Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

What's not to love about old trek seasons? It aired for three seasons on nbc from 1966 - 1969 though I guess, not that you may not have seen it until 1974. A little before my time.

I agree, very colorful.
I was born in 1967 and people in my area wasn't very rich, the images would have never been that clear on a tube TV at 240p at best back then, seen a beta player movie once around 1979, kids beside us had a Sony VCR with a corded remote control and that was top of the line back then, we wasn't far off from TV tennis as gaming goes, Atari 2600 was earth breaking tech at the time.
 
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I was born in 1967 and people in my area wasn't very rich, the images would have never been that clear on a tube TV at 240p at best back then, seen a beta player movie once around 1979, kids beside us had a Sony VCR with a corded remote control and that was top of the line back then, we wasn't far off from TV tennis as gaming goes, Atari 2600 was earth breaking tech at the time.

I was born in '77...never forget the feeling of walking into Zayers in 1981-1982ish and seeing Atari 2600 display showcasing pacman...blew our fucking minds!

Second time gaming blew my mind was playing super mario brothers on the NES on my parents living room tv.

Third time gaming blew my mind was getting my first 086, then 286 12mhz, then 386 16mhz PC and playing classic sims like GATO, F-19 Stealth all the sierra kings quest, police quest, space quest, heros quest, and leisure suit larry games.

Fourth time gaming blew my mind was the Sega Genesis with amazing 16 bit graphics and unparalled fun games like original maddens and NHL hockeys.

FIfth time gaming blew my mind was N64 Mario, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Conkers Bad Fur day

Sixth time gaming blew my mind OG xbox Halo, Transworld surf, Maddens, etc

Seventh time gaming blew my mind, back to PC with Battlefield 1942
 
Was born in 1975. Was 18 in 1993. Got my own first pc in 1993 the year Jurassic Park came out. I remember in the movie I saw full motion video of Newman on the dock being displayed on the monitor of the PC. Blew my freaking mind. I knew then I loved technology.

So much has changed but the one thing I hold onto is the memory of how it all felt back then. It really was....magical.

Anyways OLED IS THE SHIZZLE!
 
It has been amazing to see life move so fast in my short amount of time to what we are today, no cell phone was freedom from the NSA programs, they have no power over you without your help.
 
It has been amazing to see life move so fast in my short amount of time to what we are today, no cell phone was freedom from the NSA programs, they have no power over you without your help.
Yea but what about the rectal probes?

Don't worry kill bots and skynet will backfire on us all just like that documentary Kames Cameron produced.
 
Anyone else interested in the XR90? I will always keep a OLED around but still have a soft spot for the HDR impact that only miniLED can provide.
 
I finally saw my first OLED today at Best Buy playing a rolling demo video, and well, I was very underwhelmed. It was a Alienware AW3423DWF and the black levels on it seemed now where near as dark as the blacks on the adjacent monitors, the screen was dull looking, and over all I didn't seen anything that gave me the "wow" factor so many of you are describing. Maybe it was just the way it was set up, but this display certainly didn't seem revolutionary by any means, especially for it's $1300 price tag.
 
I finally saw my first OLED today at Best Buy playing a rolling demo video, and well, I was very underwhelmed. It was a Alienware AW3423DWF and the black levels on it seemed now where near as dark as the blacks on the adjacent monitors, the screen was dull looking, and over all I didn't seen anything that gave me the "wow" factor so many of you are describing. Maybe it was just the way it was set up, but this display certainly didn't seem revolutionary by any means, especially for it's $1300 price tag.
Part of that is the lighting and QD-OLED. QD-OLEDs don't have a polarizer in them, they don't need it. The advantage of that is their viewing angles are insanely wide. Like WOLED is good, but QD-OLED is just another level. Essentially perfect. The downside is that a polarizer helps tone down the reflection of ambient light. So that combined with their very light AG coating means that in bright rooms, their black level isn't as good. Stores are, of course, extremely bright. So they don't put on their best showing there.

