Will you upgrade to the S22 ultra?

[Dutt1113]

Will you be upgrading to the S22 ultra with ram downgrade rumors of "only" 8gb base / 12gb option? With the S21 ultra having 12gb base and 16gb option, is this a true downgrade?

 

[feelx77]

Since you posted this thread I noticed a lot viewed your post but did not vote or respond. Sooo, I am going to assume for most [H] members that's a lazy NO?

For me..No. I just do not see many phones now or later that compel me toward $1k or around for what little upgrades they provide over my existing OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren other than placebo or bragging rights at this time. Keeping it brief...my opinion. Personally I have liked the Sony Xperia line but will still wait. thinking next year I might make a move in 2023.

 

[GoldenTiger]

Since you posted this thread I noticed a lot viewed your post but did not vote or response. Sooo, I am going to assume for most [H] members that's a lazy NO?

For me..No. I just do not see many phones now or later that compel me toward $1k or around for what little upgrades they provide over my existing OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren other than placebo or bragging rights at this time. Keeping it brief...my opinion. Personally I have liked the Sony Xperia line but will still wait. thinking next year I might make a move in 2023.

This... Even the most basic of phones pretty much do what I want out of a one nowadays. I just don't care to spend much on one when the baseline has risen so much compared to a decade ago.

All I want from a phone is a respectable camera, a web browser, the ability to make calls, a pdf/ebook app, and a web browser pretty much. Oh, and maybe a card game or two.... Big time gaming on phones sucks anyway due to the interface.

 

[Vengance_01]

This... Even the most basic of phones pretty much do what I want out of a one nowadays. I just don't care to spend much on one when the baseline has risen so much compared to a decade ago.

All I want from a phone is a respectable camera, a web browser, the ability to make calls, a pdf/ebook app, and a web browser pretty much. Oh, and maybe a card game or two.... Big time gaming on phones sucks anyway due to the interface.

Pixel 6a or 5a 5g would fit the bill perfectly

 

[GoldenTiger]

Pixel 6a or 5a 5g would fit the bill perfectly

My $100 on promo brand new Samsung A50 handles it fine for me . I got it a couple of years ago.

 

[feelx77]

Honestly, at times mid ranges are looking pretty okay to me. If I move on it will be for bigger/longer lasting battery, improved camera mainly, more 5G bands that's about it or forced obsolescence. I am slowly starting to admit defeat on wanting/looking for any new phone with a 3.5mm headphone jack still. the 120-144hz screens are nice to haves but not enough so over my current 90Hz. Same for newer CPU's, mine still plenty fine 855 Plus. The 7 Pro & 7T Pro were just so well ahead in certain areas that matter to me that it will be hard to upgrade from.

 

[GoldenTiger]

feelx77, my phone has a 3.5mm jack also . I wish I could strap an extended battery on it like my galaxy s3 in the old days.... It tripled the capacity and made it twice as thick, but that actually made it easier for me to type on honestly.

 

[Mad Maxx]

Now that the January update has the the in-screen fingerprint scanner is working better, I think my Pixel 6 is just about the best bang for the buck phone you can buy at the moment.

 

[Ripskin]

Ultra NO, one of the lower variants maybe.

 

[Tup3x]

I'm pretty sure that I'll buy vanilla S22. Ultra and + are just too large and heavy. S22 is even tiny bit smaller than my Huawei P30 which is nice improvement. Only thing I don't like is the battery size, which is essentially identical to P30. The fact it has 120hz screen and Exynos (here in Nordics) I have my fears about the battery life. Also losing the memory card option is meh.

 

[ChosenUno]

I'll consider upgrading from my S20FE to a S22FE eventually, or maybe a cheap note with 12GB/16GB RAM. 8GB RAM and 4.3k mAh battery is really barely enough for DeX work.

 

[Aurelius]

As someone who recently bought an iPhone 13 Pro — no, I'm not upgrading to an S22 Ultra, even if it's just because I'm not in the market for a new phone. 😬

If I were shopping for a new phone... probably not. The S22 Ultra could be expensive even compared to previous Ultras and Notes, and the Pixel 6 family might be a considerably better value now that the January update appears to have helped.

 

[NIZMOZ]

Nope, someone has to prove to Samsung their phones are now overpriced. They need to learn they can't be selling these damn phones up to $1499. Especially for a device that will drop over 1/2 its value in a few weeks/months. I think they already saw the sales didn't;t do as expected on the S21, they need to wake up. I am not spending that type of cash on that phone that only cost them to make like $600.

