X99 on mITX: ASRock X99E-itx/ac

majic12 said:
This was most probably said,but if i put those 2x32gb cucial in the x99e-itx/ac pared with let say a e5-2690 v4 and a high end gpu shoud i be expecting some bottlenecking or decreased performance thanks to the dual channel memory?+2 ssd (its a workstation).
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There are probably some tasks out there that can completely saturate the 18-20G/s bandwidth you'll get with DDR4 2133 dual channel, but nothing I can think of outside of synthetic memory benchmarks. Generally speaking, the CPU (and if you're running large datasets off the hard drive, the SSD) is going to be the bottleneck. Gaming is certainly not going to be an issue.

I plan to run mine in a SFF workstation with a 2683 v4.
 
On the topic of X99 builds with the Noctua C14...This cooler is amazing!

Temps are around high 50s to low 60s under synthetic loads with a 120W E5 V3 chip. With real tasks I don't think that it'll ever break 55.


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yyv_146 said:
On the topic of X99 builds with the Noctua C14...This cooler is amazing!

Temps are around high 50s to low 60s under synthetic loads with a 120W E5 V3 chip. With real tasks I don't think that it'll ever break 55.


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... and yet my 4790K (TDP = 88W) ramps up to 100 C the moment I start Prime95 's "Small FFT" torture test. Apparently, this was a known issue with is processor when it first came out. Something about motherboards using power settings that are too high and the terrible thermal compound under the heatspreader. Sigh.

BTW, great looking build.
 
Qrash said:
... and yet my 4790K (TDP = 88W) ramps up to 100 C the moment I start Prime95 's "Small FFT" torture test. Apparently, this was a known issue with is processor when it first came out. Something about motherboards using power settings that are too high and the terrible thermal compound under the heatspreader. Sigh.

BTW, great looking build.
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Ouch. Don't all recent intel chips have a hard throttle past 95 C or something?

Thanks! I really wish Ncase had a side panel with a vented window...
 
Has anyone else noticed that audio from the front panel connection is much louder than from the I/O line-in? I thought it was supposed to be the same, but there is definitely a difference in volume, and possibly in quality/composition of the sound. I know the motherboard is supposed to have a headphone amp, and I am using Sennheisers that can benefit form it, and I think I am getting amplification from the front audio, but not from the I/O. Is the amp on the front panel only? Anyone have information on this?
 
QuantumBraced said:
Has anyone else noticed that audio from the front panel connection is much louder than from the I/O line-in? I thought it was supposed to be the same, but there is definitely a difference in volume, and possibly in quality/composition of the sound. I know the motherboard is supposed to have a headphone amp, and I am using Sennheisers that can benefit form it, and I think I am getting amplification from the front audio, but not from the I/O. Is the amp on the front panel only? Anyone have information on this?
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I don't have this motherboard, but I am interested in it.

On the website for this motherboard, if you scroll down on the Overview page you will see the following paragraph:

TI® NE5532 delivers high definition audio to every headphone. Being the first one to add a headphone amplifier to the rear I/O line-out jack, this motherboard not only improves soundstage depth, but also enhances low frequency (20Hz) bass effects up to 10 times.
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So the amplifier is applied to the rear ports, which is contrary to your observation. Could it be that the settings for the rear ports are not set correctly or the amplification is not turned up enough?
 
Qrash said:
I don't have this motherboard, but I am interested in it.

On the website for this motherboard, if you scroll down on the Overview page you will see the following paragraph:

TI® NE5532 delivers high definition audio to every headphone. Being the first one to add a headphone amplifier to the rear I/O line-out jack, this motherboard not only improves soundstage depth, but also enhances low frequency (20Hz) bass effects up to 10 times.
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So the amplifier is applied to the rear ports, which is contrary to your observation. Could it be that the settings for the rear ports are not set correctly or the amplification is not turned up enough?
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Thanks. Well, I have the latest drivers from the ASRock App, and I also have the Realtek HD Audio Manager app (which is awful), and I don't see a setting anywhere to turn things up anymore than the regular Windows volume control will allow me. The rear line-in is definitely not as loud, in fact it's less loud than my MacBook Pro, and I don't think the lattert comes with amplification. It's borderline not loud enough to properly rock out, which is why I use the front. The front also sounds properly amplified, not just louder. The bass is deeper, the sound is crisper at the higher volume, it sounds like amplification. I have the Sennheier 558 headset, which doesn't benefit a ton from amp, but you can tell a difference. Maybe I am wrong though... I'd definitely appreciate input from others. I'm probably doing something wrong.
 