Along the "it's a bright room" lines OLEDs don't get as bright as LCDs, particularly if you are talking computer monitors. So the LCDs can be, and often are, cranked up more and particularly in a bright room. All other things being equal, you'll prefer the brighter thing.

Really, they don't compare well on a show-room floor, they need a place with less light to really show off.
 
Part of that is the lighting and QD-OLED. QD-OLEDs don't have a polarizer in them, they don't need it. The advantage of that is their viewing angles are insanely wide. Like WOLED is good, but QD-OLED is just another level. Essentially perfect. The downside is that a polarizer helps tone down the reflection of ambient light. So that combined with their very light AG coating means that in bright rooms, their black level isn't as good. Stores are, of course, extremely bright. So they don't put on their best showing there.

Along the "it's a bright room" lines OLEDs don't get as bright as LCDs, particularly if you are talking computer monitors. So the LCDs can be, and often are, cranked up more and particularly in a bright room. All other things being equal, you'll prefer the brighter thing.

Really, they don't compare well on a show-room floor, they need a place with less light to really show off.
AFAIK, the lack of polarizer is to get some more brightness out of the the QDOLEDs rather than improving viewing angles (which in most cases is not a problem on any OLEDs). Traiding poor blacks for a marginal increase in viewing angles seems like a bad tradeoff.
 
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Asking lcd vs oled is like asking 2 door vs 4 door (car), and completely ignoring use.

while a 2 door sports car will probably be more fun than most 4 door station wagons, once you have to move more than 2 ppl and maybe a dog/bikes, it becomes more or less useless.

the same way i saw ppl coming to my shop telling me they want an oled tv because its the "best" tv, while their use (watching the "news") and location (bright room), was not what they are designed for.
and if comparing to mini/micro led units, i can have non-oleds getting identical blacks, without having issues like image retention or even burn in, and at best case at least a noticeable drop in brightness after 3-5 y of use,
when the blue start to dim and red/green output is lowered to match it.
 
cant tell for last gen stuff as i havent been working in retail sales for a while now, but part of the training i had (mil channel) included talking to techs, one being the different life expectancy on organic leds,
and that to make up for the loss of blue (going out sooner), the other colors would be dropped in output as well, to keep image uniform, but impacting max output for brightness.
cant even tell if this was done by the tv, or if it got covered thru calibration, just something i know to remember, in case a customer asked.

then again, not something i worried about (in detail), as they have pro stuff like 32in oled monis, that go for 30-50 K, so i assume they know what they talk about :D
 
cant tell for last gen stuff as i havent been working in retail sales for a while now, but part of the training i had (mil channel) included talking to techs, one being the different life expectancy on organic leds,
and that to make up for the loss of blue (going out sooner), the other colors would be dropped in output as well, to keep image uniform, but impacting max output for brightness.
cant even tell if this was done by the tv, or if it got covered thru calibration, just something i know to remember, in case a customer asked.

then again, not something i worried about (in detail), as they have pro stuff like 32in oled monis, that go for 30-50 K, so i assume they know what they talk about :D
Are there any TVs or monitors sold with RGB leds that would allow for a degradation like that today? With everything being WOLED or QD-OLED with a conversion layer above the leds I don't see how that particular concern would be a thing nowadays.
 
Maybe not.
But when i see 10y old hw being sold as "new" (marked by me for project, but was never used), i would check at least 3-4 reviews regarding panels used,
or if there are different V's released, so you dont end up with older tech, even if its just some value unit using a "previous" gen to be affordable.

not that i think its an issue with common brands, but when i look at some of the oled (moni) reviews, im still happy with a larger FALD unit, and probably will go miniLed, just for cost.
 