 

[T4rd]

I'm pretty much over the flagship phone scene now. For the superfluous and negligible features and real-world improvements they offer over the mid rangers in the $400-$600 range, there's no point in looking at them anymore IMO. The only reason they keep selling is because of carrier subsidies, promos, uninformed/careless people, or any combination of the three. If anyone had to actually come out of pocket for 1k+ for a phone, you'd see everyone carrying mid-rangers as well.

Foldables are interesting, but for the huge durability trade-off they have and if you go to the beach at all you better keep your phone at home or in a ziplock bag away from the sand with those soft plastic screens and hinges.

 

[DanNeely]

Nope. I'm still happy with my S10, and having battery swapped it late last year am hoping to get another year and a half or two out of it.

 

[Aurelius]

I'm pretty much over the flagship phone scene now. For the superfluous and negligible features and real-world improvements they offer over the mid rangers in the $400-$600 range, there's no point in looking at them anymore IMO. The only reason they keep selling is because of carrier subsidies, promos, uninformed/careless people, or any combination of the three. If anyone had to actually come out of pocket for 1k+ for a phone, you'd see everyone carrying mid-rangers as well.

Foldables are interesting, but for the huge durability trade-off they have and if you go to the beach at all you better keep your phone at home or in a ziplock bag away from the sand with those soft plastic screens and hinges.

I'd add two more people to the sales camps: enthusiasts and the "I have to have the best" types. I bought my iPhone 13 Pro because I knew I'd take advantage of the cameras and appreciate the performance. Now, I can't really excuse the people who will spend virtually anything to have the best phone, but I wouldn't call them careless or uninformed. Too wealthy for their own good, maybe...

But yes, I'd say many people would probably be well-served by a mid-range phone, including some people who think they need a high-end model (the Pixel 6, as glitchy as it has been, is proof positive of this). We're at a point in the phone development cycle where performance is often good enough for common tasks that only a limited group of people will really care about what high-end models bring to the table. Not that I'd discourage Apple or Samsung from making flagships, just that they may have to accept that the mid-tier is where it's at for many people.

 

[T4rd]

Too much credit for their own good, maybe...

FTFY.

The vast majority buying 1k+ iPhones and such, in the US at least, are not wealthy at all and are only buying the phones on credit (leasing) from there carrier. It's almost funny how many minimum wage fast food and retail workers I see with newer iPhones and Samsung Ultras/Notes I see in the wild.

My previous neighbor, who is a single mom with 3 kids and no child support making maybe 60k/year at a local bank had to buy the newest iPhone Max model every year. Doesn't make sense to me, esp. considering she's not a techie whatsoever and probably couldn't tell you what the difference was from her old iPhone. I'm sure there's many more like her out there only because of carrier financing and promos for trading your phone in every year to ensure you keep that 3+ year lease renewing every year.

 

[Dutt1113]

FTFY.

The vast majority buying 1k+ iPhones and such, in the US at least, are not wealthy at all and are only buying the phones on credit (leasing) from there carrier. It's almost funny how many minimum wage fast food and retail workers I see with newer iPhones and Samsung Ultras/Notes I see in the wild.

Ain't this the truth

 

[Dreamerbydesign]

I'm pretty much over the flagship phone scene now. For the superfluous and negligible features and real-world improvements they offer over the mid rangers in the $400-$600 range, there's no point in looking at them anymore IMO. The only reason they keep selling is because of carrier subsidies, promos, uninformed/careless people, or any combination of the three. If anyone had to actually come out of pocket for 1k+ for a phone, you'd see everyone carrying mid-rangers as well.

Foldables are interesting, but for the huge durability trade-off they have and if you go to the beach at all you better keep your phone at home or in a ziplock bag away from the sand with those soft plastic screens and hinges.

For some people maybe. I come out of pocket for all my phones and currently carry a flagship $1300 phone. And have each and every year. There is still a market for the high end, it may not be you. I use Apple products, and would not spend a grand on any Android phone. Android phones lose value fast. Each year I usually sell my flagship phone for the new iteration. I think I havent paid more than $200 to upgrade each cycle. Apple products on the high end hold their value for private sales in my experience.

