Windows 10 Web Market Share Overtakes Windows 7

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  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

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    According to NetMarketShare's latest statistics, Windows 10's market share has finally overtaken Windows 7. The Steam userbase hit this critical crossover point in 2016, and Statcounter claims that Windows 10 usage was higher this time last year. But NetMarketShare claims they measure market share, not raw traffic colume like Statcounter. Together, Windows 8 and 8.1 only account for about 6% of the market, while the various versions of OSX command a 10.65% market share, and Linux accounts for a mere 2.78%. Thanks to VentureBeat for the tip.

    We collect data from the browsers of site visitors to our exclusive on-demand network of analytics and social bookmarking products. We count sessions to our network sites, which are defined as a user active on a site with no more than a 30 minute inactive period. A user can have multiple sessions per day. The data is compiled from approximately 100 million valid sessions per month, widely distributed over thousands of websites. The information published is an aggregation of the data from this network of hosted websites. In addition, we classify 430+ referral sources identified as search engines. Aggregate traffic referrals from these engines are summarized and reported monthly. The statistics for search engines include both organic and sponsored referrals.
     
  2. LeftSide

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    I wonder if the Government shutdown has any affect.
    ~ 500k employees not using windows 7 for the past week.
     
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    The sky is falling! Oh wait, I can still boot into any OS I like. I measure my "raw traffic colume" every day. But seriously, why is this surprising when new processors are unsupported? No OEM that I'm aware of offers an alternative for the masses. We already knew this. One thing that is interesting is how the graph is so flat lined.
     
  4. chockomonkey

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    So died this mean msft won't be extending 7 support? T_T
     
  5. blkt

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    January 14, 2020 then if you are a Volume License customer you will have to pay a monthly fee for security updates on each computer, which will increase every year ending January 2023.
     
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    Let's see, 500K employees watching pron and surfing the web at home instead of work? Yup, that could have an impact. ;)
     
  7. Mohonri

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    Windows 10 is now at about 40%, 3.5 years after release. That's less than 1% per month. And that's despite Microsoft giving it away and default-upgrading people.

    By comparison, Windows 7 took just over two years to get to 40%, even with Vista at 11%. Right now, 8/8.1 only hold about 7%. XP also took the crown about 2 years after release.

    This tells me that a combination of two things is happening:
    1) people aren't buying new PCs, because hardware hit the "adequate" point long ago and stagnated (thanks, Intel) and because of the shift to mobile
    2) Windows 10 isn't much of a draw, whether it's the adequacy of Win7 or people's objection to what MS have done with Win10
     
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    Thank you for providing actual meaningful context to the story.
     
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    Or that Windows10 is superior to Windows7 in every way and the few things that people still complain about are quick and simple options to toggle in settings.. Oh shoot, no no, yes 7 is da best and XP is still okay.
     
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    Not to derail too far, but 'quick and simple options to toggle' made me laugh pretty good. You literally have to navigate through their new settings screen to get to the old areas in order to actually do what you want to do.
     
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    My popcorn is ready, but I'll probably throw it out later after it becomes stale.
     
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    If 10 was so superior, maybe it wouldn't have taken as long? BTW, tell me where to toggle off the telemetry. Can I toggle off updates, as in permanently? I didn't think so. I think your thinking the quick and easy toggling of yourself carries in 10 but sadly it does not. :(
     
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    So much better than Win 7 that the 1809 update will not install on my main system (Ryzen 2700x) system. It fails at 58% and all the update said is that it failed. Have absolutely no clue as to why it failed. Pretty much means I'll have to do a clean install. So, at the moment, I'm shooting 50% success rate (my laptop updated fine). Now it'll be interesting to see if the rest of my computers update ok (only 9 machines to go!).
     
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    I am surprised no one has pointed out that Windows XP has more than Linux, according to those figures. :D ;) Ultimately, I do not care, as long as I turn on my machine in the morning and it works, I will continue using it.
     
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    Seems they are collection data from browser use and search engine use. So basically desktop's dropping all servers. In that context I don't think it shocks anyone. But you could replace Win XP with a WIndows friendly linux for those users and they wouldn't hardly notice. If I knew someone still on XP and its basically a browser/e-mail machine I would upgrade them to a Window-eque flavor of Linux in a heartbeat.
     