Has anyone had any issues getting this motherboard to post with 3 beeps (suggests ram issue)? I just put together the below machine. I tried swapping out the 2x16gb sticks for a single 4gb Adata stick and still get three beeps. I'm about to RMA, but I thought I would check here and see if anyone had any ideas.

CPU: 6850k
Memory: G.Skill DDR4-3200 2x16gb (tried swapping with a single 4gb A data)
Graphics Card: 1080 GTX FE
HD: M.2 SM961 1TB
 
the 4gb stick would normally be fine - has it ever had a bios update?

On a different note, does anyone know which USB ports provide the most power for charging my phone?

Nox
 
Nox said:
the 4gb stick would normally be fine - has it ever had a bios update?

On a different note, does anyone know which USB ports provide the most power for charging my phone?

Nox
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I use the back 3.0s for charging my peripherals.

After a mobo swap I got the machine to work, but memtest caught an error on one of the two 16gb sticks. I bumped the voltage to 1.38 from 1.35 on the DRAM, so far so good. Anyone had stability issues with faster memory on stock XMP? I recognize 3200 at 14 CAS may be asking too much from such dense sticks on this board.

Full Specs of the memory are: G.Skill f4-3200c14d-32gtz 14-14-14-34-2N
 
OK, dumb question - for those of you who did the Noctua C14S build in the Ncase M1 - how did you fit the fan? Mine extends out the side of the chassis by like 3-4 mm?
 
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caycep said:
OK, dumb question - for those of you who did the Noctua C14S build in the Ncase M1 - how did you fit the fan? Mine extends out the side of the chassis by like 3-4 mm?
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Most people used the older NH-C14, not the NH-C14S. The C14S is taller so a standard 25 mm thick fan can't be mounted on top of it and fit inside the M1, unlike the now discontinued C14. You will need a slim fan if you want to mount one on top of the C14S or just a fan on the underside. Some NH-C14 are still available, but supply is running out and prices are rising.
 
caycep said:
OK, dumb question - for those of you who did the Noctua C14S build in the Ncase M1 - how did you fit the fan? Mine extends out the side of the chassis by like 3-4 mm?
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We used the C14 which doesn't have the problem. On the C14S you can only fit a slim fan on the top.
 
QuantumBraced said:
Thanks. Well, I have the latest drivers from the ASRock App, and I also have the Realtek HD Audio Manager app (which is awful), and I don't see a setting anywhere to turn things up anymore than the regular Windows volume control will allow me. The rear line-in is definitely not as loud, in fact it's less loud than my MacBook Pro, and I don't think the lattert comes with amplification. It's borderline not loud enough to properly rock out, which is why I use the front. The front also sounds properly amplified, not just louder. The bass is deeper, the sound is crisper at the higher volume, it sounds like amplification. I have the Sennheier 558 headset, which doesn't benefit a ton from amp, but you can tell a difference. Maybe I am wrong though... I'd definitely appreciate input from others. I'm probably doing something wrong.
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When I insert my headphones into a connector with amplification (on my board specifically the front port through header) it brings up a dialog box asking me what type of output device it is. If I choose "headphones", it will do an impedance check (and pop loudly). So if you don't have this kind of behavior on the back when you plug in the headphones when Windows is at your desktop screen (not during boot or before login), you might have to reinstall the Realtek drivers from ASRock, look for an update on the ASRock website.

I hate the drivers too but otherwise no headphone amp functionality.
 
OK, at any rate, muddle through piecing this together damn thing does boot. There is a minor amount of board flex at the back so the ports in the middle are like ~ 1 mm above the backplate slots (this is usually the bane of my existence during builds...if only they could design a better backplate).

RE: the C14S, seems like the prolimatech vortex may be the best bet, will see if that fits...ugh....


Muddling through the BIOS settings....I have no idea what half of these things do. Any any rate, from what I can tell, I have done the following (if any of these are show stoppers or obviously wrong, let me know...

(BIOS 3.60, plan to run Win 7 -> Win 10 upgrade on Xeon e5-1650 v4, only virtualization is maybe virtualbox or VMWare Workstation)

CPU config:

-Enable:
Intel Virtualization Technology
C3 state support (all other C states were enabled...not sure re C3?)

-Keep disabled:
Intel Safer Mode Extensions (AFAIK used for some sort of hypervisor thing, I assume virtualbox doesn't need it)


Chipset config:

Enable:
-Intel VT-d (not sure if Vbox requires this but meh)
-Above 4G (have no idea, but googling around, will prob try it)
-with patch (sure, why not)
-PCIE1 Link Speed: set to Gen3

Kept Disabled:
-SRIOV - AFAIK it has something to do with enabling PCI devices on hypervisors
-PCI-E ASPM - is this important? was disabled by default so I kept it that way

-Deep Sleep - Asrock, usually uncommunicative bastards, saw fit to "recommend" keeping it disabled, so...sure.


