I don't even get the point of trying to "upgrade" when the OS uses an image based installation. It's just going to make a mess.I sure hope it's easy to do clean installs.
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I don't even get the point of trying to "upgrade" when the OS uses an image based installation. It's just going to make a mess.I sure hope it's easy to do clean installs.
Citation needed. Because nowhere have I read that retail will be transferable. What is your assumption based on?
Citation needed. Because nowhere have I read that retail will be transferable. What is your assumption based on?
The concern is over Microsoft's specific language about "for the life of the device" - if they intend that only to apply to OEM keys, why mention it in a general presentation intended for a wide audience?
Think I'll be staying put on Windows 8.0 until we know for sure that Windows 10 won't require purchase of a new license if I want to upgrade my PC, or motherboard dies, or any number of legit issues that can arise.
while OEM is tied to a particular motherboard.
there were easy ways around that...I always used OEM versions of Windows and was always able to reformat and re-activate the OS...once you run out of 'activations' you just call the MS call center to re-activate...will this still apply with Windows 10 after the first year free upgrade period?
there were easy ways around that...I always used OEM versions of Windows and was always able to reformat and re-activate the OS...once you run out of 'activations' you just call the MS call center to re-activate...will this still apply with Windows 10 after the first year free upgrade period?
I'm fairly certain clarification will be provided prior to or on release. So, yes, it logically follows that you shouldn't upgrade until Windows 10 has been, uh, released.Think I'll be staying put on Windows 8.0 until we know for sure that Windows 10 won't require purchase of a new license if I want to upgrade my PC, or motherboard dies, or any number of legit issues that can arise.
It will likely do a windows.old thing.I don't even get the point of trying to "upgrade" when the OS uses an image based installation. It's just going to make a mess.
It will likely do a windows.old thing.
I think they mean they want some sort of clean install method with an upgrade key as long as you have some other way to prove eligibility. As well, this "free for a year upgrade" thing probably won't be able to clean install, so us OCD types will qualify for a free thing we can't really use. Cuz I just do not 'do' upgrades.
What they haven't answered is this:
Can I buy I nice retail copy of Win10 for a fixed price that I can install with nothing more intrusive then an email address to register my account against?
I don't want their software-as-a-service lark, and certainly will not be paying a subscription. I don't want a relationship with microsoft, i want a framework that allows me to install and run software which I deem useful/entertaining.
I imagine the same way you upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 10 now: Windows Update.I just saw that too. I wonder if you can do fresh installs of 10 with a 7 key. Because upgrading is for suckers.
The problem is that Cortana is now the search for Windows. If you disable Cortana you cannot use the Start Menu search like in Technical Preview.As long as you can disable it like in 8, I'm fine with that
I don't want a relationship with microsoft, i want a framework that allows me to install and run software which I deem useful/entertaining.
hehe, i take the point.
but i appreciate Windows7 requiring essentially no relationship between myself and MS
i can just about accept Win 8/8.1 requiring nothing more than an email address, as I can always create a separate email just for that purpose, as I do with google/android.
for all the flawed assumption that might be derived about privacy under these conditions, it is a compromise I can live with.
I'm not sure i can live with microsoft knowing the core of what is me online: email, credit card number, address, etc.
I imagine the same way you upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 10 now: Windows Update.
Once upgraded I would hope you could either back up the activation or extract a key (if they don't give you one) and do a clean install.
The problem is that Cortana is now the search for Windows. If you disable Cortana you cannot use the Start Menu search like in Technical Preview.
I suppose it would be helpful to search right from the task bar rather than clicking Start (I use the search a lot) but I absolutely want to be able to disable Cortana's "suggestions".
I have no relationship with Microsoft on my Windows 8.1 installation besides the ones where I want to have one. I sign in with a local account
Like I said, that's useless for me. When I install Windows, I wipe the entire OS drive clean and boot from an installation media. That breaks any kind of MS upgrade scenario entirely.When I had upgrade from 98 to XP, I had to put the 98 CD during XP installation, so it could verify that I owned an original disk. RIght now it will be propably like this, that first the tool examines your key, if it's valid, it let you download upgrade for clean install or possibly that upgrade will use your windows key.
Like I said, that's useless for me. When I install Windows, I wipe the entire OS drive clean and boot from an installation media. That breaks any kind of MS upgrade scenario entirely.
It's 2015, what am I gonna do, insert my original ISO?
So, is it "For the first year of availability, you get to upgrade for free," or is it,"You upgrade for the first year, free, then we charge you?"
I see if you go into Task Bar properties you can disable the search and remove the search box. if you click Start it brings it back. I suppose that's similar to Windows 7. Problem is when you try to customize Cortana settings (to disable the online searching) the system just bugs out and doesn't do anything.Well, that sucks. But as long as you can disable searching online or sending data to Microsoft like 8, it should be fine.
People who keep brining this up are stretching it. If you have 7 or 8.1 the upgrade to 10 will be available for free for the first year after the release of 10. And that's it. No charge ever for 10 if you get the free upgrade during the first year of availability. Period. There's just nothing else to say about it.
Nice try but you haven't seen the EULA, so you don't know more than anyone else, and certainly aren't qualified to conclude that "there's nothing more to say".
The devil, as always, will be in the details.
Windows 8.x doesn't require an email address. The concept of a local-only user account is still there.hehe, i take the point.
but i appreciate Windows7 requiring essentially no relationship between myself and MS
i can just about accept Win 8/8.1 requiring nothing more than an email address, as I can always create a separate email just for that purpose, as I do with google/android.
Like I said, that's useless for me. When I install Windows, I wipe the entire OS drive clean and boot from an installation media. That breaks any kind of MS upgrade scenario entirely.
It's 2015, what am I gonna do, insert my original ISO?