Windows Server 2022 posted to MVLS

The Cobra

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Hi all, I had to grab a key for Windows for an emergency laptop build I am doing for one of our new teachers that we just hired. We are a Server 2016/19 shop running 10 VMs and two Physical Datacenter 2016 servers. I was planning on upgrading our 2016 Datacenter servers to 2019 over XMAS until I saw that Server 2022 was just posted!!! Anyone use it yet? I wonder if I can use it in place of Windows 11 not being supported on my Intel 5960x CPU.

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I was hoping this meant LTSC 2021 was up, but it's not yet.

A couple years ago, using Windows Server gained some popularity for desktop use. Generally, it's not recommended though as it requires a lot of tweaking to get it similar to a desktop experience.

Also, unless you are counting the CPU of that desktop in your core licensing renewal, getting a key from work at using it at home is unethical.
 

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I was hoping this meant LTSC 2021 was up, but it's not yet.

A couple years ago, using Windows Server gained some popularity for desktop use. Generally, it's not recommended though as it requires a lot of tweaking to get it similar to a desktop experience.

Also, unless you are counting the CPU of that desktop in your core licensing renewal, getting a key from work at using it at home is unethical.
The Windows server variety have been fantastic alternatives to desktop os for a few generations now. Anything past 2016 takes minimal tweaking to work well (less tweaking then to remove much of what makes Windows 10 a pita). Driver support is identical with the exception of a bit more work for the driver installers that get upset when ran on a server os.

Microsoft offers pretty generous trials for Windows server if your interested in testing it. Spin it up in a VM and give it a go.

For company usr it may be worth allowing it to mature a bit however. It appears to be VERY similar to 2019 or win 10 so most applications should be fine.
 

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The Windows server variety have been fantastic alternatives to desktop os for a few generations now. Anything past 2016 takes minimal tweaking to work well (less tweaking then to remove much of what makes Windows 10 a pita). Driver support is identical with the exception of a bit more work for the driver installers that get upset when ran on a server os.

Microsoft offers pretty generous trials for Windows server if your interested in testing it. Spin it up in a VM and give it a go.

For company usr it may be worth allowing it to mature a bit however. It appears to be VERY similar to 2019 or win 10 so most applications should be fine.

Just loaded it up on a VM on my desktop and it is basically a big service pack for Server with a bunch of under the hood features. The Windows 11 GUI is missing from it. And from what I have read, they are locking Server 22 into the LTSC model that was used in previous releases.

We've become virtual with most of our stuff. Our AD is linked to Azure now with round robin logins and password syncing for Office 365, One drive for profiles/file locations and old fashioned mapped drives for some users that we require local files to be onsite. Everything else that teachers require are all web based and use Chrome/Firefox or Edge. We have phased out all Internet Explorer from our entire network. Our desktops/laptops run W10 Education or Pro with Office 365 installed along with some users running Acrobat Pro. I keep all updates one month behind for everything. Our two Physical servers are running Datacenter 2016 and our VMs that run AD, Printers and file services are all Server 2019. I'll spin up a VM at work tomorrow to install 2022 as an AD machine to play with. But so far, this won't affect us.

I've run various Server versions at home for a long time and since 2016, very few tweaks are needed to run as a desktop OS.
 
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The Windows server variety have been fantastic alternatives to desktop os for a few generations now. Anything past 2016 takes minimal tweaking to work well (less tweaking then to remove much of what makes Windows 10 a pita). Driver support is identical with the exception of a bit more work for the driver installers that get upset when ran on a server os.

Microsoft offers pretty generous trials for Windows server if your interested in testing it. Spin it up in a VM and give it a go.

For company usr it may be worth allowing it to mature a bit however. It appears to be VERY similar to 2019 or win 10 so most applications should be fine.
I do agree that the 'Desktop experience' Feature the past few versions has made things a little better, and is better than what was included with 2008. The reason I don't recommend it to people is because it's hard to get legally (affordable) - just as I don't suggest to run LTSC on desktop at home, even though I use it at work on my desktop. It's too difficult for non-business users to get legally, so why bother? Plus, the differences are negligible.
 
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I wonder if I can use it in place of Windows 11 not being supported on my Intel 5960x CPU.

I'm running Windows 11 just fine on my X99 / 5820k system right now. It would require far less effort to do the one-time bypass during the Windows 11 install than try to convert Server 2019 or 2022 into a desktop OS. Windows 11 also has a lot of nice features like Auto-HDR, and Android app support is coming soon which I believe will quickly become a "must-have" feature. I'm not sure to what extent you would have access to those features using a converted server OS.
 

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I'm running Windows 11 just fine on my X99 / 5820k system right now. It would require far less effort to do the one-time bypass during the Windows 11 install than try to convert Server 2019 or 2022 into a desktop OS. Windows 11 also has a lot of nice features like Auto-HDR, and Android app support is coming soon which I believe will quickly become a "must-have" feature. I'm not sure to what extent you would have access to those features using a converted server OS.
My X99 won't run W11 for whatever reason. I've just given up on W11 so far...
 

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UPDATE: Powered up my first Domain Controller under 2022 (Upgraded from 2019 in a VM) No FOrestprep or Domainprep to run for this!!!! The upgrade was flawless. This AD machine doesn't have any of the FSMO roles and just does DNS lookups. No errors either. The upgrade took 20 mins.
 

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Another update: upgraded another DC that contained the FSMO roles. Flawless upgrade. Users didn’t notice at all. Going to do the final DC after school is over with for the day.
 

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I created a new print server on 2022 and migrated the files from our old 2016 server to the 2022 edition. Raised the forest and domain levels to Server 2016. Not one issue. In all my years of doing upgrades and migrations of servers, this was by far the easiest and pain free. We now have a full 2022 Server environment.
 
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