YouTube Tags Conspiracy Theory Videos With Fact-Check Links to Halt Misinformation

[Rob94hawk]

Wait, you mean we didn't land people on the Sun?

 

[haste.]

You also said it was more common on the right.

Note: Censorship will not silence any theory. Censorship will only make people ask why you don’t want things heard. Your calls for censorship are self defeating because bad ideas need to be challenged, not ignored.

I liked your comment because it's true. But this is about conspiracy theory extremism. There are far too many that are so delusional they cannot have civil discourse anymore or decipher fantasy from reality. On both sides, and I stand by my previous comment regarding the right. Either way the extremism is getting pathetic.

 

[haste.]

I'm not the one who claimed working in marketing made me a phd in clinical psychology.

edit: check that, no phd in clinical psychology would claim to be able to build a profile on someone based on a few forum posts....

And yet looking through a few of your previous posts I hit the nail on the head. We generally use AI to do this these days but it's pretty easy after working with it for quite a while. I don't have a phd, never claimed too, and never claimed to be relating to psychoanalysis at all (re: I was referencing a marketing profile), but you literally did exactly what I said you would do in my 3 minute analysis with this attack. It's kinda funny. Carry on.

 

[haste.]

Only for a communist.

Americana is "Sir, I may disagree vehemently with what you say, but I will just as vehemently defend your 1st amendment right to say it."

Did you read his post? I was just responding in the same nature. I guess I'm a communist socialist pig??

 

[Decibel]

http://www.wvculture.org/history/statehood/ordinanceofsecession.html

Virginia says it was about federal vs states rights.

On topic: How much longer til Youtube just starts cherry picking channels and paying them personally and all other content is deleted?

Wait, hold the fuck up - you literally read VA's ordinance of secession that specifically mentions oppression of slave holding states and you don't think the war was about slavery?

What about SC, the first state to secede, specifically using derivatives of the word slave eighteen times in their declaration of secession? What's your opinion of MS, the second to secede, saying exactly this, "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery..."

How do you have any question at all that the war was about maintaining slavery?

Or hell, have you ever read any of the Cornerstone Speech, given well before VA finalized it's secession and joined the CSA, which specifically lays out that white people are superior, black people should be slaves, and that the CSA and the war was ALL about slavery?

The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.

From http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/cornerstone-speech/

Of course, I don't know why I try. This is a forum that has members that think Amazon's decision to stop selling Nazi flags is a bad thing... but thank god those fudge packers can't buy a cake from good christians.

* * *

We're well off the deep end. Web 2.0 has been an abject failure. While a lot of us have used the access to new knowledge and new people to expand our horizons, others have used it to circle the wagons and find like minded people deep in their own ignorance, and proselytize their brand of bullshit.

"Jet fuel can't melt steel beams." "They're turning the freaking frogs gay." David Iche, Unite the Right, and Zeitgeist.

Fuck.

Good luck Youtube, the cat's out of the bag. The cockroaches will find another corner. Maybe World Star.

 

[STEvil]

Really glad to hear about this. I started noticing a large increase in revisionist history back in the mid nineties. Once the internet began to grow so did this phenomenon in direct proportions. I'm still waiting for the day to see someone watering their crops with Gatorade.

Uhhhh.......... we use a lot of micronutrients, does that count? XD

 

[Lenard]

I liked your comment because it's true. But this is about conspiracy theory extremism. There are far too many that are so delusional they cannot have civil discourse anymore or decipher fantasy from reality. On both sides, and I stand by my previous comment regarding the right. Either way the extremism is getting pathetic.

How does censoring the crazies change any of that? Silencing crazy people does not make crazy people better.

Also, most of the crazies are on the left. I have no study to support that, but “i stand by my comment” regarding the left.

 

[Lenard]

Wait, hold the fuck up - you literally read VA's ordinance of secession that specifically mentions oppression of slave holding states and you don't think the war was about slavery?

What about SC, the first state to secede, specifically using derivatives of the word slave eighteen times in their declaration of secession? What's your opinion of MS, the second to secede, saying exactly this, "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery..."

How do you have any question at all that the war was about maintaining slavery?

Or hell, have you ever read any of the Cornerstone Speech, given well before VA finalized it's secession and joined the CSA, which specifically lays out that white people are superior, black people should be slaves, and that the CSA and the war was ALL about slavery?



From http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/cornerstone-speech/

Of course, I don't know why I try. This is a forum that has members that think Amazon's decision to stop selling Nazi flags is a bad thing... but thank god those fudge packers can't buy a cake from good christians.

