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A manufacturer dropping prices now? Why?It's a manufacturer price drop, not a Best Buy price drop.
you are 100% right, you haven't kept up with video card MSRPs.Maybe I haven't kept up with video card MSRPs, but $622 seems bonkers for a 3060 Ti.
Wow.
Even crazier is the eVGA 3080 XC3 Ultra I got from eVGA for $769.99 for in November is selling for $2300 on eBay.Wow.
*checks Newegg*
The MSRP of that 3070 I ordered in October has gone up by $200
So glad that I'm not video card shopping now.
MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) hasn't changed, just the availability/markup prices have. Granted the markups are disgusting. E.g. my card has a retail price that is 50% more than retail pricing at launch and 65% more than I paid for my card when I ordered it at launch.you are 100% right, you haven't kept up with video card MSRPs.
MSRP has changed, the manufacturers have literally changed what they suggest the retail price should be.MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) hasn't changed, just the availability/markup prices have. Granted the markups are disgusting. E.g. my card has a retail price that is 50% more than retail pricing at launch and 65% more than I paid for my card when I ordered it at launch.
Nvidia is the manufacturer so they set the MSRP for the GPU. Actual retail price and suggested retail price is not the same thing.MSRP has changed, the manufacturers have literally changed what they suggest the retail price should be.
EVGA, Asus, Zotac, MSI, Gigabyte, etc, are all manufacturers as well, and they HAVE changed their MSRPs.Nvidia is the manufacturer so they set the MSRP for the GPU. Actual retail price and suggested retail price is not the same thing.
I think you’re referring to the tariff price increase and not anything to do with inflated eBay prices.EVGA, Asus, Zotac, MSI, Gigabyte, etc, are all manufacturers as well, and they HAVE changed their MSRPs.
No they really have changed their msrps. Nvidia only sets msrp for reference designs and most of these AIBs don’t even sell the reference design.I think you’re referring to the tariff price increase and not anything to do with inflated eBay prices.
They went up to due to tariffs though. eVGA has the lowest increase I’ve seen so far.No they really have changed their msrps. Nvidia only sets msrp for reference designs and most of these AIBs don’t even sell the reference design.
Evgas msrp goes up this month.
It isn't just tariff prices anymore, the prices for other components for making electronics have also increased, so MSRPs have gone up for not only tariff costs, but component shortage costs as well. Very ugly time we are living in for buying PC hardware for reasonable prices. The other issue for increased prices in the future is the increasing cost of smaller die shrinks, this will lead to further price increases that we are not used or desiring of but it is the cost of making itty bitty transistors even ittier and bittier than before.I think you’re referring to the tariff price increase and not anything to do with inflated eBay prices.
Have prices for anything besides GPUs gone up? Mobos seem okay, PSUs seem okay, both of which use a lot of components. Which would mean it's a Samsung or VRAM issue?It isn't just tariff prices anymore, the prices for other components for making electronics have also increased, so MSRPs have gone up for not only tariff costs, but component shortage costs as well. Very ugly time we are living in for buying PC hardware for reasonable prices. The other issue for increased prices in the future is the increasing cost of smaller die shrinks, this will lead to further price increases that we are not used or desiring of but it is the cost of making itty bitty transistors even ittier and bittier than before.
I'm not privy to the whole electronics supply chain or all of the effected components, but some of those items such as Mobos and PSUs may not be affected yet. DDR RAM memory prices are expected to increase this year, something like 20% if I recall. AMD did increase their 5000 series prices like for like core counts, maybe they priced some of that in so we are not seeing an MSRP increase but an e-tailer/retailer increase. Motherboards may not need some of the more exotic raw amterial that transistor manufacturing companies need to make CPUs and GPUs, that may account for some of the differences.Have prices for anything besides GPUs gone up? Mobos seem okay, PSUs seem okay, both of which use a lot of components. Which would mean it's a Samsung or VRAM issue?
TSMC related electronics (consoles, AMD products) are also suffering.
