X570 Crosshair VIII Dark Hero

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Saw this board teased (not much of an announcement if there are hardly any concrete specs)... but I'm hoping they replace the 2.5GBPS Realtek with the Intel 2.5GBPS on this one.

If so, I may have my eye on this board.

Bonus for the fan haters - no fan.

Not sure what else is new for this board though.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Dark-Hero/
 

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Apart from the passive cooling, I saw this mentioned on the product page "14+2 TI power stages rated for 90A". Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the previous C8H power stages are rated for 60A?
 

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Apart from the passive cooling, I saw this mentioned on the product page "14+2 TI power stages rated for 90A". Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the previous C8H power stages are rated for 60A?

I forget too but it doesn't matter, the whole ROG line was way overbuilt already.
 

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Yeah, saw that this morning. Still Realtek 2.5GB.

Funny that the newly released X570 TUF PRO is getting the Intel 2.5gbps though.
 

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Saw this board teased (not much of an announcement if there are hardly any concrete specs)... but I'm hoping they replace the 2.5GBPS Realtek with the Intel 2.5GBPS on this one.

If so, I may have my eye on this board.

Bonus for the fan haters - no fan.

Not sure what else is new for this board though.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Dark-Hero/

It's an update of the previous Crosshair VIII Hero. It's going to largely be the same board albeit optimized for the Ryzen 5000 series. This is ASUS' SOP for board refreshes. They typically source the same integrated components. The PHY for the NIC won't change in cases like that.

Apart from the passive cooling, I saw this mentioned on the product page "14+2 TI power stages rated for 90A". Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the previous C8H power stages are rated for 60A?

ASUS' uses two power stages per phase. So, it's not 14+2 phase as the marketing sometimes misleads people into thinking. It's simply got 16 power stages. It's likely 6+2 phases with two power stages each. 4 power stages for SoC voltage, the rest for CPU vCore. Everyone else uses a single power stage per phase. So, GIGABYTE's Aorus Xtreme uses 14+2 phases, not 14+2 power stages. Just pointing that out so people understand the comparison. ASUS' voltage designs are vastly different than everyone else's. Sometimes this is good, sometimes its not so great. In this case, they are 90A stages vs. the 60A of the original board. ASUS uses these on its upper end boards. The Maximus XII Extreme for example, utilizes these same 90A power stages.
 

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Ah my bad, was thinking of the non wifi hero street price. Damn these ROG boards are overpriced.

The Maximus XII Extreme is priced right at $750. Even the Crossahir VIII Formula is $563 on Amazon. Damn near $600.
 

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According to an Asus rep on reddit, board will be out either late this week (which is where we are already) or next week. Best place to look is Newegg, according to them. But the usual suspects should have them in stock soon (Amazon, B&H, etc.). Give it a week.
ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/j7nahg/new_asus_rog_x570_motherboard_rog_crosshair_viii/

Looks like a VRM design on par with the ASUS ROG Maximus XII Extreme. That is, a healthy upgrade over the older Crosshair VIII Hero. 16 90A power stages. It's technically an eight phase design, but it's still packing a VRM with incredible power output.
 

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Huh... ECC Memory (ECC mode) support varies by CPU.

Is anyone ready to test this out and see how well it works?
 

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I remember reading that the i225 shipping with Z490s were fixed already?

https://wccftech.com/intel-400-series-chipsets-z490-i225-v-network-controller-issue-fix-2h-2020/

Either which way, this board doesn't have it. Just don't want to have to go through the process of hacking in drivers in the event this board will be repurposed for ESXI. Not sure why they decided to drop realtek support. At least it does have the Intel gigabit port... Some of the Gigabyte / MSI boards have 2 LANs, but both are realtek. No go for my use case.
 
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Any of the people complaining about the 2.5 Realtek actually use it? I have one in my X570 Unify that I’ve had since April and have had 0 issues. Can’t tell the difference between it and the Intel based LAN chips I’ve been using for years prior.

Haven’t seen anyone who has actually used it complain about it. Most of the people complaining about it are people who probably haven’t used a Realtek product in over a decade when they were admittedly trash.
 
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I’ve got an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero in hand that just arrived from Amazon. No Ryzen 5950x yet to drop in it, so I probably have a solid 4-6 weeks before AMD stock replenishes to the point where I can snag one...

Is the difference between the regular Hero and the Dark Hero worth returning the one I have and upgrading? The only real difference I see is 90a VRM delivery vs 60a and a passive chipset cooler vs a fan driven one. Is the fan really that loud? Wouldn’t the fan do a better job cooling the chipset over the passive block? Would the added VRM capacity really make a difference? (I never plan to cool with LN2, just water, but I do plan to overclock.). Really undecided here. Aside from the cosmetic differences, which I really don’t care about, I’m really torn on if I should upgrade to the Dark Hero.
 

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I’ve got an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero in hand that just arrived from Amazon. No Ryzen 5950x yet to drop in it, so I probably have a solid 4-6 weeks before AMD stock replenishes to the point where I can snag one...

Is the difference between the regular Hero and the Dark Hero worth returning the one I have and upgrading? The only real difference I see is 90a VRM delivery vs 60a and a passive chipset cooler vs a fan driven one. Is the fan really that loud? Wouldn’t the fan do a better job cooling the chipset over the passive block? Would the added VRM capacity really make a difference? (I never plan to cool with LN2, just water, but I do plan to overclock.). Really undecided here. Aside from the cosmetic differences, which I really don’t care about, I’m really torn on if I should upgrade to the Dark Hero.

