World of Warships Enters Open Beta!

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Events, ranked, clan battles give it as well IIRC. Keep an eye on the campaigns or whatever they run.
Cool, appreciated. I know I'm a whore but I really want a smolensk before they remove it... need another 75k
 

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Cool, appreciated. I know I'm a whore but I really want a smolensk before they remove it... need another 75k
I mean.. you can buy the containers in the premium shop. Not that I'd personally do that. I haven't spent a dime on this game since mid 2018.

Not sure when they are removing the smolensk. Personally I dont' find the kooter fun so I doubt I'd care for the smolensk.

I got put off by the stealth nerfs and CVs. That’s why I stopped spending money... They got way too much out of me anyways.
 

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I mean.. you can buy the containers in the premium shop. Not that I'd personally do that. I haven't spent a dime on this game since mid 2018.

Not sure when they are removing the smolensk. Personally I dont' find the kooter fun so I doubt I'd care for the smolensk.

I got put off by the stealth nerfs and CVs. That’s why I stopped spending money... They got way too much out of me anyways.
Understandable. I want it because I have no other ship that plays remotely like it I'm mainly a BB guy, so those "200 main battery hits in 1 game" are a bitch
 

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Cool, appreciated. I know I'm a whore but I really want a smolensk before they remove it... need another 75k
They're not going to remove it. There are enough people that have it now and who do very, very poorly in it that it makes it look "balanced" on the spreadsheet.

I fucking wish I was joking.

Also, this is one of those things where ROI is evidently placed ahead of the health of the game. Making a new ship costs a ton of man hours along with the internal testing and whatnot. To introduce it then pull it shortly after release is a huge blow to their investment. That's why the Kutuzov still made them a lot of money (Kutuzov + Irian) and why it's actually much more likely that we won't see the Slava as they literally have zero model changes from the Kremlin so they're much more willing to not have that come back than if it were a new model or one with any significant changes.
 

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They're not going to remove it. There are enough people that have it now and who do very, very poorly in it that it makes it look "balanced" on the spreadsheet.

I fucking wish I was joking.

Also, this is one of those things where ROI is evidently placed ahead of the health of the game. Making a new ship costs a ton of man hours along with the internal testing and whatnot. To introduce it then pull it shortly after release is a huge blow to their investment. That's why the Kutuzov still made them a lot of money (Kutuzov + Irian) and why it's actually much more likely that we won't see the Slava as they literally have zero model changes from the Kremlin so they're much more willing to not have that come back than if it were a new model or one with any significant changes.
If you stroll through the WarGaming WOWS forums, its all balanced, you need to git gud, and if you disagree they will work to get you banned.

The game is as toxic as the community. I dropped in a week ago, played a few hours in a free arizona they gave me, said, no, its the same shit, and uninstalled.
 

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They just REALLY need to add a better tutorial system, or force people to watch Business6 videos and stream. My WR is awful, but I'm almost always top 3 on my teams. Seems if you aren't a unicum that can carry every game, winning is a fluke
 

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If you stroll through the WarGaming WOWS forums, its all balanced, you need to git gud, and if you disagree they will work to get you banned.

The game is as toxic as the community. I dropped in a week ago, played a few hours in a free arizona they gave me, said, no, its the same shit, and uninstalled.
The forums are hilarious. A bunch of shitters who pretend that they don't get utterly wrecked when following their own advice.

They just REALLY need to add a better tutorial system, or force people to watch Business6 videos and stream. My WR is awful, but I'm almost always top 3 on my teams. Seems if you aren't a unicum that can carry every game, winning is a fluke
While I appreciate that the issue is that it's pointless to put any resources into "a better tutorial." The players that really need to have some help are incapable of improving. Consider the lack of new game modes; that isn't because WG doesn't want to put them in but instead that even standard battle is difficult for the lowest common denominator to figure out. WG/Lesta was not prepared for just how bad players actually are and frankly a tutorial or any sort of forced viewing won't change anything.
 

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I still have fun, you just have to go into it with the lowest expectations and play it for what it is. Playing in a div helps a lot. My alias is Dayaks and play on NA if you want to add me, I play sporadically though.

I am split between the Smolensk and the Russian captain kutensov or however you spell that... I am leaning towards the captain and grinding the BB line.

I just won’t spend money because of power creep and such.
 
