windows to 10.3.3 ok/ 10.3.3 to win xp no can do

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effen

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Hi its me again

If your an apple/windows kinda person i can use your help.
I'm having trouble getting from the g5 (10.3.3) to the windows machines. I have no problem going from windows xp and 2000 to the g5 but no luck the other. way keep getting server did not
respond ???

Work groups are the same and the g5 appears in the list of machines in the work group on the xp machine
And in computers near me on the w2k machines

Im un sure on the format for the go/ connect to server /address window.

I'v tried

ipaddress
"connection failed no response from server. please try again"

smb://ip address/machinename
"connection failed no response from server please try again"

smb://machinename/username/
"connection Failed no response from server please try again"

\\workgroup\machinename\
connection failed No response from server. Please try again"
 
Are you on a Domain? Active Directory?
Or are you just trying to connect to a SMB share?
 
this is what I do if I have to connect to my SMB shares
smb://192.168.1.4
You do not need to specify computer name or share. Just IP address
 
sigmend

peer to peer no domain

smb://internal ip " Connection Failed No response from server.
Please try again"

The machine at that ip address is WXP and sees the g5 in work group
 
sigmend

Now thats a good question. Where can i see the workgroup members in 10.3.3 ?

I can find it in windows but not sure where it is in mac ??
 
In finder
Open A finder window
Click Network on the left hand pane
Workgroup Name

Or in terminal
cd /Network/workgroup
 
I will be honest and say I have had issues networking period in 10.3.x and sometimes it will see my PC and others it won't :(
 
Hmmm we may be on to something here

in finder/network i get a servers icon
doubble click gets me
hard drive icon
g5.local

in terminal

cd/Network/workgroup gets me
:no such file or directory

hmmm maybe i didn't set up a workgroup ???

Hi gigglebyte at least you have sometimes mine has never seen my windows machines

in directory access smb configure there are 2 boxes
one titled

"Work group" i have my work group name here

the other

"WINS Server"

what if any thing goes in the WINS Server box ?
 
Can the Win 2k machines connect to the shares on the Win XP machine?

Perhaps the Win XP machine has a firewall enabled and the port for sharing isn't open?

Similarly are you running a firewall besides ipfw on the Mac? Perhaps it doesn't allow outgoing traffic for that and it can't connect because of that?

Have you tried to ping the Windows machine? Does that work?
 
I will also ask the VERY stupid question of do you have sharing turned on the Windows boxes as well? I am assuming you do but you know what happens when you assume
 
First I forgot to say thanks to every one for their input Thanks

TruGeek

not sure if this is right way to ping from apple.
I typed ping "ip address" in terminal and got the following response
some characters i cant reproduce and [[A[[A[[A
i can ping the g5 from the xp machine

firewall i have zone alarm on windoez machines but i have tried with it turned off and no difference

not sure about firewall on g5 but i do have file vault turned on

gigglebyte good question re windoze file shareing
yes its turned on or the win machines couldnt talk to each other.

3 win machines have gigabyte cards on gigabyte switch the g5 is on the same switch

Question does hard drive format come into play here the win machines are fat 32
because i also have a win 98 machine on this net
 
To find out about the firewall go to:

System Preferences -> Sharing -> Firewall

and see if it is turned on. This shouldn't affect anything if you are connecting to the Windows machine though, just the other way around. I was mainly wondering if you had another firewall such as Firewalk X 2 or Brickhouse (well, Brickhouse technically isn't another one since is uses ipfw too... but you know what I mean) that monitors (and can block) outgoing requests.

In order to ping I use the following command:

ping -nc 5 the.ip.to.ping

where the.ip.to.ping is the IP address you want to ping. ;) This will send 5 packets to the IP specified and won't try to look up hostnames which simplifies the process. Weird characters is a sign that something is very wrong. It is hard to say what but I might consider reinstalling OS X if I was getting this behavior.