* * *

We're well off the deep end. Web 2.0 has been an abject failure. While a lot of us have used the access to new knowledge and new people to expand our horizons, others have used it to circle the wagons and find like minded people deep in their own ignorance, and proselytize their brand of bullshit.

"Jet fuel can't melt steel beams." "They're turning the freaking frogs gay." David Iche, Unite the Right, and Zeitgeist.

Fuck.

Good luck Youtube, the cat's out of the bag. The cockroaches will find another corner. Maybe World Star.

This is a hillarious deranged rant. For best effect read it as if Alex Jones was spewing it.

For the record: Amazon selling Nazi flags was neither good nor bad. Actual Nazis (all 7 of them) still get their flags. People who wanted the flags for cosplay will make their own. It literally changed nothing.

 

[haste.]

How does censoring the crazies change any of that? Silencing crazy people does not make crazy people better.

Also, most of the crazies are on the left. I have no study to support that, but “i stand by my comment” regarding the left.

This is all a result of Alex Jones. Alex Jones was a celebrity spewing pizza parlor child whore houses, consistent statistically inaccurate information, and quite a bit of racism. Color me confused on this reply as well. Believe whatever fantasy you would like; if its Jones world or the crazies who are getting fact checked. I'll choose the reality most of us live in. Extreme paranoia is only a good thing when you ate too much space cake in amsterdam lol. *which by the way leads to far too much weird European nacho cheese doritos and 3am Dutch cartoons that make no sense.

 

[Decibel]

This is a hillarious deranged rant. For best effect read it as if Alex Jones was spewing it.

For the record: Amazon selling Nazi flags was neither good nor bad. Actual Nazis (all 7 of them) still get their flags. People who wanted the flags for cosplay will make their own. It literally changed nothing.

How about you argue a point instead of throwing out ad hominems?

And yeah, that second part was meant to be ranty and tongue in cheek. I'm pretty fucking serious about people who think the Civil War wasn't about slavery sound really uninformed.

And are you saying that Amazon should keep selling Nazi flags? You want one? As we learned in CVille last year, there are more than seven Nazis. As we learned this year, the overt racists are avoiding Kessler like the plague he is. The message about the DC rally this year was don't go, we don't want to look like the bad guys.

My opinion on it is pretty straight forward, just like this one and Youtube - their house, their rules.

But some of the guys around here seem to think that it's the coming of 1984, there's a reason the thread got locked https://hardforum.com/threads/amazon-removes-nazi-themed-goods-from-its-store.1965562/

 

[Lenard]

This is all a result of Alex Jones. Alex Jones was a celebrity spewing pizza parlor child whore houses, consistent statistically inaccurate information, and quite a bit of racism. Color me confused on this reply as well. Believe whatever fantasy you would like; if its Jones world or the crazies who are getting fact checked. I'll choose the reality most of us live in. Extreme paranoia is only a good thing when you ate too much space cake in amsterdam lol. *which by the way leads to far too much weird European nacho cheese doritos and 3am Dutch cartoons that make no sense.

Word Salad

 

[haste.]

Word Salad

Yikes - Nice "come back" tho! Never a response, just a bs comment from the youngsters.

 

[Lenard]

How about you argue a point instead of throwing out ad hominems?

And yeah, that second part was meant to be ranty and tongue in cheek. I'm pretty fucking serious about people who think the Civil War wasn't about slavery sound really uninformed.

And are you saying that Amazon should keep selling Nazi flags? You want one? As we learned in CVille last year, there are more than seven Nazis. As we learned this year, the overt racists are avoiding Kessler like the plague he is. The message about the DC rally this year was don't go, we don't want to look like the bad guys.

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My opinion on it is pretty straight forward, just like this one and Youtube - their house, their rules.

But some of the guys around here seem to think that it's the coming of 1984, there's a reason the thread got locked https://hardforum.com/threads/amazon-removes-nazi-themed-goods-from-its-store.1965562/

Delusional.

You obviously have reading comprehension issues. I don’t give a shit if they sell nazi flags. It doesn’t matter.

Your opinion doesn’t matter either. You are the most irrelevant creature. You have no political power, and you have no persuasive arguments. You bark about fantasy Nazis. You might as well holler about Zombies

 

[Decibel]

Delusional.

You obviously have reading comprehension issues. I don’t give a shit if they sell nazi flags. It doesn’t matter.

Your opinion doesn’t matter either. You are the most irrelevant creature. You have no political power, and you have no persuasive arguments. You bark about fantasy Nazis. You might as well holler about Zombies

You drunk right now?

 

[Lenard]

Yikes - Nice "come back" tho! Never a response, just a bs comment from the youngsters.

