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I like your idea. I take it you have experience with the 3700X and needing more cooling? What do you think about the Hyper212, and I have an old Hydro series H100i but that is noisy.Wraith Prism can't dissipate heat for full potential of a 3700x under PBO, you lose a couple 100mhz.
I couldn't deal with it's noise with my am4 CPUs 4ghz+ all core.
I'd look for a used 140mm Noctua cooler or near free Prism and go from there.
I like your idea. I take it you have experience with the 3700X and needing more cooling? What do you think about the Hyper212, and I have an old Hydro series H100i but that is noisy.
Wraith Prism can't dissipate heat for full potential of a 3700x under PBO, you lose a couple 100mhz.
I couldn't deal with it's noise with my am4 CPUs 4ghz+ all core.
I'd look for a used 140mm Noctua cooler or near free Prism and go from there.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1875-ryzen-3900x-wraith-prism-rgb-vs-liquid-cooler/
TLDR: You gain lower operating noise and lower temps, but the boosting difference between the two results in negligible performance gains.
Just noticed I still have a cooler for an 8350 and I was wondering if it might be a better solution than the Wraith Stealth I am using on my 3800X. Runs at 4200.
Depends on your workload.
My AM4 boxes are kubernetes mules ingesting React fronted builds.
I'm doing a lot of load testing and pipeline optimization.
Minority data tier optimization.
Think: I synthetically generate 100k users and fire them at the stack under test before I push to testing requiring GPUs
Absolutely. I'm not saying that the wraith prism is great for every workload, but for the average user, and for the cost (free), it's not bad.
The AM3 Cooler I was going to use was from an 8350 and has heat pipes but I am going for the short term due to cash flow and will be looking for a used Wraith if it is the best I can get in that price range.
Thank for the input and great comments.
Now I am debating. I don't really want to pull the MB again so do I look for a Prism or another heatsink that does not require pulling the board?212 black specifically (bc of mount orientation) or that Gammax copy if noise bothers you vs Prism.
It's just a question of $20 or less all in and you're set.
Now I am debating. I don't really want to pull the MB again so do I look for a Prism or another heatsink that does not require pulling the board?
Can't find either of those for that price. Best I have seen is a Wraith for $32.00 shipped.Go with a Prism or Wraith Max.
They were going for $10-15 before lockdown bc I was grabbing them for kid builds for rgb and $ sensitivity.
I’d hold out for $20 all in, no reason to spend towards 212 black new or used u14s territory.
Air coolers are too tight a $ tiered environment.
Can't find either of those for that price. Best I have seen is a Wraith for $32.00 shipped.
Plenty of room. 540 air case .Offer this seller an even $40: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Noctua-120...113920?hash=item5488b98ac0:g:UU8AAOSw6d9fLyPu
Does your case not have a big cooler cutout?
8350 cooler will work on an AM4 board, but it won't work for a 3800X... Wraith Max would be the oldest OEM cooler that could keep up and that is essentially the Prism's older brother
Just got a buy on a Wraith, almost unused. Thank you. I might have bought the Gammaxx if I had seen it first.What ^ said.
Unfortunately the Max shot up in value along with the Prism for Ryzen owners.
Air cooler pricing is tight, $10 separates tiers.
https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-GAMMAXX-400-Blue-Compatible/dp/B00JQ2YDCY
Gammax is what I’d buy for $24 if I had to slap together a budget build right now.
I wouldn’t use a Stealth or an am3 cooler.
All I’d be looking to do is keep out of the 90c range under load and be done with it.
This is kinda absurd bc OP has a 3800x, yet I'm coming from the used Apu, 4c, and 6c builds I pour concern on bc they're going to kids that need their boxes for school....then Fortnite. I don’t want to service their builds often, I’ve got a finite performance envelope for them.
I'd take more care with an 8c+, and pull the trigger on a used Noctua. 3800x price being 2x-5x more than I'd spend on whatever used cpu at that moment I'm pulling together a kid box. Adults can have open expectations, kids I just tell them to get As then talk to your parents for that upgrade I’m not going to pay for.
Just got a buy on a Wraith, almost unused. Thank you. I might have bought the Gammaxx if I had seen it first.
Yeah. I think air cooling will have a place for quite a while. Now I better sell my 3600X before it loses any more value.Good, bc you have a baseline for that next cpu upgrade as well as getting your build hangups past you.
I'm curious about where Zen3 6c will go with heat envelope. There's still place for air coolers with 8c Zen2 and down the stack. 3600 is a diff animal to my old 2600, that extra cooler noise was notable on release.
3900x I found was too much for the Prism or my U14s 2x fans bc fans were working hard most of the time.
If 8c APUs hit the market I'm interested in how the cooler landscape will change.
Yeah. I think air cooling will have a place for quite a while. Now I better sell my 3600X before it loses any more value.
Almost traded up to a 3950X but didn't think I would see much gaming improvement seeing as I need to replace my 1070 GTX