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I've been WoWS again out of boredom and retried playing CVs and its still derp. Before 8.0 I used to love playing CVs and I didn't mind going up against them either when not playing CV. Now I hate it both ways.

First, playing CV it's almost impossible to do an alpha strike and can only control one squadron at a time. Another annoyance is I can't support my team by attacking enemy bombers with fighters.

Second, when playing a non-CV ship it sucks as the enemy CV keeps spamming planes and the friendly CVs can't do shit about it since they have no fighters to control.
 

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[H] spotted! Unfortunately for rgmekanic I murdered his DDs and then his team was up a creek without a paddle.
 

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Jumped into a few tonight, had a few really decent games, then this.

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Hung it up for the night.
 

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Haha

Feel free to ask any questions. I can't promise answers but opinions are a different story :D
Is it possible for free? If no, how many doubloons do you feel will be required? 1 booster? 2? all of em?

EDIT: Also, do you think there is any chance that WG will see the backlash and drop some of the numbers on the campaign?
 
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Is it possible for free? If no, how many doubloons do you feel will be required? 1 booster? 2? all of em?

EDIT: Also, do you think there is any chance that WG will see the backlash and drop some of the numbers on the campaign?
So first off, the Puerto Rico is a meh ship to begin with.

I think to “whale” it and buy it right out it’s about $230 in doubloons.

To grind it, it’s the equivilant to grinding multiple T10s in some of the sections and you only have four days a section. Even the top players think it’s not possible.

So it’s borderline a scam. I know it’s technically not but what they really want is for you to progress part of the way, then have to drop $100-150 in doubloons.

Here is citizen’s rant.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/520426519


I am more annoyed the christmas boxes are trash... I only have 90 days of premium time left but I also have $120 million credits so maybe I don’t need premium time anymore.
 
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So first off, the Puerto Rico is a meh ship to begin with.

I think to “whale” it and buy it right out it’s about $230 in doubloons.

To grind it, it’s the equivilant to grinding multiple T10s in some of the sections and you only have four days a section. Even the top players think it’s not possible.

So it’s borderline a scam. I know it’s technically not but what they really want is for you to progress part of the way, then have to drop $100-150 in doubloons.

Here is citizen’s rant.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/520426519


I am more annoyed the christmas boxes are trash... I only have 90 days of premium time left but I also have $120 million credits so maybe I don’t need premium time anymore.
Issue is I really want the PR. I know I'm a bit of a scrub in ships, but the Alaska is my favorite ship thus far, and one I seem to play quite well. So a t10 Alaska is something right up my alley.

I bought the first 2 dubloon boosters. I know there's no way in hell I'm getting done with these directives as quickly as needed at my skill level and having a 60hr a week day job
 

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Issue is I really want the PR. I know I'm a bit of a scrub in ships, but the Alaska is my favorite ship thus far, and one I seem to play quite well. So a t10 Alaska is something right up my alley.

I bought the first 2 dubloon boosters. I know there's no way in hell I'm getting done with these directives as quickly as needed at my skill level and having a 60hr a week day job
Yeah sounds like a cash drop is necessary. Here is a snip from reddit:

reddit said:
We already did the math on how this is basically impossible. Recap of what the missions are on 6th directive:

  • 20M Credits
  • 150K BASE XP
  • 350K XP
  • 130 Citadel hits (Only "easy" one)
  • 7K hits
  • 2700 Torp/rocket/bomb hits
  • 230 torp/citadel
  • 7.2K Secondary hits
Reminder you need to do 5 of these, and you have to do them individually

(2). One Booster.

Directives 2 – 4 should be completed within 3 days of the directive’s opening;

Reminder of Directive 4:

  • 9.3M Damage
  • 950K XP
  • 8x 27K Base XP (Nations)
  • 14.5K Base XP (Europe nation)

From: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/ea4brb
 

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I don't think the PR is worth the effort by any means. It's a cross between an Alaska and Montana in the sense that the play is familiar with the Alaska but the dispersion is often dog shit because, while it has 2.2 sigma, it is still on the battleship dispersion table. The extra turret penalizes it immensely in reduced reliability, increased detection, longer reload, slightly reduced mobility (but slightly increased speed) etc etc. The turret angles are pretty shit, too.

