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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windows-11/
"Leaked version" and "OEM specs", yet it states that requirement on Microsoft's official documentation... you must really like that Flavor Aid.
Edited the post, and yes, we will see.
You know, if it turns out that individuals find a way around this and do successfully install it, despite Microsoft's TPM 2.0 requirements, that would actually be quite satisfying.
both of us have installed it on systems that dont have tpm 2, mine was 1.2 and hes installed on 2 system without tpm altogether, no "mods". thats why we're saying it will probably change or that the lists are for oems to be win11 certified or something. but its all assumptions at this point.
Which no one at the moment really gives a damn about because it's a leaked unofficial beta that people got their hands on before the announcement. That you can currently install it on hardware which doesn't meet the official requirements means nothing. Previous requirements were CPU, RAM and storage so it was easy to install on hardware which didn't meet the specified requirements. MS didn't put in a check so you had to have a 1Ghz+ CPU so it was possible to install it on a 750mhz CPU. MS didn't check to see if you actually had 4GB of RAM which allowed you to install it on a system with 1GB.
Actually yes, we do care. A lot of us are still running older chips in secondary or even primary machines. My HTPC, for example, runs a 4970 (overkill as it is) which I will certainly want to move to Win11 for the features.
Then keep using windows 10 - it’s getting updates for years after the win 11 release. Or, go buy a raspberry pi 4 with an aluminum case for $50 and run Xbian w/ kodi. The benefit to the pi 4 is that it will idle at less than 2w, as opposed to >100 for 10+ year old gear.
I'd argue that if the masses adopt Linux, user error would be 1000 times worse than Windows. For people who have no interest in learning all the terminal commands or reading 10 man pages everytime they want to do anything in their PC, will find the most obnoxious and obscure ways to compromise their security in the interest of convenience.
No, but some here will swear Windows 11 will be better than sliced bread.
Don't even need that. Firmware based ones work fine on any 10 year old Intel/AMD proc (tested back to sandy bridge) if your motherboard exposes the feature.
Right, because Bing was eating Google's lunch on search?
Hey, how 'bout that Apple T2 chip that will render your soldered-down SSD unusable if the T2 dies?
Obviously my snarkiness aside, your computer from 4 years ago, 3 years ago, or whatever, is currently running the same, will continue to run the same for at least another 4 years, running the operating system for the era during which it was built; the Windows 10 era. That hasn't changed. You can never fully future proof and there will always be something that changes, in this case a hardware requirement for security.
That is simply not true. While older machines may require a $30 part to upgrade to Windows 11, there's nothing keeping you from continuing to run Windows 10 on your existing hardware for ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.
A $30 module won't do it when you also need a newer CPU. I already have TPM 2.
If you think spending thousands to build a new PC is even a remotely better option than adding a TPM module to your existing machine for $30, chances are you were already planning an upgrade.
What are you talking about? Why would you need a new CPU?
Remember Windows Palladium? Its a product of that. To make windows more secure.
Right. I mean, I can understand certain use cases for the extra security, but why require it?
TPM 2.0 is an essential component for virtualizing and isolating applications, there are methods to simulate proper application isolation without it but they are not nearly as good and more often than not have measurable performance impacts. Using TPM also negates most forms of malware/spyware/...etc that currently exists on the windows platform and would render those infections to the current application set only which would be cleared with closing the application or at worst a reboot. Apple's equivalent of TPM, the T2 chip, does a large part to their security and privacy efforts and at this point gives them a serious leg up on just about all other platforms in terms of the overall security. The requirement for TPM 2.0 over the much more widespread 1.2 is probably because of recent discoveries into a series of flaws in 1.2 that leave it vulnerable to attack. At this stage, 1.2 should not be used unless it is your only option as it is still better than nothing but only just.
use the real tool: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/windows-11#pchealthcheck
it will probably still work with the installer. i installed it fine on an i5-6500 w/tpm 1.2 and secureboot and you have 2.0.I did use that too. It said processor unsupported
