World of Warships Enters Open Beta!

Business6 said:
Challenge accepted! I'll put that to the test.
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By all means, do :) Just know that you are investing a magnitude of more time than if you had a premium ship is all. In World of Tanks for instance, once you start playing in Tier 9's.. it was pretty par for course that unless you were dominating every round, you would actually leave net negative with in-game credits.

What that meant was as you grind through tier 9 to 10, you are actually losing credits while you edge along in XP. The only way to get around this was to subsidize your income by playing lower tier tanks to simply make money. However, as it turns out even doing that would/could/can take a massive amount of in game time. Alternatively you could buy a tier 8 premium tank. In my case, lets say I play a tier 8 tank, regular tank. If I had like 4-5 kills in a game and played like a boss I could get away with maybe 30,000 in game credits. However on average, it would be like 12-17k. Now, in my tier 8 premium tank? A good round would net me close to 120,000 credits, and a shitty loss would never be below 30,000.

Time is money, and many people would simply grind premium ships to quite honestly save countless days upon days of real world life.

Not sure if Warships will be the same, but in Tanks.. none of this "end game" style play was apparent until you got to tier 9. So you would grind, save, grind save through all the tiers in Tanks, just like you do today in Ships. Then bam.. tier 9 and the repair costs on everything will generally outpace what you actually earn resulting in a net loss. I believe honestly this was done not to general a ton of capital for the game (part of it I'm sure), but it kept tier 9 and 10 in a place where only the most dedicated of the community could operate, play, and tournament against each other. Tier 10 was a place where you simply didn't see noobs at all, b/c it was impossible to get there without playing an ungodly amount of the game.

I suspect it will be the same, or else they won't sell high tier premium ships. People aren't buying premium ships for any other reason to be honest. Premium ships are never as good as like-tier upgraded ships. Their role in game is mostly to subsidize income really.

Let me know how things go when you get to tier 9 and 10. In 2.5 years of playing Tanks, I never got a single tier 10. I was running a premium account the entire time, and had a couple premium tanks.
 
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This game isn't nearly as grindy as tanks, which makes sense considering the IP and userbase isn't nearly as established. I have a full time job and beginning to get a life again (oh the world of dating...yeesh) but if I solely play a single class I'll get to the Zao or Montana in 2-4 weeks. The curious thing to me is that compared to CBT there doesn't seem to be any changes whatsoever in XP or Credits earned, only the amount that is required for the modules, upgrades and ships themselves. The fact that I've earned 500k in an Omaha and regularly earn 300-450k in it is encouraging...sort of.

I bought my Tier 7 Myoko last week and still haven't played a single match in it, lol. I'm working on the Fuso, New Mexico and Cleveland along with my division mates concurrently. Equal tier is the right thing to do, afterall.
 
Business6 said:
beginning to get a life again (oh the world of dating...yeesh)
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goddamn...good for you!!

I had you for doomed


also, actually pretty proud of this one, not huge like some...but well placed for what it was

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jojo69 said:
goddamn...good for you!!

I had you for doomed

also, actually pretty proud of this one, not huge like some...but well placed for what it was
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Haha, no kidding right?

And don't discount your results there. Playing DD in the 2-3 tier isn't fun at all. Isokaze and Minekaze are where it's at. I researched the Mustuki but there's really no reason to play anything other than the Minekaze, imo.
 
Business6 said:
Haha, no kidding right?

And don't discount your results there. Playing DD in the 2-3 tier isn't fun at all. Isokaze and Minekaze are where it's at. I researched the Mustuki but there's really no reason to play anything other than the Minekaze, imo.
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agree, must suki suki is shite.. hatsu's not much better but it is better.. fubuki is a beast though.. it's just the minekaze with 3x3 launchers and twice the torp reload time. hitting people 15km away is so much fun, lol. get 2 fubuki's on the same team, the wall of torps is amazing.


btw for the NA players don't forget about this..

http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/tier-iv-cruiser-contest/

only ships you can use is the phoenix and kuma.
 
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When are AP shells usefull? I figured maybe when fighting a battleship or something, but I just can't figure it out ^^
 
The game is a blast, much more fun than WoT so far at least. It is more team oriented and requires more strategy and teamwork imo.

Although I did have a beast of a game yesterday
 
jojo69 said:
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devastating strikes to the citadel
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Can be a little more complicated than that (I still don't have enough games in most of my ships to have a good feel off the bat so I tend to fire a volley or two of AP first to find out if I'm not sure).

AP has higher armor penetration than HE, but can either not penetrate, or over penetrate, both of which do little or no damage. HE always explodes on contact so even against the most heavily armored ships you will cause damage with each hit.