 

[T4rd]

For some people maybe. I come out of pocket for all my phones and currently carry a flagship $1300 phone. And have each and every year. There is still a market for the high end, it may not be you. I use Apple products, and would not spend a grand on any Android phone. Android phones lose value fast. Each year I usually sell my flagship phone for the new iteration. I think I havent paid more than $200 to upgrade each cycle. Apple products on the high end hold their value for private sales in my experience.

Not some people, most people. I'd wager at least 3/4 of flagship phone sales (still in the US here) are financed either through a carrier or credit card and you are in the minority when carriers make it much more convenient to trade your phone in every year.

 

[Dreamerbydesign]

Not some people, most people. I'd wager at least 3/4 of flagship phone sales (still in the US here) are financed either through a carrier or credit card and you are in the minority when carriers make it much more convenient to trade your phone in every year.

Perhaps that is true. Anecdotal on your part and mine. We obviously are from different parts of the market. I don't care what people spend their money on. But I do see plenty of people with high end phones.

 

[Aurelius]

FTFY.

The vast majority buying 1k+ iPhones and such, in the US at least, are not wealthy at all and are only buying the phones on credit (leasing) from there carrier. It's almost funny how many minimum wage fast food and retail workers I see with newer iPhones and Samsung Ultras/Notes I see in the wild.

My previous neighbor, who is a single mom with 3 kids and no child support making maybe 60k/year at a local bank had to buy the newest iPhone Max model every year. Doesn't make sense to me, esp. considering she's not a techie whatsoever and probably couldn't tell you what the difference was from her old iPhone. I'm sure there's many more like her out there only because of carrier financing and promos for trading your phone in every year to ensure you keep that 3+ year lease renewing every year.

That's probably truer than I care to admit — I'm just thinking of those folks who are clearly well-off, see a phone launch and think "what's the best model? I'll have that, please." The one who was watching Apple's launch and knew they'd be ordering a 1TB iPhone 13 Pro Max before the event was over. I couldn't imagine doing that myself — I could afford a regular iPhone 13 Pro, thankfully, but if I weren't doing so well I wouldn't hesitate to buy a lower-end device.

 

[III_Slyflyer_III]

I'm still on an S9+ and love it... does text, calls, decent camera for vacations, android auto works great and web browsing. All I need and will keep it till it dies or apps no longer work/update... lol.

Then again, I'm not one to update my phone unless I HAVE to. Kept my Droid X until the LG G4; and I only got the S9+ because I got the infamous boot loop hardware failure on the G4 and it was out of warranty by then (had already replaced it once for the same issue).

 

[Nebell]

I currently have Note 10+ and have no plans to upgrade to a similar phone that is only a bit faster
I can't believe I've had this phone since before Covid, it feels forever ago , but it's still a very capable phone for all my needs (music, social media and web browsing).
Has a bit cracked screen but it's not that annoying, and I will keep it for navigation.

But yes, I would buy S22 Ultra, if that was what I'm looking for.
I need big phones and am eyeing Samsung Z Fold, as I need both a phone and a tablet. However, it's not yet what I'm looking for.
Hoping for a bigger battery and bigger screen size with Z Fold 4/5 and maybe better cameras. So, maybe 8"-8.5" folded and 5500+mAh battery.

 

[Tup3x]

I ordered S22 256GB version for 749 € (inc. 24% VAT) and on top of that they are giving Galaxy Buds Pros. Not too bad... In any case I want to get rid of my Huawei P30. Also Samsung is not promising four generations of Android updates (five years of security updates) which is pretty nice.

 

[NoForgiveness]

I was never the type of guy who cared about having the latest and greatest phone. To me, even though I'm a super techie, having a great smartphone was never a priority. I also didn't have a lot of money so I'd buy whatever MetroPCS or whoever was selling in the range of $100 (LOTS of LG phones... but I really liked my Stylo!). Anyway a few years ago I gained the ability to start putting phones on credit and payment plans and it's been OK but I generally feel like I'm not really getting my money's worth, especially with phones costing $1K+ these days. I owe $500 (basically another year of making payments) on my S21+ and there's nothing motivating me to move to an S22+ or Ultra. Maybe next year when I've paid off this S21+ I'll trade it in for whatever comes next.

 

[Aurelius]

I ordered S22 256GB version for 749 € (inc. 24% VAT) and on top of that they are giving Galaxy Buds Pros. Not too bad... In any case I want to get rid of my Huawei P30. Also Samsung is not promising four generations of Android updates (five years of security updates) which is pretty nice.

