Windows 10 Warning: Anger At Microsoft Rises With Serious New Failure

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Whelp.....another item broke (no big surprise), but here's the interesting tidbit: Windows 10 search for local files wasn't working when they suffered a server-side problem.

MS: "We are aware of a temporary server-side issue causing Windows search to show a blank box."

"In an open letter to new Windows head Panos Panay, Susan ‘Patch Lady’ Bradley was similarly sceptical, noting that today “we all found out that our local search boxes are somehow dependent on some service working at Microsoft.” She attacked the company for a lack of transparency and gave it a maximum ‘Pinocchio score’ for a lack of trust."

Never fear......leave it to the user to hack the registry in order to rectify the issue (see the end of the article)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2020/02/06/windows-10-warning-serious-failure-provokes-questions-and-anger/#639a0bb46a52
 
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"Can't believe this! No search. Broken. What?!"

I hear it's because of something down on the Internet.

"That's it! You mean, I can't search my LOCAL OS because of some mistake on the Internet?!!? I've had it with Microsoft!"

I've been running Linux as my desktop for 20+ years. It does the job.

"No way. I'm not leaving Windows."

Well, there ya go...
 

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"Can't believe this! No search. Broken. What?!"

I hear it's because of something down on the Internet.

"That's it! You mean, I can't search my LOCAL OS because of some mistake on the Internet?!!? I've had it with Microsoft!"

I've been running Linux as my desktop for 20+ years. It does the job.

"No way. I'm not leaving Windows."

Well, there ya go...
Some of us PC game and don't have a choice.
 

cjcox

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Some of us PC game and don't have a choice.
There's always a choice. Buy a host just for gaming and do real stuff on something more reliable/friendly/trustworthy? (just an idea) Btw, this isn't something I personally would do... I'd avoid the platform altogether... but as you said, you feel "you don't have a choice." I've managed to avoid those chains.
 

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Huh, well that explains my experience the last two days.

Now, back to my normal life, it'll get fixed eventually.
 

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God bless Susan Bradley for having a Romney moment and speaking truth to power. It was plainly obvious MS was spying and data collecting even local searches. Cortana always the first thing I rip out of the installation ISO. Because post-install if you try to delete/hide Cortana it will just worm it's way back. Some will swear "you can just hide it" but it's bullshit - it still lurks in the process list, monitoring and logging and beaming your keystrokes back to MSFT.

Voidtools makes Search Everything which is amazing and real-time fast, and what Windows native search should have been all along.
Serious question, but how do you know M$ isn't still logging everything you do?
 

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Oh. Go ahead an enlighten me, then.
It was hilarious because a statement like that about a luxury like PC gaming is ridiculous. If a company is taking advantage of you and you know it but you feel like you have no choice but to play your games anyway then I don't know what to tell you other than that you always have a choice and making a poor one because the alternative is boring or inconvenient doesn't make it any less of a choice.
 

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Oh. Go ahead an enlighten me, then.
Gaming on Linux is 100% possible for quite a large number of games but don't let him fool you, your average joe gamer isn't installing Linux and booting up all their existing games with the ease they can with Windows. Its also not an option for me. If I have to touch the terminal a single time, its not happening.
 

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It was hilarious because a statement like that about a luxury like PC gaming is ridiculous. If a company is taking advantage of you and you know it but you feel like you have no choice but to play your games anyway then I don't know what to tell you other than that you always have a choice and making a poor one because the alternative is boring or inconvenient doesn't make it any less of a choice.
Sorry, but I enjoy PC gaming. I should just say fuck it because scary Microsoft? I don't see any alternative if the alternative is to not do something you enjoy. We live to enjoy life, not to live scared. Do you have a cell phone? I do. You get taken advantage of there, too. This is the world we live in. If you care so much and want to do something about it, change the laws that surround this shit.
 

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Gaming on Linux is 100% possible for quite a large number of games but don't let him fool you, your average joe gamer isn't installing Linux and booting up all their existing games with the ease they can with Windows. Its also not an option for me. If I have to touch the terminal a single time, its not happening.
I've gamed on Linux in the past and it was acceptable but I was limited to Source games on Steam. I'm not interested in running Wine due to headaches and performance issues.
 