Look at your post. It’s horribly punctuated and fails to convey a coherent thought.

This is why i called it “Word Salad”

 

[harbingerofdoom]

Not often we get a Shakespeare reference around here. Nice one!

be patient, for the world is broad and wide.

 

[Meeho]

I'm pretty fucking serious about people who think the Civil War wasn't about slavery sound really uninformed.

That's a matter of interpretation. Is it because of slavery itself or the secession efforts that followed the slavery issue.

And are you saying that Amazon should keep selling Nazi flags? You want one? As we learned in CVille last year, there are more than seven Nazis. As we learned this year, the overt racists are avoiding Kessler like the plague he is. The message about the DC rally this year was don't go, we don't want to look like the bad guys.

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My opinion on it is pretty straight forward, just like this one and Youtube - their house, their rules.

What are your feelings on the bake the cake issue? The same or hypocritical?

But some of the guys around here seem to think that it's the coming of 1984, there's a reason the thread got locked https://hardforum.com/threads/amazon-removes-nazi-themed-goods-from-its-store.1965562/

https://www.amazon.com/Antifascist-Action-Flag-Socialist-ShamrockSuperstore/dp/B07282F6Z4

"As well as stopping items being listed and blocking sellers, Amazon said it was now working to get the items removed from its fulfilment centers. It said it used automated methods as well as teams of investigators to scan listings looking for items that break its policies or national laws covering hate speech, violence or racial intolerance."

I guess they have a problem if it's towards certain groups only.

 

[NKD]

Doesn't matter what you do. People stand for their political side before anything. Its like politics going to put food on their table, love their families and friends and shit. I simply tell people to fuck off when they want to bring politics in to anything. Like this liberal, conservative crap politics has instilled in people to divide them down the line. Like my well educated friend who was going crazy on facebook saying Parkland student David Hogg was an actor and sharing a picture on facebook that was fake and bunch of other people. He got chewed out on facebook by almost everyone. Its unreal how people base their opinion on their political bias. Social media is pretty much a politican weapon now to drive opinions and division. Pretty dang crazy. I am confident mankind will wipe itself off the planet long before it dies.

 

[Laowai]

I'm pretty fucking serious about people who think the Civil War wasn't about slavery sound really uninformed.

I'm fairly sure you don't realize just how uninformed you sound.

Saying the Civil War was about slavery is akin to saying WW1 happened because an archduke was killed.
Sure, you're right, in the broadest sense possible the Civil War was about slavery just as WW1 was about Franz Ferdinand.

I was typing up a pretty massive post of all the different factors that led to (or may have led to) the civil war but this isn't a place for that discussion. I only hope you begin to realize that perhaps you should do some more reading on the topic before you think you know who should be censored.
That's why censorship is so potentially dangerous. Too many people think they know who should be censored and they think they have all the right reasons.

EDIT: To bring this more on-topic...I don't care who YouTube or Twitter or Bookface censor. They are private entities and can limit access to their services for whatever dumbass reasons they choose to. All it does is open up opportunities for competitors to snag their customers who dislike their actions. Go! Go! Capitalism!
EDIT Part Deux: My only concern about YouTube putting their own links in to stop disinformation as they put it, is that they will likely be guilty of what they misguidedly hope to put an end to. Either way....Go! Go! Capitalism!

 

[Meeho]

I'm fairly sure you don't realize just how uninformed you sound.

Saying the Civil War was about slavery is akin to saying WW1 happened because an archduke was killed.
Sure, you're right, in the broadest sense possible the Civil War was about slavery just as WW1 was about Franz Ferdinand.

I was typing up a pretty massive post of all the different factors that led to (or may have led to) the civil war but this isn't a place for that discussion. I only hope you begin to realize that perhaps you should do some more reading on the topic before you think you know who should be censored.
That's why censorship is so potentially dangerous. Too many people think they know who should be censored and they think they have all the right reasons.

EDIT: To bring this more on-topic...I don't care who YouTube or Twitter or Bookface censor. They are private entities and can limit access to their services for whatever dumbass reasons they choose to. All it does is open up opportunities for competitors to snag their customers who dislike their actions. Go! Go! Capitalism!

You mean it wasn't about the good guys vs bad guys?!

 

[DukenukemX]

Here is video of the offense:
It is clear he is telling people to be prepared when the “commie red teams come”. Maybe you shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet. Maybe you should be a skeptic.

Your problem is you believe everything you Google. That makes you easily misled and exactly why big tech shutting down speech is so dangerous.

#cancelwhitepeople

There are people who deserve this far more. I don't like Alex Jones beyond his ability to make memes of himself but he's not the worst offender I've seen.