Realistically, unless you are really, really pushing a 16C/32T CPU, you won't notice the difference. Even then, it's unlikely. I never once thought to myself that my CH8 was inadequate for what I wanted it to do on a 360mm AIO with a 3900x. Custom WC build? Maybe? 5000 series isn't that much different than that. If you're going to need more than the old CH8, then you'd probably be looking at one of the other ROG boards (Extreme, etc) over the replacement CH8 Dark anyway. I never noticed the fan personally. I would think you'd probably want at least a little airflow over the passive block.
 

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Realistically, unless you are really, really pushing a 16C/32T CPU, you won't notice the difference. Even then, it's unlikely. I never once thought to myself that my CH8 was inadequate for what I wanted it to do on a 360mm AIO with a 3900x. Custom WC build? Maybe? 5000 series isn't that much different than that. If you're going to need more than the old CH8, then you'd probably be looking at one of the other ROG boards (Extreme, etc) over the replacement CH8 Dark anyway. I never noticed the fan personally. I would think you'd probably want at least a little airflow over the passive block.
I am going back and forth on this, and i think i might just get a normal hero and if the fan bothers me to much ill get a chipset water block and add it to the loop.
 
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I am going back and forth on this, and i think i might just get a normal hero and if the fan bothers me to much ill get a chipset water block and add it to the loop.
Only I don't think anyone makes a chipset block for the Hero yet. At least I haven't seen one, and I've looked. You'd have to ghetto mod something.
I did pick up EK's Quantum Momentum cpu block for the Hero though - which directly covers both the CPU as well as the nearby VRM MOSFETs, but that's all it covers. (And it has also been confirmed to be compatible with both the Hero and the Dark Hero board.)
 
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I’ve got an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero in hand that just arrived from Amazon. No Ryzen 5950x yet to drop in it, so I probably have a solid 4-6 weeks before AMD stock replenishes to the point where I can snag one...

Is the difference between the regular Hero and the Dark Hero worth returning the one I have and upgrading? The only real difference I see is 90a VRM delivery vs 60a and a passive chipset cooler vs a fan driven one. Is the fan really that loud? Wouldn’t the fan do a better job cooling the chipset over the passive block? Would the added VRM capacity really make a difference? (I never plan to cool with LN2, just water, but I do plan to overclock.). Really undecided here. Aside from the cosmetic differences, which I really don’t care about, I’m really torn on if I should upgrade to the Dark Hero.
I just got mine the other day as well, and I am considering getting the Dark just so I don't have to worry about the fan.
 
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I just got mine the other day as well, and I am considering getting the Dark just so I don't have to worry about the fan.
I'm leaning that way as well. I haven't opened the mb box yet and luckily I bought via Amazon, so returns are a snap and the return window is good out till the end of January. I'm also running a large custom loop in my case that happens to have a ton of airflow due to my case config, so the passive chipset cooler on the Dark Hero would be happy with the constant breeze.

I'm now also considering upgrading the Sabrent Rocket Gen4 PCIe M.2 that I just picked up (also via Amazon) to the Sabrent Rocket Plus which is supposed to land any day now...

I'm sort of glad I wasn't able to snag a 5950x on day one... may just end up being able to upgrade a bunch of key components now because of the delay. :D
 

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I'm leaning that way as well. I haven't opened the mb box yet and luckily I bought via Amazon, so returns are a snap and the return window is good out till the end of January. I'm also running a large custom loop in my case that happens to have a ton of airflow due to my case config, so the passive chipset cooler on the Dark Hero would be happy with the constant breeze.

I'm now also considering upgrading the Sabrent Rocket Gen4 PCIe M.2 that I just picked up (also via Amazon) to the Sabrent Rocket Plus which is supposed to land any day now...

I'm sort of glad I wasn't able to snag a 5950x on day one... may just end up being able to upgrade a bunch of key components now because of the delay. :D
I have the Hero VIII and I don't think I've ever heard the chipset fan over all of my other fans. You'd probably have to have the side off the case and stick your head in to hear it.
 

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I have the Hero VIII and I don't think I've ever heard the chipset fan over all of my other fans. You'd probably have to have the side off the case and stick your head in to hear it.

I don't think it even runs most of the time.
 

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I don't think it even runs most of the time.
It doesn't. People over blow the chipset fan. Only time it spins is on boot and can't hear it cause all my other fans ramp up to 100% for a few sec in boot.
 

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It doesn't. People over blow the chipset fan. Only time it spins is on boot and can't hear it cause all my other fans ramp up to 100% for a few sec in boot.

This. The only time I think about the fan is when ppl are making threads about it, otherwise non-existent.
 

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Nothing yet, unfortunately. I see it does show up in pcpartpicker now.
 

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I read on reddit one of the users from Canada was giving a November 19th date for his Synnex order to ship. He did state it was a business order so take that how you want.
 

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Overpriced. Pay like 70 bucks more for no fan!
Did you get a chance to watch the DerBaur video where he goes into the changes in BIOS?

the new setting are definitely worth the extra $70.

It allows you to set your load limit per CCX for Multi-core overclocking yet still retain the ability to boost single threaded using the built in boosting. It's a really great feature and it's the only board which can do that (for now, anyway)

You get the best of the single core overclocks and the best multi-core overclocks as well...
 
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