it isn't so bad. The vents into console need to be cleaned more than the fan grill. Canned air works great.
The cooling on the PS4 is far more worrisome when it comes to dust / heat. Same amount of stuff packed into a waaay smaller area.
Both are cool to the touch when operating though (so far).
So Sony brings out one of its head engineers and shows us everything. MS lets a third party do it......
The Xbox One comes with toilet paper?
Or they got tired of dealing with all the people using 3rd party drives in the Xbox 360.My guess is that they figured the HD won't die within the 1 year warranty period.
Am I looking at that right????
It has 3 SATA internal ports?
Nice.
If you think the PS4 is "cool to the touch" after playing it, then your definition of "cool" is way different than mine is.
Didn't the XBox360 check the hard drive's firmware to make sure it was a Western Digital drive of a certain type before it would let you use it?
There is a teardown of the Xbox One posted at iFixit today. Look at all the room inside that thing! I need to get cracking on an internal watercooling setup.
PS4 put chips on both sides of the motherboard xbox1 is all on one side, not sure if it's a cooling consideration or a manufacturing cost consideration or what have you but that's where quite a bit of the space length is coming from. The height comes from ps4 uses a slim bluray drive meaning they can remove height but it also means that they squish their cooling down to accommodate for that. Microsoft because they used a standard blu-ray drive has height that they can't remove so they can beef up the cooling and other things, they probably could a fit a power supply in there but it seems like Microsoft was avoiding using too heavily custom designed parts.Amazing how very little space is wasted.
I kind of assumed that Xbone had more empty space inside, considering that it's significantly larger than PS4 while being outfitted with a similar hardware.
Did MS decide to use a bigger (but functionally equivalent) components?
Ionno i was wondering how important that bracket is; maybe i can shave notches in and shove a 3.5" in there at an angle.Is the non-standard SATA internal connector a violation of the SATA license?
Is it a dick move?
Haha, we posted the same thing within 2 minutes of each other.
But, like I said in the Console Gaming forum: The hard drive is not proprietary.
Unfortunately, Microsoft does not offer an easy way to replace it without voiding the warranty and going past two components of the console and several Torx screws.
Prohibition on conditions for written or implied warranty; waiver by Commission
No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this subsection may be waived by the Commission if
(1) the warrantor satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function properly only if the article or service so identified is used in connection with the warranted product, and
(2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public interest.
The Commission shall identify in the Federal Register, and permit public comment on, all applications for waiver of the prohibition of this subsection, and shall publish in the Federal Register its disposition of any such application, including the reasons therefor.
So Sony brings out one of its head engineers and shows us everything. MS lets a third party do it......
Amazing how very little space is wasted.
I kind of assumed that Xbone had more empty space inside, considering that it's significantly larger than PS4 while being outfitted with a similar hardware.
Did MS decide to use a bigger (but functionally equivalent) components?
Wrong.
15 USC § 2302 (c)
So, in simple English: Microsoft's warranty means bub-kiss to me and I can replace the hard drive without violating the warranty if going by the US code, Title 15, Section 2302.
... which means, Microsoft is actually violating the law! Hahaha!
So, in simple English: Microsoft's warranty means bub-kiss to me and I can replace the hard drive without violating the warranty if going by the US code, Title 15, Section 2302.
... which means, Microsoft is actually violating the law! Hahaha!