AFAIK, the lack of polarizer is to get some more brightness out of the the QDOLEDs rather than improving viewing angles (which in most cases is not a problem on any OLEDs). Traiding poor blacks for a marginal increase in viewing angles seems like a bad tradeoff.
Could be, I didn't know about that part of it, just the viewing angles, having observed that. It is amazing how wide the viewing angles are. Like WOLED is good, better than IPS, but it does drop off at the sides. QDOLED you can look at practically perpendicular and it still looks great. It is nice if you have a big living room. I noticed in our living room how good the TV looks even in some really crappy sitting positions.
 
if comparing to mini/micro led units, i can have non-oleds getting identical blacks, without having issues like image retention or even burn in, and at best case at least a noticeable drop in brightness after 3-5 y of use,
when the blue start to dim and red/green output is lowered to match it.


You can't get the same kind of black depth and contrast in uniform fashion on FALD LCDs. In large planes of dark or bright you can get very large values - but wherever there is mixed brights and darks (which is how most detail, depth is shown in textures, clothes, hair, architecture, geography, objects on screen in general, etc ) , or where larger planes of bright and dark areas meet in areas on the borders, the contrast on FALD LCDs drops from their huge numbers back down to 3000:1 to 5000:1 and the accompany black depths. Blacks are lifted and/or color details and brightness are muted in those areas, even if not outright blooming and rather spread across more zones like a small zone gradient to avoid it being as harsh of a delineation. So FALD are non-uniform - a patchwork of levels as their branches and puddles of tetris brickwork have to tone and blend their output in large backlights which are also "softened" across adjacent backlight levels. The do great with their compensations, work-arounds, or "hacks" to get the most out of the # of zones they are limited to and the limits of the tech in general though.

Really, for LCD, you'd need dual layer LCD with a single LCD layer acting as a backlight, even 1080p LCD backlight of a 4k screen would be 1 pixel lit for every 4 pixels on a 4k LCD screen. As it is now, most of the better FALD lcds are 1200 to 2300 FALD zones. A 4k screen, 3840x2160 has over 8.3 million pixels, so a 2300 zone fald would have one backlight for every 3, 600+ pixels. 1 thousand to 2 thousand plus backlights might not sound like that small of a number but for example, the Neo G8's 1,196 zones is only a 46 x 26 array of backlights. So a 2000+ zone screen would be something like double that which still isn't much really. (Just using Dual-Layer LCD as an example. Dual layer lcd has it's own drawbacks, esp. since manufactures haven't all invested as much in refining and improving them and though there were a few tvs in the uk and china at some point, they aren't really available in the consumer space like FALD and OLED are).

OLED also has major tradeoffs and manufacturers have to use a bunch of tricks to get the most they can out of the limitations of the tech there though, too. It comes down to tradeoffs and usage scenarios like you said, but FALD can not do OLED black depths + sbs contrast across a whole screen/whole scene. It's like having a watercolor paiting where you add water drops to mixed contrast areas, which waters down the colors and the blacks and outside of the lines/shadow masks of things.

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Greater # of LED FALD zones would enable better lighting resolution potentially, but that isn't always the case in what the manufacturer delivers. For example, the hisense 85ux 85" 4k tv has 5000 zones, but according to RTings review of it:

Overall, the TV's processing keeps up very well with fast-moving objects, and lighting zone transitions aren't very noticeable, with minimal haloing. Still, small bright objects get so dim with rapid movement that they almost disappear, which is disappointing on a TV with this many dimming zones.

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True micro LED is per pixel emissive rather than using a LCD backlit by an array of LED lights, so that's not the same thing as a consumer FALD. Afaik , micro LED are not consumer priced and sized yet really so not a valid comparsion there. If they were, everyone would be buying them and there wouldn't be need for threads like this OLED vs FALD one.


https://www.microled-info.com/introduction

Micro-LED vs LED​


Current so-called LED displays are actually LCD displays that use LED as backlighting units - which are always on with a liquid-crystal layer that is used to create the actual image (i.e. block the light where needed). This complicated LCD structure results in a device with serious image quality drawbacks (mainly a low response time and relatively poor contrast ratio) and also difficulties in achieving flexibility and high-quality transparency.