Advanced Storage
-didn't see anything crazy so I left as is (only thing disabled was ultra/M.2 aggressive link power management - is this useful at all?)


USB - so far I left USB 2.0 Legacy support on.


CSM - in Windows 10, once that's installed, I can turn it off?
 
Phuncz said:
When I insert my headphones into a connector with amplification (on my board specifically the front port through header) it brings up a dialog box asking me what type of output device it is. If I choose "headphones", it will do an impedance check (and pop loudly). So if you don't have this kind of behavior on the back when you plug in the headphones when Windows is at your desktop screen (not during boot or before login), you might have to reinstall the Realtek drivers from ASRock, look for an update on the ASRock website.

I hate the drivers too but otherwise no headphone amp functionality.
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What motherboard are you using? I've installed the latest Realtek drivers from here. And I am using the Realtek app. When I plug my headphones into any jack, it notifies me it's been plugged in and the respective jack lights up in the app. It doesn't ask me what device it is, it doesn't do an impedance check, nothing. There is no setting or mention of amplification anywhere. I think these are just the generic Realtek drivers/app and the amp in this motherboard is a separate chip that I can't find any way to interact with. One interesting thing is, in the app it tells me what all the jacks are supposed to be for, and for the back line out (green) it says "speakers out" and the pictures and settings all pertain to speakers. For the front jack, it says "Headphone", although when I plug it in, it says "Headphone (speakers)" and then the settings are all for speakers again. It really wants everything to be speakers. But the front is definitely louder, and again, not just louder but it sounds properly amplified. Though it could just be the normal volume, and the rear line-out is quieter because it's not being amplified at all. According to ASRock's site, the rear is supposed to be amplified, not the front. Anyone else want to comment?? It's a pretty major feature of this board.
 
WARNING - CROSS POST INBOUND…

Alright, thoughts towards the following build in a finalized Hutzy XS (w/ 'custom' FSP 500w 80+ Platinum Flex-ATX PSU)…

ASRock X99E-ITX/ac MB
Intel i7-5820K Haswell-E 6-core 3.3GHz CPU
Dynatron T318 copper / vapor chamber CPU cooler (27mm height)
Cryorig XT140 140mm slim PWM fan (13mm height)
G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB DIMMs) SDRAM DDR4 2133 CAS 15
Intel 600p 512GB M.2 / PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 mITX OC GPU

Maximum power draw (according to PCPartsPicker) would be about 364 watts…

For those unaware, the Hutzy XS is a boutique chassis being created by a fellow forum member, Hahutzy…

It is a sub 4 liter mITX chassis that relies entirely on the CPU & GPU fans to cool, well, everything…

6 cores / 12 threads, 16GB RAM, a 512GB NVMe system drive AND a GTX 1070 in a sub-4 liter package…?!?

Yes, please…!

So, thoughts towards overall chassis temps & such…?

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut TIM to mount the CPU cooler & to replace the stock TIM on the GPU…
 
Phuncz said:
I have an Asus VII Impact, like it says in my signature below my posts.
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Of course. I neglected to look. Well you have the SupremeFX audio and that has its own software and drivers. I can't find any way to interact with the amp on this board. And no one else on the internet seems to have raised this issue. I think I'll contact ASRock.
 
Yeah but it's still just a Realtek ALC 1150 chip and the Realtek drivers alone also works, but not the headphone amplification detection. Or atleast I don't remember it working correctly. I don't use any of the other software, just the modified Realtek driver Asus provides.
 
Boil said:
WARNING - CROSS POST INBOUND…

Alright, thoughts towards the following build in a finalized Hutzy XS (w/ 'custom' FSP 500w 80+ Platinum Flex-ATX PSU)…

ASRock X99E-ITX/ac MB
Intel i7-5820K Haswell-E 6-core 3.3GHz CPU
Dynatron T318 copper / vapor chamber CPU cooler (27mm height)
Cryorig XT140 140mm slim PWM fan (13mm height)
G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB DIMMs) SDRAM DDR4 2133 CAS 15
Intel 600p 512GB M.2 / PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 mITX OC GPU
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That would be cool but I really dont think it would be possible to cool a i7-5820K. I'm struggling to find much information about the Dynatron T318, do you know of any reviews?
 