As far as the event itself is concerned it was very poorly communicated to players and, as far as I'm concerned, is unattainable for free. Looking at the latter half of the directives it's just flat out bullshit. I couldn't complete this in the amount of time they want and I'd have to make myself more vulnerable by not using combat flags and instead using economic flags. Even with the first booster I don't think a lot of people would be able to get the PR in the end.

Unfortunately another issue now is that people are directing their rage at anyone in a PR. I suspect there have been a number of TK incidents aside from just god awful focus fire. And then with the charity stream next week people are flipping out about that for some reason when it doesn't even go through Warships/WG, lol.
 

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I don't think the PR is worth the effort by any means. It's a cross between an Alaska and Montana in the sense that the play is familiar with the Alaska but the dispersion is often dog shit because, while it has 2.2 sigma, it is still on the battleship dispersion table. The extra turret penalizes it immensely in reduced reliability, increased detection, longer reload, slightly reduced mobility (but slightly increased speed) etc etc. The turret angles are pretty shit, too.

As far as the event itself is concerned it was very poorly communicated to players and, as far as I'm concerned, is unattainable for free. Looking at the latter half of the directives it's just flat out bullshit. I couldn't complete this in the amount of time they want and I'd have to make myself more vulnerable by not using combat flags and instead using economic flags. Even with the first booster I don't think a lot of people would be able to get the PR in the end.

Unfortunately another issue now is that people are directing their rage at anyone in a PR. I suspect there have been a number of TK incidents aside from just god awful focus fire. And then with the charity stream next week people are flipping out about that for some reason when it doesn't even go through Warships/WG, lol.
I saw a PR at rank 5 and while no one directed rage I thought he was brave to take that out lol.
 

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That is perfect, and I think I can do the grind as stated with the 2 dubloon boosters.
I had time to actually look at it and you do get santa crates / coal / steel with the grind.

I went ahead and burned the doubloons I’ve had sitting on my account for a year from my carriers towards boosters. If you’re able to grind the ship with just some boosters the value isn’t terrible. I care more about the steel and coal than the PR itself. Wouldn’t mind having it though.
 

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I'm still amazed you guys are still at this game.

I'm afraid to login and see how much gold I left on my account.
 

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Check out citizen winning a 1v1 without using planes... he did this multiple times.

https://clips.twitch.tv/ExpensiveNeighborlyHeronPJSalt
I mean... wow.

But I will say I have had a good number of matches where Hippers, Atagos, Prinz Eugens and Edinburghs just drive in front of my NC broadside at >10KM trying to torp me. I just nose in and body them, but they just keep doing it. So I am not too surprised at the carrier secondary only thing.
 

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I mean... wow.

But I will say I have had a good number of matches where Hippers, Atagos, Prinz Eugens and Edinburghs just drive in front of my NC broadside at >10KM trying to torp me. I just nose in and body them, but they just keep doing it. So I am not too surprised at the carrier secondary only thing.
https://clips.twitch.tv/DiligentPeacefulTurtleKAPOW

Super fast DD torp rushing? No probs!

I mean.... ranked is a totally balanced and competitve mode, right?

But yeah the amount of terrible players is amazing...
 

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So I bought my own Graf Zep for funsies. Made a video for my interested clan mates when I told them I shredded a Georgia lol.

 

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So I bought my own Graf Zep for funsies. Made a video for my interested clan mates when I told them I shredded a Georgia lol.
His secondaries can't hurt you aside from setting fires or if he isn't running IFHE. Dummmmmmmb
 

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So I have been playing and still cant figure out the meta

Whats the meta for the TX ships?
Back in the day, BBs were
USN was AA and accuracy
IJN was accuracy and overmatch
German was brawling

What is Russian and French?

And WTF is the deal with these TX cruisers/ battlecruisers, they seem like battleships in cruiser spots.
 

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So I have been playing and still cant figure out the meta

Whats the meta for the TX ships?
Back in the day, BBs were
USN was AA and accuracy
IJN was accuracy and overmatch
German was brawling

What is Russian and French?

And WTF is the deal with these TX cruisers/ battlecruisers, they seem like battleships in cruiser spots.
Russian is basicially IJN with Russian bias.

TX is currently fucked by it’s cruisers imo. Make it pretty unfun to play... smolensk is pretty much a TX kooter. Stalingrad is like a BB that can actually hit targets.

BBs at TX have trouble damaging the majority of cruisers, which is supposed to be their “job”. Smolensk you overpen, Puerto Rico doesn’t seem to have citadels, ect.
 
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