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Sorry, but I enjoy PC gaming. I should just say fuck it because scary Microsoft? I don't see any alternative if the alternative is to not do something you enjoy. We live to enjoy life, not to live scared. Do you have a cell phone? I do. You get taken advantage of there, too. This is the world we live in. If you care so much and want to do something about it, change the laws that surround this shit.
I don't believe I stated what you should or shouldn't do. You said you didn't have a choice and I stated otherwise. Have fun with your worldview... 👋
 
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I don't believe I stated what you should or shouldn't do. You said you didn't have a choice and I stated otherwise. Have fun with your worldview... 👋
We do technically have a choice, but we have determined that it is not worth it due to the headache it causes. Some people play games to relax, hard to do that when you're troubleshooting why linux doesn't work with game X.
I like the idea of ripping cortana, etc out of the ISO, I haven't tried that yet, but wouldn't it come back once you update to the latest build of windows (1909, 2003 next?)?
 

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We do technically have a choice, but we have determined that it is not worth it due to the headache it causes. Some people play games to relax, hard to do that when you're troubleshooting why linux doesn't work with game X.
I like the idea of ripping cortana, etc out of the ISO, I haven't tried that yet, but wouldn't it come back once you update to the latest build of windows (1909, 2003 next?)?
There's some scripts, vdi optimization tools, and other things floating around that can remove Cortana, MS Store, etc from your install after the fact.
 

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We do technically have a choice, but we have determined that it is not worth it due to the headache it causes. Some people play games to relax, hard to do that when you're troubleshooting why linux doesn't work with game X.
You guys seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying it is inconvenient but you should use Linux because they don't big brother you like M$. I'm saying the whole idea of PC gaming in general is a luxury and if you care about something a company is doing that is obviously crappy and affects all of us you can just stop the gaming entirely or go offline or any other number of intermediary responses that doesn't just let them continue their crusade and bide their time until the minor outrage from the few people who paid attention dies down and it becomes the new norm.


Just like anything else making real change takes effort and usually it isn't convenient. I'm the type of stubborn that I could never play another video game in my lifetime if it meant spiting the people trying to take advantage of me in any meaningful way. I'm hopeful that type of situation presents itself so my deep-seated rage against overreach into personal freedom can be put to use even if it is just to make some people realize that you do, in fact, always have a choice and hopefully make them cognizant of the choices they ARE making when they don't realize it.
 

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I just realized something: Linux gamers are like vegans, they can't be happy until everyone else is converted.

As for search not working in windows, that's not news, that's the norm, I'm surprised when it actually works.
 
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You guys seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying it is inconvenient but you should use Linux because they don't big brother you like M$. I'm saying the whole idea of PC gaming in general is a luxury and if you care about something a company is doing that is obviously crappy and affects all of us you can just stop the gaming entirely or go offline or any other number of intermediary responses that doesn't just let them continue their crusade and bide their time until the minor outrage from the few people who paid attention dies down and it becomes the new norm.


Just like anything else making real change takes effort and usually it isn't convenient. I'm the type of stubborn that I could never play another video game in my lifetime if it meant spiting the people trying to take advantage of me in any meaningful way. I'm hopeful that type of situation presents itself so my deep-seated rage against overreach into personal freedom can be put to use even if it is just to make some people realize that you do, in fact, always have a choice and hopefully make them cognizant of the choices they ARE making when they don't realize it.
I see your point and am not missing it at all, yes I agree PC gaming is a "luxury" (many definitions for that...)
I don't dislike Linux at all except for the fact that it doesn't have enough support to be "equivalent" to Windows as far as gaming TO ME. That's my opinion
I agree MS is pretty crappy, that's why I use O&O shutup 10. That's good enough for me. Also my opinion
I agree real change requires effort, but that requires the general public to put forth effort......... not opinion...
I could easily dual boot linux and windows, but that is too much effort for me. By the time I fire up Win 10 to play a game, I can't because I have to wait 15-30min for the game to "update", easier to just leave Win 10 running, so then why am I running linux lol.
I would rather have a stripped ISO and an expertly configured pfsense firewall than dual boot or only use Linux on my PC.
 
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You guys seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying it is inconvenient but you should use Linux because they don't big brother you like M$. I'm saying the whole idea of PC gaming in general is a luxury and if you care about something a company is doing that is obviously crappy and affects all of us you can just stop the gaming entirely or go offline or any other number of intermediary responses that doesn't just let them continue their crusade and bide their time until the minor outrage from the few people who paid attention dies down and it becomes the new norm.