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    Not sure if trolling...

    If it's a quick and simple option, people wouldn't be complaining about it. On the other hand, here are a few of my complaints:
    1) I would like to restart my computer to install updates when I'm good and ready. I currently have about 35 windows open, all of which I use frequently. A reboot costs me half an hour of lost productivity as I have to restore that state. Windows 10 doesn't work for me there.
    2) I would like to turn off all telemetry. I understand why it's beneficial for MS to have access to it, but let me make that choice for myself.
    3) I don't like bloat. It's not "quick and simple" to remove the bloat from Win10, and Microsoft have a history of reinstalling stuff people have removed.
    4) I neither want nor need a Microsoft Account. Avoiding that step is decidedly counter-intuitive.
    5) I don't want a vitual assistant. Is it "quick and simple" to remove Cortana from Windows 10? Hmmm?
     
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    I just don't understand why you and so many complain about these things yet I found a way to work with them and enjoy the benefits rather than adapt the grief that a prior version was better.

    To answer your arguing points:
    1. This is a setting.
    2. This is a setting.
    3. What is bloat? It literally takes 5 minutes to download a tool to disable autoruns or go and uninstall something that you don't want. The bloat you're referring to may be from the third party that put the computer together rather than Windows.
    4. This is a setting. I have never, ever, used a M$ account.
    5. This is a setting. Yes, it is quick and easy. You can disable it even quicker.

    I understand Windows has some bloat things that are annoying and are required to run in the background, but honestly if that's the thing that bugs you then you should be using Linux to begin with.
     
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    I'm afraid you're either incorrect or not understanding my point in all five cases:

    1) I may not be good and ready to restart my computer for a couple months or more. Windows only lets you defer for 30 days.
    2) You're incorrect, unless you're talking LTSB. No, it's not possible to turn off all telemetry. You can opt for "reduced," but thats not what I said.
    3) OneDrive, Cortana, Windows Store, etc. If it were simple, it'd be in the "uninstall programs" control panel. The fact that you have to download a 3rd party tool to remove them means it's not quick and simple.
    4) I had to do a google search to figure out how to skip that step. Maybe the dialog has changed since I did it, but it was very much buried when I set it up.
    5) You're incorrect, unless you're talking LTSB. You can "disable" Cortana (for varying definitions of "disable"), but you can't remove it entirely.
     
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    It just sounds like you're really nit picking an OS functionality.. Cortana and OneDrive are far too integrated to have a simple uninstall, as much as I'd like one as well. It's what you get when you have an advanced OS that works for the average user. Don't get me wrong, I know that no one uses Cortana. But also this was a functionality to appeal to the new trend. I have the Cortana services disabled and it doesn't even run, but on a default setup it still doesn't use up much resource. I honestly have more of a problem with Google's updaters and such tasks that make no sense in running at all times. At least Cortana ties into a useful functionality of search - which Windows10 has really advanced from their prior versions.

    I didn't mean to single you out, I was really just saying generally - Yeah in an ideal world no one should google things to get their brand new system working the way they want and without any unwanted functions. But in the real world it's not that far off, granted that Windows allows you a lot more customization than Macbooks do. And if you want true customization and simplicity, then Linux is your answer.
     
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    99.9% of us agree with you. Don't waste your time on the other 0.1%

    Following Windows 10 development is like watching a loved one succumb to Alzheimer's.
    there's nothing you can do to stop eithers slide into oblivion
     
  21. Mohonri

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    Cortana and OneDrive are NOT far too integrated, as evidenced by the fact that 1) you can remove OneDrive (and the Windows Store, and most of the rest of the bloat) by delving into PowerShell and 2) the Education versions of Win10 come without Cortana. I understand why Microsoft wants to include them by default, and while I'm mildly annoyed by it, what really bugs me is that there's no opt out.

    If I wanted to nit pick, I'd start with Win10's aesthetics. The window styles are just ewwwww.
    but, but, but someone on the internet is wrong!
     
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