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It'll be 2022 before we can even get Zen 3 purchased from shops.If anybody can wait 'til 2022... go ahead.
5600X and 5800X are super easy to get right now, and have been for months. I was passing on them usually once or twice per week in my quest to get a 5950, which I ended up getting in Dec.It'll be 2022 before we can even get Zen 3 purchased from shops.
I've given up on upgrading my Haswell to a Zen 3 platform, I'll probably use the budget on an OLED + next gen console, and then look at Zen 4 if it even reaches shops during 2022.
Both of them are bad choices for a long term platform I'm planning.5600X and 5800X are super easy to get right now, and have been for months. I was passing on them usually once or twice per week in my quest to get a 5950, which I ended up getting in Dec.
the real challenge is getting a 3080 - even tried camping out at microcenter a couple times and got squat there.
If you’re really going long term on the build, the 3090 isn’t all that hard to get. I’ve passed on them multiple times as well. I’ve seen quite a few 5950s roll through at microcenter, and have seen people getting their 5950 B&H pre orders as well. A 5950 with 3090 could probably be put together in a week of shopping, maybe less.Both of them are bad choices for a long term platform I'm planning.
And since I'm doing the whole setup, I'll also need that nice GPU to go with it, not a 3060 or something. Which would be remotely possible after we go past H1 2021, but then it's too late. And still going to be above MSRP.
They still haven't delivered all the 3080s that were ordered in september in my country. One I know got his frist card in october and the second late december. I got mine early december. He ordered within 5 minutes, I ordered within 30 minutes. Another guy I know ordered 4 days after launch and will probably get his card around easter. They closed for orderes late september and still haven't opened up for new ones for the 3080. The 3090 has been in stock several times though, but it is just too expensive IMO. I do think there is a decent amount of cards being shipped though cause the site of the largest etailer was having major issues with their site due to lots of people ordering. Problem is most likely miners and that a lot of people were sitting on 4 year old cards due to 2000 series being underwhelming in the price/performance ratio for owners of 1070 and higher.5600X and 5800X are super easy to get right now, and have been for months. I was passing on them usually once or twice per week in my quest to get a 5950, which I ended up getting in Dec.
the real challenge is getting a 3080 - even tried camping out at microcenter a couple times and got squat there.
There should be a Zen3 refresh before we move in to AM5.
A Zen 3 Refresh on AM5 would require a new IO die, but could potentially work with Zen3 dies, so that may work.The Zen 3 refresh is supposed to be on AM5, as a way of testing a fairly known chip on an unknown platform ( that's what I heard anyway ).
Yeah, the only requisite would be that the io die would need to be compatible with both cores, but since it's a refresh anyway, they could modify the core slightly to ease compatibility.A Zen 3 Refresh on AM5 would require a new IO die, but could potentially work with Zen3 dies, so that may work.
I'm still stuck in the mindset that new memory controller requires a new tapeout, but in reality with chiplets, AMD can pump out a new IO die and leave the existing compute elements.
Well the Zen 2 and Zen 3 compute cores paired with the same IO die, so there must be some sort of magic that AMD is doing to make the IO Dies and Compute cores agnostic to eachother.Yeah, the only requisite would be that the io die would need to be compatible with both cores, but since it's a refresh anyway, they could modify the core slightly to ease compatibility.
Maybe a part but storage can be faster with actual CPU. Check the Optane.I believe the CPU has long been a bottleneck for storage performance as well. I'd be curious if better IPC equates to fastest game load times etc...