I've also heard there are changes to Ethereum coming by the end of Summer so there may be a surge in used cards coming.Soon it'll all be cheap again. Pandemic is dying out, and people will forget that they even wanted a video card soon with summer here.
All the 'luck' in aquiring one, will be replaced by patience for a 4xxx card in September that won't be pestered by the same issues, and hopefully will not be sucking up 350+w, needing VRAM pads, or catching PC's on fire..
Could be wrong, but historically speaking, that's what I expect.
ETH miners have been accumulating as fast as they can before ETH moves to proof of stake (currently proof of work, hence the mineability) as ETH is still the most profitable coin to mine. However, if ETH 2.0 doesn’t land this summer, 6GB equipped GPUs will have to be switched to different coins or mine a bit longer with tricky workarounds like the 4GB cards. If ETH changes to proof of stake most miners will switch to a different coin. Raven coin seems to be the next favorite coin though it requires a lot more power to mine that ETH because it uses more of GPU core whereas ETH uses mostly memory bandwidth and some of the core.I've also heard there are changes to Ethereum coming by the end of Summer so there may be a surge in used cards coming.
I think we're going to see record travel and vacation numbers this summer, that's for sure. Can't say what the impact on the GPU market will be.
Considering all the previous delays, are we even sure this will happen when they say it will?ETH miners have been accumulating as fast as they can before ETH moves to proof of stake (currently proof of work, hence the mineability) as ETH is still the most profitable coin to mine. However, if ETH 2.0 doesn’t land this summer, 6GB equipped GPUs will have to be switched to different coins or mine a bit longer with tricky workarounds like the 4GB cards. If ETH changes to proof of stake most miners will switch to a different coin. Raven coin seems to be the next favorite coin though it requires a lot more power to mine that ETH because it uses more of GPU core whereas ETH uses mostly memory bandwidth and some of the core.
You're not going to see a 4xxx card till maybe September 2022. These 3xxx just released last September.Soon it'll all be cheap again. Pandemic is dying out, and people will forget that they even wanted a video card soon with summer here.
All the 'luck' in aquiring one, will be replaced by patience for a 4xxx card in September that won't be pestered by the same issues, and hopefully will not be sucking up 350+w, needing VRAM pads, or catching PC's on fire..
Could be wrong, but historically speaking, that's what I expect.
That is the question, which is why people are jumping in to mine it as long as the good times last, however long it takes to move to proof of stake...Considering all the previous delays, are we even sure this will happen when they say it will?
The RAM kit I bought went from like $180 to $230 in the span of a week. The motherboard has an original MSRP of $419.99 and is now $449.99. Much smaller difference vs a GPU in terms of total money, though that RAM kit went up like 22%.Have prices for anything besides GPUs gone up? Mobos seem okay, PSUs seem okay, both of which use a lot of components. Which would mean it's a Samsung or VRAM issue?
TSMC related electronics (consoles, AMD products) are also suffering.
Looking at the bapcsales subreddit, Newegg is still king of prices.I'm so old I remember shopping at newegg because they had reasonable prices on things.
I think the only place that beats newegg is MicroCenter if you are lucky enough to have one near by. And if they do not, they WILL match newegg or amazon, so it is a win-win.Looking at the bapcsales subreddit, Newegg is still king of prices.
I shop there because they are the only site that doesn't tax me. They also send me tons of free shit as an Eggxpert reviewer.
I do miss their Premier program, though. Wish they'd bring it back.
So true. These days B&H often has better prices AND no sales tax AND free shipping for most items. And Amazon's prices are usually the same as B&H's. So Newegg is the odd man out here.I'm so old I remember shopping at newegg because they had reasonable prices on things.
No sales taxes? Do you live in a state with no sales taxes? Doesn't Amazon also not tax you?Looking at the bapcsales subreddit, Newegg is still king of prices.
I shop there because they are the only site that doesn't tax me. They also send me tons of free shit as an Eggxpert reviewer.
I do miss their Premier program, though. Wish they'd bring it back.