 

[Factum]

Not being from the US, I spotted a clear trend in the repsonse in this thread:

Those who have an agenda and is likely to peddle conspiracy crap...are whining in this thread.

Ever wonder why "Fake news" is such a US problem, while the rest of the world doesn't suffer from this...you make me laugh and cry atthe same time

 

[Factum]

*Laughs*

We laugh too, Fox News just tried to "Fake News" Denmark...kinda backfired

 

[jardows]

Youtube, Twitter, etc., are private entities like ABC, CBS, NBC. Yet people have no problem with the regulation of those broadcast networks in what they can and cannot say? But say that the Internet information platforms can ban whatever they want? Let's think this through on a moral basis, not on a strictly legal basis.

 

[Factum]

Youtube, Twitter, etc., are private entities like ABC, CBS, NBC. Yet people have no problem with the regulation of those broadcast networks in what they can and cannot say? But say that the Internet information platforms can ban whatever they want? Let's think this through on a moral basis, not on a strictly legal basis.

Censurship of media is a mostly US thing. In Denmark we don't censur "bad words" or "nudity" unlike in the US. You will get into problems if you do hate-speech or encourge to violence but that is just common logic to me.
Free speech means that Fox News can broadcast lies all they want to, but they have to live with being called out on their lies and forced to backtrack.
Butyou cannot fix stupid and a lot of stupid people don't care about facts.

 

[Factum]

No one gives a shit about your Fox News hate because no one cares or watches Fox News except old retired white people and "Libertarians".

Almost all News is bullshit. Some of it comes from the right, and some of it comes from the left. All news must be viewed with skepticism because they all have an agenda. You should watch what they report thinking "That is an interesting story. I wonder if it is true. I wonder what they left out." If you do not you will be easily manipulated and sound like an asshat.


Also, America Rulz! Denmark is Lame! Go Teen titans!

You cared enough to post.
And the "Fake news" is not just a Fox News problem it is a US problem.
That is also why your "politicians" get into problems with the media in Europe, because if you try and skip over a "inconvenient" question and move on...the question will just be re-asked by the next reporter:


"Fake News" is something you will have a hard time exporting

 

[Laowai]

We laugh too, Fox News just tried to "Fake News" Denmark...kinda backfired

So that video was supposed to prove that 'fake news' only occurs in the US? If so, you missed the mark.
"Fake news" exists everywhere I can think of. If somebody thinks they live in a place where there isn't any 'fake news', it is more than likely that they are simply not bright enough to spot it.

 

[Factum]

So that video was supposed to prove that 'fake news' only occurs in the US? If so, you missed the mark.
"Fake news" exists everywhere I can think of. If somebody thinks they live in a place where there isn't any 'fake news', it is more than likely that they are simply not bright enough to spot it.

"Fake News" get called out in eg. Europe...a channel like "Fox News" would not survive here, the rest of the press would call them out and the population mock them.
You should try looking outside the horrible media picture that currently resides in the US.

 

[Factum]

Newsflash: European media is not relevant in the US. No one gives a shit what the European Media thinks about anything. Europe is almost as irrelevant to American democracy as the Peoples Republic of California.

You can get angry all you want, doesn't alter that "Fake news" is a US problem and we don't want that crap here

 

[M76]

Nice try, shallow thinker. First, why do we need a self appointed authority to determine what is, and what isn't credible? You've made it quite clear it's not for YOUR benefit, since you're able to determine facts for yourself, so you feel the need for information control for what, exactly? To ensure all those around you are only exposed to 'accurate' information? To be blunt, you think, no, you KNOW you're superior to those around you, and those who are inferior to you must have the information they are exposed to controlled by the Ministry of Truth. You seem to have no idea what kind of horrific world you're helping to unleash by normalizing institutional informational control.

By educating others you help humanity and in turn yourself, this is not some selfless act of superioroty. And many people belive objectively and demonstrably stupid shit. It's in everyone's best interest to cure them. This is not information control, this is offering verified facts to counter the bs. That "institutions" like prageru puts out.

Makes up slanderous statistic about Americans, while arguing that censorship is necessary to combat deceptive information. (though again, the censorship isn't needed for him, it's to prevent those inferior to him being influenced by the 'wrong' ideas).

It is actually a very optimisic number, I doubt more than 50% can relaibly tell apart made up conspiracy theories from reality.
Censoring is not necessary, it is counter productive, offering easily accessible information however is necessary for people who are driven by ideology, who want to believe professional nutjobs.

 

[Factum]

I'm not angry. You are reading minds again (poorly).