From longer range, your shells will likely be plunging fire and going through the weaker deck armor. Meaning you can fire AP at more heavily armored targets (like a cruiser, you can fire AP higher tier/heavy cruisers or less heavily armored battleships) and still penetrate, at close range you're either hitting the superstructure, or going through the heavier side armor so you won't penetrate as often.

Both HE and AP can get citadel hits, or cause detonations, but since they don't often penetrate unless you're firing at very lightly armored targets, HE is much less likely to do so.


The basic rule is: if you can penetrate with AP, fire AP, you will always do more damage (excluding fire damage).
Except for carriers, I always use HE until their flight decks are on fire, because they can't launch planes while burning.

It also depends on what ship you're using, a destroyer should never fire AP at a battleship, you're not going to penetrate, and a battleship should never fire AP at destroyers or carriers, it's going in one side and out the other.

If you're in a cruiser or American destroyer, try AP if you think you've got a shot, the guns reload so quickly you're not losing much if you have to swap to HE.
 
Also I read if you're worried about over penetrating fire at the waterline when you're close up. Most magazines are down there and you won't OP, or make sure you fire their bow is facing you and you'll penetrate the length of the ship.
 
theNoid said:
I suspect it will be the same, or else they won't sell high tier premium ships. People aren't buying premium ships for any other reason to be honest. Premium ships are never as good as like-tier upgraded ships. Their role in game is mostly to subsidize income really.

Let me know how things go when you get to tier 9 and 10. In 2.5 years of playing Tanks, I never got a single tier 10. I was running a premium account the entire time, and had a couple premium tanks.
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Eh? T-59 was OP for a long long time, same with E-25, so at least in WoT premium was better for some time.

How many matches did you play over 2.5 years? I am reasonably sure that I got to my first T10 in WoT in just a few thousand matches. At just over 13k battles I have 7 different T10 tanks unlocked (not all purchased). Did you unlock them and just didn't purchase them, or did you not get to unlock them?

In reply to another poster who said that WoWS requires more strategy, I am not convinced. In WoT strategy actually mattered as you had to effectively use terrain, out-circle enemy guns by keeping your traverse high, use concealment and know the effects of terrain on speed, know your choke points, etc. etc., WoWS seems a lot less complex and far more arcade-y to me. Still fun, but imho not nearly as difficult to be good at than it is in WoT.
 
for those that want a new garage slot, if you go to the premium store type in "ALBANY" as the bonus code, you'll get the ship + garage slot, just sell the ship, it's worse than the actual T2 normal cruiser but you'll get a 300 doubloon garage slot for free.


FREE SHIP GIVEAWAY HAS ENDED, if you missed it ya snooze ya lose..
 
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sirmonkey1985 said:
for those that want a new garage slot, if you go to the premium store type in "ALBANY" as the bonus code, you'll get the ship + garage slot, just sell the ship, it's worse than the actual T2 normal cruiser but you'll get a 300 doubloon garage slot for free.


This works in all regions
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perfect

thank you!
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
for those that want a new garage slot, if you go to the premium store type in "ALBANY" as the bonus code, you'll get the ship + garage slot, just sell the ship, it's worse than the actual T2 normal cruiser but you'll get a 300 doubloon garage slot for free.


This works in all regions
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Nice!
 
Thuleman said:
Eh? T-59 was OP for a long long time, same with E-25, so at least in WoT premium was better for some time.

How many matches did you play over 2.5 years? I am reasonably sure that I got to my first T10 in WoT in just a few thousand matches. At just over 13k battles I have 7 different T10 tanks unlocked (not all purchased). Did you unlock them and just didn't purchase them, or did you not get to unlock them?

In reply to another poster who said that WoWS requires more strategy, I am not convinced. In WoT strategy actually mattered as you had to effectively use terrain, out-circle enemy guns by keeping your traverse high, use concealment and know the effects of terrain on speed, know your choke points, etc. etc., WoWS seems a lot less complex and far more arcade-y to me. Still fun, but imho not nearly as difficult to be good at than it is in WoT.
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Oh I agree about WoT but it was so much easier to solo, at least for me but I'm just lvl 4 so far in WoWS so not that much experience. In WoT I got to t9 in the year I played and I enjoyed it and the higher I got the more strategy was required especially if you wanted to have a positive money balance at the end of a match.
 
Climber said:
Nvm...
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click buy doubloons in the upper right, it will open a browser tab, you will have to log in in the browser

then bonus code button

edit/ yeah, took me a second to figure it out also, leaving my answer for anyone else
 
jojo69 said:
click buy doubloons in the upper right, it will open a browser tab, you will have to log in in the browser

then bonus code button

edit/ yeah, took me a second to figure it out also, leaving my answer for anyone else
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Thanks, yea literally the second I switched back out I saw the bonus code button. Feel a little stupid for not seeing it before posting.
 
jojo69 said:
click buy doubloons in the upper right, it will open a browser tab, you will have to log in in the browser

then bonus code button

edit/ yeah, took me a second to figure it out also, leaving my answer for anyone else
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this^ or another option is to go to the WoWS website, premium stores at the top middle of the page, then click bonus code.. guess i should of mentioned these options in my post, i failed.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
for those that want a new garage slot, if you go to the premium store type in "ALBANY" as the bonus code, you'll get the ship + garage slot, just sell the ship, it's worse than the actual T2 normal cruiser but you'll get a 300 doubloon garage slot for free.