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Compared to an LCD display, a micro-LED is much simpler, as the LEDs themselves emit the light and can be individually controlled. This results in displays that offer a much better image quality (contrast, response time) and are highly efficient, too, as there are no filters as in LCDs. As opposed to LCDs, micro-LEDs can be made flexible.

Micro-LED vs OLED​


OLED is the current premium emissive display technology, already adopted in many mobile devices, wearables and even TVs. In 2020 around 500 million OLED displays shipped to companies such as Samsung, Apple, LG, Sony and others. OLEDs can be made flexible, foldable and even rollable and the displays offer the best image quality currently in production.

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https://www.yolegroup.com/strategy-insights/did-apple-just-kill-the-microled-industry/
 
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except most of the time you arent going to use the full range, just because i can see a picture, doesnt make it good enough for some ppl to enjoy, and with most oleds being <75in, you dont have as much "coverage" (say using horseshoe formed sitting area), vs 75/85in, and higher end usually have an extended range when it comes to viewing angles (vs cheaper sets), at least good enough that most watching sport still prefered using led (outside the movie room), for watching everyday stuff.
one of the reason i always asked for use/location, gaining a single benefit (over other tech) like viewing angle, might not be worth if you trading many other things (brightness, screen reflecting from sun shining into room).
i have seen it too many times, with ppl knowingly trading something good, for what they prefer (eg max HDR brightness), as not everyone weighs the benefits vs trade offs, like most here would do..

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old enough to know that numbers on a piece of paper dont always tell the full story, or always "right".
on paper a 500 hp Ferrari should easily beat a 350 hp Porsche (with lots of weight in the back), but nothing on the road or track confirms it.
and someone buying a +300K 2-door sports car, doesnt buy it because its 3 times faster than a +100K car, they do because they like "that one" (so to speak).

for almost a year i had a 65in Z series mounted next to the 65A9 (oled), showing identical content on both screens, and from some exceptions,many changed their mind from initial interest,
as some realized i can watch the news in a bright room, but still have a decent IQ for a movie every other week, and others planning to purchase an led drive tv, saw the benefit of surface audio (+ ext sub),
as enough of gains to go oled, so they could get rid of some audio equipment, even if it meant trading brightness (use during the day).

and for me:
while my 50in with a few zones is better than any (single) cfl moni/tv i ever had, any min/micro led screen will still be a big improvement regarding light control, at least to the point where i dont see letter sized areas being lit,
just because there is a small bright item on a dark background..
 
Micro LED would be great. Afaik there are still not consumer price range and sized micro LED screens. They are like 100" plus and over $100 thousand usd.

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Considering that I don't think those are a viable alternative overall just yet.

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FALD is not a microLED. FALD are "mini LED" at best, which means zones somehwhat smaller than most of the gens prior. That's still only a 46x26 grid for a 1200 zone array, or 100-ish x 50 -ish for ~ 2000+ zone arrays.

FALD and OLEDs can look great but both have major tradeoffs. FALD and OLEDs both pull out some very clever tricks to ameliorate and mask their deficiencies as best they can.

However, saying "i can have non-oleds getting identical blacks" is not true in areas of mixed contrast and on perimeters where brights and darks meet. The blacks within and around those zones are lifted (and blended across the surrounding zones so it's not a harsh delineation). Mixed contrast areas and the backlight "gradient" adjacent zones drop the contrast in those areas down to 3000:1 to 5000:1 and the accompanying black levels while more uniform fields of brights, and more uniform fields of darks as separate areas of the scene have drastically better values than that. The firmware/algorithm can also mute the color range in those types of areas depending how the fw addresses it. Instead of being as hot or as cold, you get puddles of areas and around branches that are warm.



The iso setting of the camera + SDR screen in these shots included in the quote below GREATLY exaggerate the effect in these pictures, but it shows where the lifting occurs on the uxc FALD screen, which has great HDR overall. FALD can't be uniform black , it lifts it. FALD will always be a non-uniform patchwork. The only way to get precision values with FALD is to turn it off. That said, OLED also steps down brightness or crashes it with ABL, (plus may have logo dimming on, etc) - so it's not really calibrated to 100% static levels/values either.

