XFX XXX 650W/PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610

Quote from that review:

"When we opened this power supply and saw that the printed circuit board was from PC Power & Cooling Silencer EPS12V series, we thought that this unit could be a relabeled Silencer 610 with a modular cabling system added, but our suspicion didn’t hold true: this 650 W unit uses rectifiers with greater current limits on the secondary, plus more powerful transistors on the active PFC circuit."
 
Hansen said:
Quote from that review:

"When we opened this power supply and saw that the printed circuit board was from PC Power & Cooling Silencer EPS12V series, we thought that this unit could be a relabeled Silencer 610 with a modular cabling system added, but our suspicion didn’t hold true: this 650 W unit uses rectifiers with greater current limits on the secondary, plus more powerful transistors on the active PFC circuit."
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Um...yeah because it is a Seasonic model, not a PC Power and Cooling because PC Power and COoling does not build or design power uspplies. Seasonic swapped the components for it to be a 650W unit instead of a 610W.....
 
Ofcourse I am kidding.

I am not sure what I was thinking when I said that they are different. They look completely alike, and not to mention other stuff. Was it the "Efficiency > 85% versus 83%"? Or "52A versus 48A". Or maybe "135mm fan versus 80mm fan". Or perhaps"modular versus non-modular". Or "Temp 50c versus 40c".

The same circuit print, yes.

"These transistors are more powerful than the ones used on Silencer 610 EPS12V from PC Power & Cooling (20.7 A, 13.1 A and 62.1 A, respectively)."

"this 650 W unit uses rectifiers with greater current limits on the secondary, plus more powerful transistors on the active PFC circuit."

But okay, when you, Paul Johnson, a specialist, says that they are completely alike, apart from the housing, then I must believe you. I just see see many different numbers and different hardware used, but I guess the numbers could have derived from tweaking the same system that Silencer 610 uses?

I am by no means knowledgeable on PSUs. I havn't even looked inside one yet.
 
The Silencer 610 is an off the shelf Seasonic unit as is the XFX. They are the same design and same topology. The transistors are swapped by Seasonic but are part of the product line they engineered based on this design/topology. The housing is cosmetic....lipstick on a pig.

So yes they are the same design and same base model....not a model engineered by anyone other than Seasonic.
 
All I am trying to say is that they are somewhat different. Because, when you said:

"The housing is the only actual difference."

I do not believe that if I buy a Silencer 610 and a XFX 650w I get the exact same thing(looks excluded).
 
This PSU is using the same PCB as probably at least a dozen other PSUs based on the same platform and sold under the names of various brands. It doesn't matter if it says PCP&C or "Super Duper Awesome PSU Co." on the PCB; it's still the same bloody platform.
 
Oh yes, sure, I do agree that they are the same base model, but that does not mean that these two PSUs are the same.
 
Hansen said:
All I am trying to say is that they are somewhat different. Because, when you said:

"The housing is the only actual difference."

I do not believe that if I buy a Silencer 610 and a XFX 650w I get the exact same thing(looks excluded).
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Believe as you wish, but that doesn't change that the facts that they are the same exact design and topology and the only actual difference is the housing.
 
I am confused. XFX has different transistors, but that does not make the product different from Silencer 610? Are the transistors a part of what you call "housing" ?
 
Thank you Zero82z. I agree that the differences are minor. All I wanted to hear was that they are not exactly the same :)
 
Well you could have read the 4th post in this thread then.......
 
Oh I did. And I totally agreed with you on that post. After reading that post I just wanted to add that there were other differences, and yes, I meant the housing, as that(as far as I know) is still a part of the PSU, and also important to some people. Different fan, different looks, modular cables etc. I was just a little confused why you said that these insides of these PSUs were completely! the same, when just a few posts before you had said: "Seasonic swapped the components for it to be a 650W unit instead of a 610W"
 
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