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what do you use?
The topic title would explain this a bit.Hmm, it seems that a lot of the complaints in here about "Linux" are actually complaints about Ubuntu.
Sometimes you have to use Ubuntu's own proprietary driver enabler/disabler, but it might not be working and you're stuck with the mfg's utility that doesn't really work.I'm using an nvidia card and my most recent install was a nightmare on Ubuntu. That took the better portion of 2 hours to get working - the "3rd party drivers" app just dumped with an error... only the error box had no text, and the button to exit it didn't either.
... every 6 months. If you upgrade, your OS will be half-screwed and you'll have to deal with video problems, etc. If you reinstall, well, you have to reinstall every apps, codecs, plugins, drivers all over again.I love linux, don't get me wrong, but there's a lot of wasted time spent in fiddling with things to make it work right before you can actually use it.
I don't know where it's at now, but I hated upgrading and installing packages on this one. The package manager was SLOOWWWW.My preferred distro is openSUSE
I guess everyone's experience is obviously different depending on there hardware and experience level.
For me it's been pain free and just a lot of fun to play with. I'm using ubuntu on both my main system (see signature) and on a 3 year old Toshiba laptop and they both work perfectly, for what I use them for. Is linux pefect? Of course not, but neither is windows *cough* or OSx.
Network printing? Sorry, you can't unless the driver is MADE for it or the printer has a network connection. A Windows-shared or Linux-shared printer will not work, unlike with the two other OSes. And it just crashes too. Every times Apple releases something new, you need to wait for a 2nd generation to come to be sure there aren't hardware problems. I know someone with a 1st gen G5 iMac. Optical drive ejects CDs on the floor, noisy as hell, overheats and crashes (apparently, you can dismantle the whole thing to reach the CPU thermal paste and apply Arctic Silver instead to fix the problem), whole batch recalled for dying PSU problems, etc.I've never had hardware problems with OSX for obvious reasons,
Some Linux distros are made on the sole purpose of bringing an alternative to Windows. Are they really usable or not?Linux, on the other hand, is supposed to be an operating system made for power users out of the box. It drops you into a minimalistic Linux install, allowing you to configure it exactly how you want it (unless you use Ubuntu, etc.). The amount of time it takes you to set it up is gained in the productivity you produce because the entire operating system has been tailored to your needs. All you need to do now is update every so often to get the latest and greatest.
Linux, on the other hand, is supposed to be an operating system made for power users out of the box. It drops you into a minimalistic Linux install, allowing you to configure it exactly how you want it (unless you use Ubuntu, etc.).
EDIT:
It is also mistaken that there are thousands of different versions of Linux. This is incorrect. There is only one version of Linux. Distros are just different collections of packages, but they all revolve around the Linux kernel, which is Linux. There is also *BSD, which is different from Linux.
Network printing? Sorry, you can't unless the driver is MADE for it or the printer has a network connection. A Windows-shared or Linux-shared printer will not work, unlike with the two other OSes. And it just crashes too. Every times Apple releases something new, you need to wait for a 2nd generation to come to be sure there aren't hardware problems. I know someone with a 1st gen G5 iMac. Optical drive ejects CDs on the floor, noisy as hell, overheats and crashes (apparently, you can dismantle the whole thing to reach the CPU thermal paste and apply Arctic Silver instead to fix the problem), whole batch recalled for dying PSU problems, etc.
Some Linux distros are made on the sole purpose of bringing an alternative to Windows. Are they really usable or not?
Sorry, what I meant was hardware incompatibilities - OSX is designed for only a specific set of hardware, and works on that, and I've never cared about network printers at all - any decent one is going to have its own network connection anyway. You won't see OSX having a problem with a sound card, like I am right now with ubuntu.
The amount you pay for that is highly exorbitant, and in most people's minds, not worth it.
lopoetve said:For instance- Ubuntu does away with the wheel group for sudo. I'll be damned if I can tell how it does it honestly.
I believe they use the admin group instead. In /etc/sudoers, you will notice everyone on in the admin group can sudo. in /etc/group, you will see that your account is part of the admin group.
As for why I use Linux, it's free and I like the idea of open source. And call me an oddball or whatever, but I love solving all those ridiculous hardware issues and such. In the end, I usually learn a lot that I can apply sometime down the future. I miss using Slackware now...
I've never had hardware problems with OSX for obvious reasons, and most windows problems ae fixed due to the sheer number of users. Linux - just too many distros to code a unified driver for, so there's so many things that just don't work right.
I've never, EVER, had linux working well on a laptop. It just doesn't play nice. Especially ALSA (which I honestly hate - OSS worked, ALSA was a mistake from the beginning). On the other hand, I've never had serious problems with it on the desktop and used to use it all the time there.
hardware drivers are an issue with the kernel and are not a distro specific technical problem. Get your facts straight.
Decent (ie. Not Epson or Lexmark) multifuctions with networking are much more expensive than $200.OSX is designed for only a specific set of hardware, and works on that, and I've never cared about network printers at all - any decent one is going to have its own network connection anyway.
Decent (ie. Not Epson or Lexmark) multifuctions with networking are much more expensive than $200.
As for WoW, it seems you need a bit of tinkering to get it to work
http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine_(software)
The guide may be a little outdated, it talks about Wine 0.9
There is no restriction on works made by GIMP, it is licensed under the GNU GPL.
Why resuscitate this thread for that?
It's just too bad that the real-time kernel on the 8.10 version doesn't support SMP (stuck with one core). I installed it recently and had to use version 8.04.I just installed Ubuntu Studio last night.
Thread title:Why resuscitate this thread for that?
I know that the windows/mac versions of pretty much the same software would be several thousand dollars.
I just installed Ubuntu Studio last night. I know that the windows/mac versions of pretty much the same software would be several thousand dollars.(legit copies). That gives people the oppertunity to use creative software, that wouldn't have access to it and don't want to pirate it. I thnk it's great. Gimp has professional capabilities. I haven't explored it to it's fullest yet. Just messing around last night, it was very close to CS3 and not as forgien as Aperture.
The Cisco IOS has nothing to do with Linux. The only thing they have in common is that their command line based. If you can type, you can learn the Cisco IOS.I have taught myself Cisco CLI, and it's all because of Linux.
The Cisco IOS has nothing to do with Linux. The only thing they have in common is that their command line based. If you can type, you can learn the Cisco IOS.
I guess you've never heard of a package manager or have any idea how much software is at your fingertips via a package manager. Or about how easy it is to add a repository or how many of the popular repositories only have to be enabled with a couple clicks of the mouse without even having to look up that repository depending on the distro you're using?
Same goes for any proprietary professional software. You know, the stuff that costs money and can be used to make more money. What then? Most professional software isn't even abailable on Linux, and the stuff that is available is a pain in the ass to install. Don't even get me started on how Linux/BSD still can't run (and doesn't have a good substitute) for Photoshop, Logic Studio, Final Cut, SONAR, Cubase, etc.
Do they just refuse to do it?
I'll be the devil's advocate here: what if it's not in a repository? What then? Ever seen MATLAB in a repository? Nope, me neither. Ever installed MATLAB on Linux? To say it's a pain in the ass would be a very generous understatement.
Same goes for any proprietary professional software. You know, the stuff that costs money and can be used to make more money. What then? Most professional software isn't even abailable on Linux, and the stuff that is available is a pain in the ass to install. Don't even get me started on how Linux/BSD still can't run (and doesn't have a good substitute) for Photoshop, Logic Studio, Final Cut, SONAR, Cubase, etc.