It's worth noting that most FALDs have a matte coating which can lift blacks when ambient lighting hits it, and look less wet and saturated than a glossy screen can. Matte is an abraded outer layer, which means it's scratched/pebbled, diffusing light and with the texture being activated by light. When direct lighting hits it, it will pollute the screen with a blob of light rather than a mirrored reflection but it's still polluting the screen and the screen parameters. There are a few falds that are glossy (like samsung's 8k 900D) , though it's rare for them to be.

FALD can still look great though overall, and like you said it can depend what your usage scenario is.

These sdr scene screen captures from a few videos below, including hdtvtest's review of the pro art ucx. The images are in sdr, compressed, and the screen shotting also affected them. The reviewers had to use different iso/camera settings to show the effect in sdr. So the images are greatly exaggerated compared to what you'd see in real life, but it highlights where the FALD is lifting the blacks and dark detail.

While FALD can get very high contrast numbers on larger fields of dark and larger fields of bright/white, in mixed contrast areas it will drop those combined areas back to nearer the native contrast of the screen, 3000:1 to 5000:1 typically. 3,000:1 to 5,000:1 were ok numbers for an edge lit VA screen in previous years, but in viewing dynamic content on a FALD you are dynamically elevating and dropping the zones so the effect on uniformity is bad. The larger fields of brights and darks remain much more solidly at their enormously greater brightness/darkness level values while mixed contrast area puddles all over a scene are lifting and dimming down to near native contrast and with fluctuating elevation. The actual video most of these images are from is linked at the bottom of the quote.

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"elevated blacks and a distracting amount of fluctuating elevation"

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From a different review of the ucx, capturing the lifted area around a cursor or other small detail area:


View: https://imgur.com/21tdf1f


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From a samsung 90B FALD review (camera iso and sdr capture greatly exaggerating the effect but it shows how larger areas are lifting, (and dynamically across the screen in actual viewing).

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HDTVTEST youtube video


View: https://youtu.be/v26lTJAHaFU?si=JAowkxlvhlLemrvi

Mini LED Tech Helps Asus Cram 1152 Zones into 32" Monitor, But Is It Enough? (PA32UCX Review)

 
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I was born in '77...never forget the feeling of walking into Zayers in 1981-1982ish and seeing Atari 2600 display showcasing pacman...blew our fucking minds!

Second time gaming blew my mind was playing super mario brothers on the NES on my parents living room tv.

Third time gaming blew my mind was getting my first 086, then 286 12mhz, then 386 16mhz PC and playing classic sims like GATO, F-19 Stealth all the sierra kings quest, police quest, space quest, heros quest, and leisure suit larry games.

Fourth time gaming blew my mind was the Sega Genesis with amazing 16 bit graphics and unparalled fun games like original maddens and NHL hockeys.

FIfth time gaming blew my mind was N64 Mario, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Conkers Bad Fur day

Sixth time gaming blew my mind OG xbox Halo, Transworld surf, Maddens, etc

Seventh time gaming blew my mind, back to PC with Battlefield 1942
Maybe the first person that I know of that would remember Zayer's, also KING department stores was a player and also COOKS department stores was in that era I remember from the 70's in my area of Greensboro NC as a kid.
 
I just got a PG32UCDM and the VRR flicker is horrendous in many games with dark scenes. Much worse than my C1 OLED TV. I wonder if the high refresh rate of 240Hz exacerbated the issue. Honestly as much as the image quality is better than my old ips, the VRR flicker is very distracting.
 
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I just got a PG32UCDM and the VRR flicker is horrendous in many games with dark scenes. Much worse than my C1 OLED TV. I wonder if the high refresh rate of 240Hz exacerbated the issue. Honestly as much as the image quality is better than my old ips, the VRR flicker is very distracting.
What games? Turn off VRR and lock to a framerate, flicker is caused by large swings in frames like 240fps down to 60fps, for example.
 