The four years of OS updates is a nice treat. Not quite as good as Apple's approach, but close enough that it will probably keep your phone current until you're ready to buy something newer. And the kicker is that it applies to last year's flagships (S21/Z Flip 3/Z Fold 3), so existing owners won't feel as much upgrade pressure as they thought they might.

 

[Shoganai]

Was lucky enough to pre-order before the website started having a heart attack.

 

[johnny0]

Interesting promos for the S22 line on the Fi website.

Link: https://fi.google.com/about/promo-terms/?p=2022-samsung-s22-launch

If you're comfortable with using Fi for at least 120 days, this seems better than what Samsung is offering directly.

 

[DanNeely]

Interesting promos for the S22 line on the Fi website.

Link: https://fi.google.com/about/promo-terms/?p=2022-samsung-s22-launch

If you're comfortable with using Fi for at least 120 days, this seems better than what Samsung is offering directly.

Only ported numbers qualify it appears.

Makes sense since otherwise people could rip google off by signing up for the cheapest $20/mo plan, letting the phone sit and gather dust as a wifi tablet 4 months to avoid data charges (to stay within $100 the bill credit) and then cancel scoring a $400-500 discount. Too bad; I don't want to change carriers, and the won't work plan would've gotten me an effective net $700ish discount after flipping my S10. I don't need an upgrade, but at that low a price trading up 2 model years would've been really tempting.

 

[Zorachus]

ZERO chance I'm trading in my Pixel 6 Pro for a Samsung S22, nope.

 

[cpufrost]

I thought about it but am boycotting the Samsung store until they fix their broken sales tax calculator!
With over $1k of trade ins bringing the purchase down to $500 they still charge sales tax on the full retail price of the phone.
That's just whack!

 

[FlawleZ]

I was rocking my S8 for as long as possible but got tired of dealing with a busted screen and dieing battery. Bought a new sealed in box S10 on Ebay for $200. Soon as it arrived I rooted the phone and popped in a 512GB SD card. When I look at prices on new top of the line phones I couldn't be happier with my $200 replacement.

 

[Ripskin]

Very tempted by the regular S22. But my 5T is still very solid. Blarg.

 

[mvmiller12]

I mean, it's still running Android. I still strongly dislike the UI in Android (and iPhone), so the Galaxy Note 9 AT&T gave me for free to replace my Lumia 950XL for the 3G cutoff will suffice.

[Rant]
God, I miss Windows Phone. The UI made sense, not a lot of garbage to wade through. It didn't have a lot of apps, but it didn't really need a lot of apps either as almost everything I would want to do on a phone was built-in and logically placed (Yo Android, why is visual voicemail a separate app from the phone app?? Why is that a good idea??)...
[/Rant]

edit: spelling

 

[Shoganai]

why is visual voicemail a separate app from the phone app?? why is that a good idea??

It’s not? At least not on the iPhone. It’s all in the phone app.

 

[mvmiller12]

It’s not? At least not on the iPhone. It’s all in the phone app.

It's a whole separate thing on Android.

 

[cpufrost]

It’s not? At least not on the iPhone. It’s all in the phone app.

I love how email, notes and VVM is baked into iOS.
On Android you're stuck with third party apps.
The Samsung VVM app is OK but if you're on TMO it does not work and TMO's VVM app is a steaming pile of horse waste!
The only thing that keeps me using Samsung and Android is the Z Fold. I always thought a folding phone and its quirks added up to a high place on the ladder of gimmicks, but after using and owning one, definitely not! If/when (Apple) has a folding phone the rest will be history.

 

[Westwood]

For some people maybe. I come out of pocket for all my phones and currently carry a flagship $1300 phone. And have each and every year. There is still a market for the high end, it may not be you. I use Apple products, and would not spend a grand on any Android phone. Android phones lose value fast. Each year I usually sell my flagship phone for the new iteration. I think I havent paid more than $200 to upgrade each cycle. Apple products on the high end hold their value for private sales in my experience.

I'm still rocking a dumb phone. XD

 

[Dreamerbydesign]

I'm still rocking a dumb phone. XD

There’s nothing wrong with that! I encourage people to use what makes them happy.

It would be nice to carry a dumb phone for non work related things. I should look in to that.