The file system does not come into play at all. Such things are basically transparent with the file sharing since the file sharing compensates for that automatically. Besides, the Mac can read both Fat32 and NTFS shares (and more) so this wouldn't be a problem anyways.
 
ping 5 packets sent 5 packets recived 0 packet loss

firewall off

:confused:
ps: when this is cleared up i'm sure its gonna be a DUH ? ID10t error
"idiot" error
 
Something else you can try is to hook the Mac directly up to the PC with a crossover cable. Just plug it in between the two NICs and see if you can connect then. Take the rest of the network out of the picture and see how that goes. Basically it is down to the point of try everything and see what works. ;) Unless we are all missing something obvious... :eek:
 
TG...you don't need a cross over cable with MDIX which all the newer comps have so the G5 will switch the one connecter internaly...see THIS article for more info
 
I know, I'm just in the habbit of saying "crossover cable" anyways. :) But, yes, it doesn't really matter.
 
will try direct cable tonight

7 messages makes pm box full ??? not full now
 
First I forgot to say thanks to every one for their input Thanks

TruGeek

not sure if this is right way to ping from apple.
I typed ping "ip address" in terminal and got the following response
some characters i cant reproduce and [[A[[A[[A
i can ping the g5 from the xp machine

firewall i have zone alarm on windoez machines but i have tried with it turned off and no difference

not sure about firewall on g5 but i do have file vault turned on

gigglebyte good question re windoze file shareing
yes its turned on or the win machines couldnt talk to each other.

3 win machines have gigabyte cards on gigabyte switch the g5 is on the same switch

Question does hard drive format come into play here the win machines are fat 32
because i also have a win 98 machine on this net
 
Originally posted by effen
Question does hard drive format come into play here the win machines are fat 32
because i also have a win 98 machine on this net
Click to expand...
No, Harddrive format does not matter
That is why you can have a Linux box with a terabyte in it and connect to it with windows and mac boxes
 
You don't get any response pinging from the G5 to the Win XP box? That would tell me the G5 is either not connected to the network, or the Win XP box has some firewall turned on. Are you using DHCP or static ip addresses? Does everything have the same subnet address? (I've been burned on that one a couple of times) One more thing OS X has a nice gui for pinging and stuff built in. Go to the HD --> Applications --> Utilities --> Network Utility. It has a built in netstat, ping, lookup, traceroute, whois, finger, portscan. Now that I think about it try doing a portscan on the winxp box (use the ip) see what that shows as being open.
 
ShimmyT

your right thats a nice utility ping ok 10 sent 10 recived

15 ports show up on port scan not sure what port I'm looking for ??

subnet mask on both 255.255.255.0

Sharp

My PM box should be ok now thanks for link
 
ShimmyT

your right thats a nice utility ping ok 10 sent 10 recived

15 ports show up on port scan not sure what port I'm looking for ??

Sharp

My PM box should be ok now thanks for link
 
(stops pounding head against wall to type message wipes away blood from wall, starts beating head again)

This is getting ridiculous. Now I have installed vnc for mac os x
same thing the windows machines xp Home, w2k pro, w98 all just slide right in and start opening files on the g5

Going from the g5 to any of the windows machines with vnc results in an instantious connection denied error.

F%$# !!!

:mad: getting really pissed of all machines in danger of being shot
 
last night I had no problems connecting to my XP box...I thought I was going to when I go the message saying the original item could not be found (my XP HD) but sure enough it poped up on my desktop and was able to pull a few files off....I have no idea what happened in 10.3 to the networking but it does suck hind tit in a big way...one thing I would LOVE to see put in is a freaking refresh button because if you can't see a machine that you KNOW is on the network (have issues getting my iBook and production machine to see eachother sometimes as well) there is no real way to refresh it and try to make it look at the network again and you just have to wait....sigh....
 
SOLVED ! SOLVED !

I suspected it would be an "eye d ten t" error.

Caps ?? ARGH

In network 2 instances of the work group appeared ?

"WORKGROUPNAME" and "workgroupname"
I checked and some machine were in caps (the g5), some were in lower case the (pc's).

When I made them all upper case I can now connect.
 
All I gotta say is that's weird as all get out. I've never heard of all of the systems needing to be all caps or all lowercase. Same workgroup, yes, subnet yes. But oh well at least it works.
 
technicaly they were in a different workgroup...that is a good one to keep in mind as well...thanks for the update
 
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