What games? Turn off VRR and lock to a framerate, flicker is caused by large swings in frames like 240fps down to 60fps, for example.
Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake II, MS Flight Simulator (when flying at night) and Dying Light 2. The frame rates were fairly consistent at around 100~130 fps range with no wild swings and yet the VRR flickering was really bad in-game. I mean I don't mind it happening in menu screens but when it happens while I'm playing, it's super distracting.

I guess I'll have to turn off G-Sync when I play those games but I wish there was another solution other than giving up VRR but I guess since it's an inherent issue with OLED that can't be avoided, apparently.
 
Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake II, MS Flight Simulator (when flying at night) and Dying Light 2. The frame rates were fairly consistent at around 100~130 fps range with no wild swings and yet the VRR flickering was really bad in-game. I mean I don't mind it happening in menu screens but when it happens while I'm playing, it's super distracting.

I guess I'll have to turn off G-Sync when I play those games but I wish there was another solution other than giving up VRR but I guess since it's an inherent issue with OLED that can't be avoided, apparently.

It's not just the frame rate that needs to be stable, your frametimes also need to be stable. If you have Rivatuner, check your frametime plot to see if it's a flat line. Flat line means stable frametimes.
 
Speaking of VRR flicker, I've finally found a game where it is actually persistent in gameplay, Dragon's Dogma 2. Usually I just have flicker in loading screens but DD2's frametime performance is so bad that the game is nothing but a VRR flicker hell almost all the time. The game itself is also very meh that once I've sunk a good amount of hours into it to see if it would get better with time, I decided instead to just give up playing. Terrible performance from a mid game and I actually enjoyed the first one.


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Definitely not.

What I would say is my Sony OLED is warped is the best way to describe it.

You don’t see it but can feel it.

I’m sure if I put a flat edge on it I could work out how much distortion there is.
 
I uninstalled DD2 after 6 hours. Ripped off.

GOT on other hand I'm kissing 40 hours which is a lot for me.

Going from GOT to DD2 was such a day and night difference in gameplay smoothness/optimization. I got 160+ fps in GOT with buttery smooth frametimes while DD2 I was getting sub 60fps with major stuttering. I would refund the game if I could. A PC launch as bad as DD2 in 2024 is completely unacceptable.
 
Going from GOT to DD2 was such a day and night difference in gameplay smoothness/optimization. I got 160+ fps in GOT with buttery smooth frametimes while DD2 I was getting sub 60fps with major stuttering. I would refund the game if I could. A PC launch as bad as DD2 in 2024 is completely unacceptable.
I'm like 80-100fps on the 57 and about where your at 160fps on the AW32

Ahh 38.2 hours with GOT and actually made it 10 hours with DD2 haha
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I have a LG C2 and an IPS side by side. The difference is night an day. The IPS is usable but no way in hell will I go back to it as my daily driver after using my C2. There is no glow at all on my C2...just lush vibrant deep colors. IPS on my right is washed out in comparison.
 
I have a LG C2 and an IPS side by side. The difference is night an day. The IPS is usable but no way in hell will I go back to it as my daily driver after using my C2. There is no glow at all on my C2...just lush vibrant deep colors. IPS on my right is washed out in comparison.
Yeah, the way light spills through what's suppose to be a black screen is what first struck me about LCD.
 
For me, the motion clarity is why I won't be going back to LCD anymore. OLED response times + 240Hz is too good to give up. I can hit 200+ fps in many titles now since I have no issues with using DLSS Performance mode as long as it's v3.7. DLSS Performance mode used to look like hot garbage even when used at 4K, but Nvidia has improved DLSS so much going from 2.0 to 3.7 that Performance mode now looks great as long you are on a 4K display. I bought Kena on steam summer sale and I gotta say the camera panning at 200+ fps on an OLED in a 3rd person game just looks soooo much cleaner and crisp than it would on a 144Hz LCD.
 