TriangleDragon said:
That would be cool but I really dont think it would be possible to cool a i7-5820K. I'm struggling to find much information about the Dynatron T318, do you know of any reviews?
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Have not really searched much for any (and the few I have run across were in languages other than English), but if you check the dan-cases.com website, there is a tutorial there on how he crams the X99 ITX MB into the A4-SFX chassis, using the Dynatron T318 as his cooling solution…

I would think the Hutzy XS would be pretty much the same situation, excepting only being able to use a 13mm maximum height fan for cooling…

(which is why I spec out the Cryorig XT140 Slim fan; 140mm fan with a 120mm mounting pattern, 13mm in height;… This, with the 27mm height of the T318, would bring the overall CPU cooling solution to the maximum height allowed with the Hutzy XS chassis, that being 40mm…

Linus (LinusTechTips) also used a X99 mITX MB in the A4-SFX, but he used the server version (way less rear I/O, but 4 SO-DIMM slots) of the motherboard… He also used the Dynatron T318 & an add-on fan for cooling…

So I would say it could be done, just a matter of fan noise when cooling properly…? And as a poster mentioned in another thread, the power requirements may make the 500w FSP Flex-ATX PSU a noise contributor as well, as it may be working harder due to the extra power draw caused by the Haswell-E / Broadwell-E CPU…

It may not be exactly practical, but it would sure be cool…!!!
 
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So I would say it could be done, just a matter of fan noise when cooling properly…?

It may not be exactly practical, but it would sure be cool…!!!
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Oh it absolutely would work. It's just a matter of overclock/noise. The T318 is full copper and rated for 140W. I have my 6800K overclocked to 4.2GHz and it only consumes 125W under full synthetic load. So theoretically it should work, just a matter of how noisy it'll be. But honestly, how often is your CPU under full load? Under normal heavy load, mine never even gets to 100W. And while gaming, it rarely hits 60W. So I see no problem with it noise-wise the vast majority of the time. It would be noisier than a proper cooler for sure, but definitely tolerable. We won't know for sure until some tests are done though. These are really tiny cases, but they have the advantage of feeding fresh air.
 
Ozymandias said:
If I'm not switching to Zen, I'm planning on using a T318 when my Dan A4 shows up. In his testing, Dan found the Noctua A9x14 was the best fan for the Dynatron T318. It's not extensive testing, but without overclocking or maybe a moderate oc at low ambient temps, a 5820K should be fine.
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Bummer that the Dynatron T318 / Noctua NF-A9x14 combo is 1mm too thick for the Hutzy XS…

I guess one could have the fins shaved down by that 1mm, and the grooves for the fan clips cut into the heat sink at the same time…
 
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Phuncz said:
Yeah but it's still just a Realtek ALC 1150 chip and the Realtek drivers alone also works, but not the headphone amplification detection. Or atleast I don't remember it working correctly. I don't use any of the other software, just the modified Realtek driver Asus provides.
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Hmm, well maybe ASUS did a better job customizing the drivers than ASRock. I'm pretty sure the drivers ASRock provides are just the standard Realtek drivers, there is no indication of anything specific to the board in the HD Audio Manager. Here's what I figured out -- the amplification automatically goes to the designated headphone port. And since right now for me that's the front headphone audio (it says so in the HD Audio Manager), that's where I get amplification. I'm 100% sure the sound coming out of the front is amplified, not just louder. I suspect if I unplug the front audio header, the amplification will go to the rear line out (currently designed speaker out, so it's not amplified as it's meant for speakers). I am too lazy to conduct that experiment though as the header is under my graphics card in an NCase M1... I'm not sure if amplification can be software controlled at all on this board. It works for me as I use front audio anyway. So the information on ASRock's site seems to be somewhat wrong -- that the rear line-out is amplified. It should say headphone out, as it is a headphone-only amp.
 
So after upgrading my OS, I've run into a problem with this board: it's failing to boot beyond the splash screen.
I've reset CMOS, pulled out unnecessary drives, tried different OSs or hitting into a live usb but it just sits at a black screen. Any thoughts?

EDIT: turns out it just needed proper clearing of CMOS. Pull off all drives and accessories, then put the jumper across the other pins for a good 30s.
 
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Does anyone know if Noctua has a bracket for the NH-L9x65 cooler to be used with this motherboard?
 
sungho said:
I tried 2x Samsung 64GB DDR4 ECC REG RAM(M393A8G40D40-CRB) on X99E-itx and it works perfectly.

You can achieve 128GB ram on X99E-itx/ac.
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Do you know if it'll be compatible with the samsung 2666 128gb sticks? 1 x 128gb
 
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