This works in all regions
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Thanks for the code!
 
Not as good as business6 shots, but still pretty proud. Got to love it when you sneak up the glory hole in twin brothers.

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Thuleman said:
@Business6, Omaha, Hull B or C?
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i prefer the B hull on the Omaha, C hull gives you more AA and a little HP but the the position of the 2 guns you lose hurts the omaha a lot. also lose 2 torp launchers, one on each side.
 
Thuleman said:
@Business6, Omaha, Hull B or C?
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sirmonkey1985 said:
i prefer the B hull on the Omaha, C hull gives you more AA and a little HP but the the position of the 2 guns you lose hurts the omaha a lot. also lose 2 torp launchers, one on each side.
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What he said. You're better off sticking with the more offense-oriented B Hull.

chibe said:
Not as good as business6 shots, but still pretty proud. Got to love it when you sneak up the glory hole in twin brothers.
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Nice work! DDs are tough as hell to play most of the time. I love the Minekaze but it's been a solid 3 weeks since I've played DD. It's pretty damn intense running up the middle channel on Two Brothers.
 
Business6 said:
I made a video about that: AP vs HE

It is an easy question to turn into an excessively complicated ordeal, unfortunately.
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Thanks, I'm now effectively using AP shells, and it has saved my ass a few times :)

FYI, I love the ST.Louis, once upgraded, it has to be one of the most fun ships there is, 3 of us were on it, and we were obliterating targets, lol, averaged 100+ shots hit each round with it.

Also I agree Ohama B >C, I have researched the C, but never purchased / mounted it.
 
FINALLY got my North Carolina this weekend and holy fuck, I feel like I noob all over again. This thing is hard as hell to get shots on anything in the 18km or longer range and no thanks the fucking battleship nerfs, its a total chore to play, even fully upgraded.

Maybe I should just buy the Spamlanta and give up BB's......
 
Business6 said:
The point was that a premium ship isn't needed to make money quickly so long as your play is above average. The amount of bad players running around in Atlantas and Atagos is frightening.
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You don't need to be good with the Spamlanta, you just fire the living fuck out of it. Atago's....yeah shitty players die real fast due to the long reload time
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
Thanks, I'm now effectively using AP shells, and it has saved my ass a few times :)

FYI, I love the ST.Louis, once upgraded, it has to be one of the most fun ships there is, 3 of us were on it, and we were obliterating targets, lol, averaged 100+ shots hit each round with it.
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How to play the St. Louis: hold down the left mouse button until the other guy blows up.
It's the only ship I've kept so far after unlocking the next tier.

Also I agree Ohama B >C, I have researched the C, but never purchased / mounted it.
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Same, giving up the torpedoes wouldn't be a big deal, but American cruisers are all about the guns. Trading 2 main guns for some AA doesn't seem worth it most cases. Especially since even the B has enough AA to be a modest threat to those low tier airplanes.
Only reason to upgrade to the C is if you only really play a as battleship escort.
 
FreiDOg said:
How to play the St. Louis: hold down the left mouse button until the other guy blows up.
It's the only ship I've kept so far after unlocking the next tier.



Same, giving up the torpedoes wouldn't be a big deal, but American cruisers are all about the guns. Trading 2 main guns for some AA doesn't seem worth it most cases. Especially since even the B has enough AA to be a modest threat to those low tier airplanes.
Only reason to upgrade to the C is if you only really play a as battleship escort.
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exactly, and no one wants to play BB support :p I have on multiple occasions left the front line to go help a Battleship or Carrier with destroyers though.
 
I suck at torpedoes. Getting better but most games I'm only getting 2-4 hits. Had one with 6 but that was against the bots. Debating to stick with cruisers and bb and just skip the destroyers but I was stationed on a destroyer during my naval time so kinda feel obligated to learn them haha
 
Business6 said:
Last of the Tier 6 videos for now: The Fuso
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Some feedback:

When you are talking about these ships keep in mind that they are directly patterned after the real historical ships. The Fuso for example was laid down in 1912, launched in 1914, and commissioned in 1915. It was modernized and refitted 2 times before being sunk. Even after refit, the 14inch guns were fully outclassed by 1935, and AA was an afterthought strapped on. By the time it was sunk, it was just shy of 30 years active service.
 
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