Just like anything else making real change takes effort and usually it isn't convenient. I'm the type of stubborn that I could never play another video game in my lifetime if it meant spiting the people trying to take advantage of me in any meaningful way. I'm hopeful that type of situation presents itself so my deep-seated rage against overreach into personal freedom can be put to use even if it is just to make some people realize that you do, in fact, always have a choice and hopefully make them cognizant of the choices they ARE making when they don't realize it.
Many professional software packages also won't run on anything other than Windows or Mac OS X, and there's no way I'm running the latter steaming pile. Adobe Creative Cloud, Visual Studio, and most Autodesk software are a few that come to mind.
 

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You guys seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying it is inconvenient but you should use Linux because they don't big brother you like M$. I'm saying the whole idea of PC gaming in general is a luxury and if you care about something a company is doing that is obviously crappy and affects all of us you can just stop the gaming entirely or go offline or any other number of intermediary responses that doesn't just let them continue their crusade and bide their time until the minor outrage from the few people who paid attention dies down and it becomes the new norm.


Just like anything else making real change takes effort and usually it isn't convenient. I'm the type of stubborn that I could never play another video game in my lifetime if it meant spiting the people trying to take advantage of me in any meaningful way. I'm hopeful that type of situation presents itself so my deep-seated rage against overreach into personal freedom can be put to use even if it is just to make some people realize that you do, in fact, always have a choice and hopefully make them cognizant of the choices they ARE making when they don't realize it.
So many things that we use in our daily lives are luxuries. Are you going to stop using vehicles when they are mesh network connected and have black boxes?

You pick and choose what battles you fight. You want your personal freedoms, and I'm there with you. The problem is that it's give and take. We have people that want to be president that will restrict the use of facial recognition and, at the same time, will deplete our Second Amendment rights. I'd prefer to keep my Bill of Rights intact.
 

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Many professional software packages also won't run on anything other than Windows or Mac OS X, and there's no way I'm running the latter steaming pile. Adobe Creative Cloud, Visual Studio, and most Autodesk software are a few that come to mind.
equally many profession software packages do since the big vendors know that those who take computing seriously and on large scales will use linux... Matlab, Ansys, ModelSim, NX... the list continues
 

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*nix as a viable option for everyone's desktop is an effin joke, because its users have no clue on how to support the clueless when things go wrong. I've been trying it since the 90s nothing has changed about its community.

It's impossible to support any OS where Googling an error message often ends up with essentially "gEt gOoD WiNdoZe NeWb" on forums.

I can't figure out nothing on my Freenas box when I have issues for this very reason. I just let it run degraded for months until swapping out some drives made the errors go away.

The use Linux you idiot, go back to Windows you idiot cycle never ends.
 

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How many would I need to make that realization?
I think the tables turned from *nix gamers being the annoying ones by endlessly advocating for it to the people annoyed by it endlessly complaining about the *nix guys before anyone even shows up.
 

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*nix as a viable option for everyone's desktop is an effin joke, because its users have no clue on how to support the clueless when things go wrong. I've been trying it since the 90s nothing has changed about its community.

It's impossible to support any OS where Googling an error message often ends up with essentially "gEt gOoD WiNdoZe NeWb" on forums.

I can't figure out nothing on my Freenas box when I have issues for this very reason. I just let it run degraded for months until swapping out some drives made the errors go away.

The use Linux you idiot, go back to Windows you idiot cycle never ends.
Sounds like you should use OSX
 

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I guess I'm old-fashioned by using File Explorer.
When trying to run an app that I already know the name of, I will type it into windows search so I don't have to navigate the menu. This was not working and I had to find all applications by hand, which is mildy annoying, but in no way a show stopper. Their menu is crap and I hate navigating it and always rely on just typing it in rather than finding it. For this to break due to some odd service that has nothing to do with my local files is really poor. Even if said service was down and they wanted to collect data for some reason, it still shouldn't stop people from using their computers normally.
 

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I think the tables turned from *nix gamers being the annoying ones by endlessly advocating for it to the people annoyed by it endlessly complaining about the *nix guys before anyone even shows up.
But linux did come up, so I don't know what is your point. Let's get back on topic, whatever that is.
 

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When trying to run an app that I already know the name of, I will type it into windows search so I don't have to navigate the menu. This was not working and I had to find all applications by hand, which is mildy annoying, but in no way a show stopper. Their menu is crap and I hate navigating it and always rely on just typing it in rather than finding it. For this to break due to some odd service that has nothing to do with my local files is really poor. Even if said service was down and they wanted to collect data for some reason, it still shouldn't stop people from using their computers normally.
I guess using desktop shortcuts and taskbar pins is also old-fashioned now?
 
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