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Just need brightness to be improved. Which model did you go with?

The MSI MAG. I'm sure brightness will improve over time, seems like the main priority for the first 3 generations of QD OLED was improving lifespan first. If we don't get brightness bumps starting with 4th gen QD OLEDs that's going to be very disappointing.
 
I was born in '77...never forget the feeling of walking into Zayers in 1981-1982ish and seeing Atari 2600 display showcasing pacman...blew our fucking minds!

Second time gaming blew my mind was playing super mario brothers on the NES on my parents living room tv.

Third time gaming blew my mind was getting my first 086, then 286 12mhz, then 386 16mhz PC and playing classic sims like GATO, F-19 Stealth all the sierra kings quest, police quest, space quest, heros quest, and leisure suit larry games.

Fourth time gaming blew my mind was the Sega Genesis with amazing 16 bit graphics and unparalled fun games like original maddens and NHL hockeys.

FIfth time gaming blew my mind was N64 Mario, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Conkers Bad Fur day

Sixth time gaming blew my mind OG xbox Halo, Transworld surf, Maddens, etc

Seventh time gaming blew my mind, back to PC with Battlefield 1942
Wow! Haven't thought of Zayres in many decades. Last one I was in was Lorain Ohio in early 80's.
 
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I am so torn right now as there is a person selling a MSI 321UPX panel for $800 Canadian ($575 US) with a receipt near me. About 40 hours use on the panel, but he said it was too dim compared to his mini-LED setup so is selling it as it is outside of the return window. How much of a step down would the text and image clarity be going from an older 1440P Gigabyte F127QP IPS to this panel? I so miss black blacks, and a glossy display, but if the image clarity is a huge drop in quality as some users have reported, then I might hold off for the next gen of mini-LED displays. I do a lot of productivity work, so if the text is unreadable it will be a no go. I wish there were stores that had these newer OLED on display so that a person could see what the picture quality is like, and if they are good enough for day to day use in a work environment.
 
I am so torn right now as there is a person selling a MSI 321UPX panel for $800 Canadian ($575 US) with a receipt near me. About 40 hours use on the panel, but he said it was too dim compared to his mini-LED setup so is selling it as it is outside of the return window. How much of a step down would the text and image clarity be going from an older 1440P Gigabyte F127QP IPS to this panel? I so miss black blacks, and a glossy display, but if the image clarity is a huge drop in quality as some users have reported, then I might hold off for the next gen of mini-LED displays. I do a lot of productivity work, so if the text is unreadable it will be a no go. I wish there were stores that had these newer OLED on display so that a person could see what the picture quality is like, and if they are good enough for day to day use in a work environment.

Unfortunately this is a highly subjective matter. You have some people who say that the text clarity is perfectly fine while others say it's horrendously bad so asking around for opinions you will only get mixed answers. Only way to find out for yourself is to just try it for yourself. For me personally, the text clarity obviously isn't the BEST out there if you wanna compare it to something like a 27" 4K IPS panel. But for me, it's "useable" and looks "fine", but I'm not super nitpicky about this topic. I used to rock an LG CX48 and Acer X27 in the same setup and had no issues with viewing text on the CX despite it being so obviously inferior to the X27.
 
I am so torn right now as there is a person selling a MSI 321UPX panel for $800 Canadian ($575 US) with a receipt near me. About 40 hours use on the panel, but he said it was too dim compared to his mini-LED setup so is selling it as it is outside of the return window. How much of a step down would the text and image clarity be going from an older 1440P Gigabyte F127QP IPS to this panel? I so miss black blacks, and a glossy display, but if the image clarity is a huge drop in quality as some users have reported, then I might hold off for the next gen of mini-LED displays. I do a lot of productivity work, so if the text is unreadable it will be a no go. I wish there were stores that had these newer OLED on display so that a person could see what the picture quality is like, and if they are good enough for day to day use in a work environment.
Keep the IPS for productivity and web browsing. Use the OLED for gaming, movies, etc.
 
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