ElectroPulse
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Hello, all!
I am spending the next 9-10 months at a low-budget Mission School outside the US. Still trying to get used to the super slow internet here...
Anyway, the computer teacher last year didn't know much about computers, so the network was in a shambles when I arrived. So, I am currently in the process of trying to overhaul it... It has been set up like a workgroup, all individual computers with two user accounts (student and administrator). There have already been students who have deleted other students' files, so this has to change in the next week or so.
Anyway, I have never dealt with anything newer than Windows Server 2008 R2, and even my experience with that and Windows Server 2003 was relegated to maintaining user lists, and just browsing through the menus to see what all it could do (rather than dealing with the purchasing of, or installing of, the OSs).
So, on to my questions... I have been reading about the differences between Windows Server 2012 and Windows Server 2008 R2, and I am leaning toward trying to obtain Windows Server 2012 (that and the fact that it may be harder to get 2008 R2 anyway). However, I am a bit confused about licensing...
First off, let me start out with what I have in mind: Since we don't have any servers that were initially designed to be used as servers (just a regular computer that had Untangle installed on it (switched to pfSense due to cost of required features)), I would like to have a backup server ready to swap in any time needed. So here we go: Two computers, running the (what appears to be) free Server 2012 Hyper-V, which will be running 2 VMs: 1 will be Windows Server 2012, and the other will be pfSense. Each will have 3 (or maybe 4 to mirror the OS) HDDs in them: 1 (or 2) smaller one(s) for the OS, and the other two would probably be 1tb drives mirrored in RAID 1 for student files.
So, how would this work? If we are only using one server at a time, and the only one is only there to be a backup in case the primary server dies, are we required to have two separate licenses? (I am not familiar with how Windows Server licensing works) Also, I am a bit confused as to how Windows Server 2012 licensing works with the CAL... We have about 130 students, so with staff I am figuring about 150-160 user accounts (that would be an absolute maximum... I am envisioning 100 being a more realistic number, since not every student is in a computer class, nor would they need to access the computers). What version of 2012 would we need to get, and I'm guessing we would need to purchase extra CALs for the additional users?
And how do the CALs work? Are they for individual servers, or are they per-organization? If we had a backup server, would I need to purchase additional CALs just for the backup server?
Also, I ran across a website (http://www.creationengine.com/html/ld.lasso?ld=46)... Is it really as simple (and cheap) as it appears? $232 for license, then an additional $1 per user? (Oh, and it looks like per device as well....) Or is there something else to it that I'm not aware of?
Now, another question that I have that is unrelated to licensing: What sort of capabilities are there for using one VM at a time, while the other is just being mirrored? For example, I have two VMs on each server (one VM would Server 2012, the other would be pfSense). If I wanted to have the primary pfSense server be Server 1, and the primary Server 2012 (with AD, file storage, etc.) be Server 2, would this be possible? This is all new to me (I've never dealt with virtualization), so I am trying to learn everything on the fly as quickly as possible.
And as a side note, the computers that have been donated here all came with Windows 7 Professional, so connecting them to the domain will not be an issue.
Thanks in advance! Any help or advice that can be provided would be greatly appreciated
I am spending the next 9-10 months at a low-budget Mission School outside the US. Still trying to get used to the super slow internet here...
Anyway, the computer teacher last year didn't know much about computers, so the network was in a shambles when I arrived. So, I am currently in the process of trying to overhaul it... It has been set up like a workgroup, all individual computers with two user accounts (student and administrator). There have already been students who have deleted other students' files, so this has to change in the next week or so.
Anyway, I have never dealt with anything newer than Windows Server 2008 R2, and even my experience with that and Windows Server 2003 was relegated to maintaining user lists, and just browsing through the menus to see what all it could do (rather than dealing with the purchasing of, or installing of, the OSs).
So, on to my questions... I have been reading about the differences between Windows Server 2012 and Windows Server 2008 R2, and I am leaning toward trying to obtain Windows Server 2012 (that and the fact that it may be harder to get 2008 R2 anyway). However, I am a bit confused about licensing...
First off, let me start out with what I have in mind: Since we don't have any servers that were initially designed to be used as servers (just a regular computer that had Untangle installed on it (switched to pfSense due to cost of required features)), I would like to have a backup server ready to swap in any time needed. So here we go: Two computers, running the (what appears to be) free Server 2012 Hyper-V, which will be running 2 VMs: 1 will be Windows Server 2012, and the other will be pfSense. Each will have 3 (or maybe 4 to mirror the OS) HDDs in them: 1 (or 2) smaller one(s) for the OS, and the other two would probably be 1tb drives mirrored in RAID 1 for student files.
So, how would this work? If we are only using one server at a time, and the only one is only there to be a backup in case the primary server dies, are we required to have two separate licenses? (I am not familiar with how Windows Server licensing works) Also, I am a bit confused as to how Windows Server 2012 licensing works with the CAL... We have about 130 students, so with staff I am figuring about 150-160 user accounts (that would be an absolute maximum... I am envisioning 100 being a more realistic number, since not every student is in a computer class, nor would they need to access the computers). What version of 2012 would we need to get, and I'm guessing we would need to purchase extra CALs for the additional users?
And how do the CALs work? Are they for individual servers, or are they per-organization? If we had a backup server, would I need to purchase additional CALs just for the backup server?
Also, I ran across a website (http://www.creationengine.com/html/ld.lasso?ld=46)... Is it really as simple (and cheap) as it appears? $232 for license, then an additional $1 per user? (Oh, and it looks like per device as well....) Or is there something else to it that I'm not aware of?
Now, another question that I have that is unrelated to licensing: What sort of capabilities are there for using one VM at a time, while the other is just being mirrored? For example, I have two VMs on each server (one VM would Server 2012, the other would be pfSense). If I wanted to have the primary pfSense server be Server 1, and the primary Server 2012 (with AD, file storage, etc.) be Server 2, would this be possible? This is all new to me (I've never dealt with virtualization), so I am trying to learn everything on the fly as quickly as possible.
And as a side note, the computers that have been donated here all came with Windows 7 Professional, so connecting them to the domain will not be an issue.
Thanks in advance! Any help or advice that can be provided would be greatly appreciated