Then you have a disconnect between your brain and the words you type.
None the less you strike me as the type who would be angry over fact-checking.
But then again if you have a problem with facts it is you having a problem not the facts

 

[Laowai]

"Fake News" get called out in eg. Europe...a channel like "Fox News" would not survive here, the rest of the press would call them out and the population mock them.
You should try looking outside the horrible media picture that currently resides in the US.

Yeah...that's exactly what does happen. When ridiculous stuff appears in the mainstream news (or elsewhere), it generally does get mocked. So I am really not sure what you're going on about.
Also, I don't live in the US.

Either way, your position that 'fake news' is only a US thing is just wrong.

 

[Meeho]

Censurship of media is a mostly US thing. In Denmark we don't censur "bad words" or "nudity" unlike in the US. You will get into problems if you do hate-speech

In Denmark you don't censor "bad words" but you do censor "bad words" and get in trouble for them. Got it.

 

[Factum]

In Denmark you don't censor "bad words" but you do censor "bad words" and get in trouble for them. Got it.

Try being more obtuse...I dare you!

You can say eg. "FUCK you are UGLY!".
But you cannot say "FUCK you are UGLY and someone should hurt you!"

It's not rocket science.

 

[Factum]

Yeah...that's exactly what does happen. When ridiculous stuff appears in the mainstream news (or elsewhere), it generally does get mocked. So I am really not sure what you're going on about.
Also, I don't live in the US.

Either way, your position that 'fake news' is only a US thing is just wrong.

Citation needed...

 

[Meeho]

Try being more obtuse...I dare you!

You can say eg. "FUCK you are UGLY!".
But you cannot say "FUCK you are UGLY and someone should hurt you!"

It's not rocket science.

Aparrently it is to you, since you again contradicted yourself by saying bad words aren't censored. They are, you just find some bad words bad enough and others not, whatever suits you. Also, there is a difference between hate speech and a call for violence.

"The ideology of Islam is as loathsome, disgusting, oppressive and as misanthropic as Nazism. The massive immigration of Islamists into Denmark is the most devastating thing to happen to Danish society in recent history."

The above is punishable in Denmark. Such a free country compared to the censoring USA. LMAO

 

[NKD]

David Hogg has armed guards who escort him on his ‘tour bus’, while he wanders the country lecturing us about how we should lose our gun rights. He is supported by activists who want to restrict those rights. Of course people dislike that twig boy. It’s not just a partisan dislike. Of course it’s political. David Hogg is political. He is trying to advance a political agenda that others disagree with. In the realm of politics your credibility is attacked.

LoL This wasn’t about gun rights. And I am not going to have conversations about guns. Clearly you made this about gun rights. My point was people not checking their facts. Like he disagrees with you so it justifies you making up bullshit like he never went to parkland?

Whatever you said had nothing to do with my post. You clearly missed everything else in it. Actually you Proved my post how ready people are on the internet making everything about politics and going to fight over it. You did exactly that, made it about politics and gun rights and forgot my post was about one instance where misinformation was being spread.

 

[Meeho]

Doesn't matter what you do. People stand for their political side before anything. Its like politics going to put food on their table, love their families and friends and shit. I simply tell people to fuck off when they want to bring politics in to anything. Like this liberal, conservative crap politics has instilled in people to divide them down the line. Like my well educated friend who was going crazy on facebook saying Parkland student David Hogg was an actor and sharing a picture on facebook that was fake and bunch of other people. He got chewed out on facebook by almost everyone. Its unreal how people base their opinion on their political bias. Social media is pretty much a politican weapon now to drive opinions and division. Pretty dang crazy. I am confident mankind will wipe itself off the planet long before it dies.

TBH, that kid and his talking points were so fake it was easy to mistake him for an actor

 

[Laowai]

Citation needed...

You made the initial claim that 'fake news' only exists in the US. How about you go fetch a citation for that before you start requesting citations from others.
You said....Ever wonder why "Fake news" is such a US problem, while the rest of the world doesn't suffer from this..

 

[Factum]

Aparrently it is to you, since you again contradicted yourself by saying bad words aren't censored. They are, you just find some bad words bad enough and others not, whatever suits you. Also, there is a difference between hate speech and a call for violence.

"The ideology of Islam is as loathsome, disgusting, oppressive and as misanthropic as Nazism. The massive immigration of Islamists into Denmark is the most devastating thing to happen to Danish society in recent history."

The above is punishable in Denmark. Such a free country compared to the censoring USA. LMAO

If you don't understand the difference between "bad words" and the inciting to violence it says a lot about you.
And you can actually say what you posted in Denmark....nice fail