Why is that some VPN is several times the monthly fee vs. others?

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expressvpn.com is 4X the monthly fee vs. Surfshark.com

what do I get from the extra money?

Expresvpn charges a 1 time x 15 month package. But who's to say they'll be around in 15 mth.?

Where can you get some unbias recommendation on the top 10 VPN and have been in business for at least 10 years?

What are the deciding factor when it comes to VPN

I only need VPN for 1 desktop PC.
 

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You get more VPN servers in more countries for that money, as well as wider device compatibility and app support.

For instance, I use Express VPN because it has an Android TV client for me to use on my Shield TV to use in conjunction with streaming services that are only available in the US while I'm working overseas. Most other smaller VPN services don't have their own app/client for all platforms/devices like that for easy switching between locations and servers. It's not uncommon for a service to detect my VPN connection and cut me off, so I have to go select one of the other many servers available in the US and then I'm good to go afterwards. I don't want to VPN my whole network at my router either, as I like to have the versatility to use different servers/locations at different devices or not run VPN at all on some devices.

My coworker uses Surfshark as well because like you; he only needs it for one Windows box and he doesn't stream on it like I do. So different needs and use cases.
 

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Private Internet Access. Been using them for years, never had a problem with them. They don't keep logs of your activity, they have tons of worldwide servers to connect to, they have WireGuard, a beautiful VPN client, and even dedicated IPs to use.

Well worth the money, and they seem like they'll be around for a long time.
 

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Between DNS over TLS and nearly everything else being encrypted with HTTPS I really don't see the value in commercial VPNs. I *may* subscribe to one in the future to see if I can get star trek shows from Europe in the future that are on paramount plus here. That being said, what I do find a ton of use for is rolling my own IPSec VPN through my pfsense server. I use it on my phones, tablet, on public wifi. Works kinda awesome for that, and free to boot.
 

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okay, supposed I do streaming TV at home (1 TV), would Private Internet Access or SurfShark does the job?

the other thing I really want to understand is:

w/o VPN, I'm at 1.4MB/sec from my local ISP

if I subscribe to any of these VPN, is my internet speed depends upon these VPN services? Or is it still SOLELY based on my local ISP?
 

revodo

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okay, supposed I do streaming TV at home (1 TV), would Private Internet Access or SurfShark does the job?

the other thing I really want to understand is:

w/o VPN, I'm at 1.4MB/sec from my local ISP

if I subscribe to any of these VPN, is my internet speed depends upon these VPN services? Or is it still SOLELY based on my local ISP?

Your speed will always be set by your ISP, unless you're doing things that your ISP throttles you over. They're not supposed to, but a lot of ISPs do it. So for example, if they realize you're streaming a lot of video, they might lower your overall speed, or if they know you're acting as a server with people downloading from your computer, etc. VPNs mask what you're doing, so ISPs can't figure out what your downloading or uploading. So if that scenario was what was happening to you, yes, it might increase your speed.

As far as lowering your speed, you might lose a small, insignificant amount of bandwidth using a VPN, or sometimes the server you're connected to might temporarily overloaded, but you can easily switch to another server, and Private Internet Access's client shows the latency / ping of all their servers, which makes it easy.

EDIT: As far as using a VPN directly on a TV... it's possible, but generally a headache.
 

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Nord has been pretty good for me. Decent enough speeds for my use. They have some good specialty servers like P2P, double vpn, netflix. Stability is good too. I can be connected to the same server for a few days without interruptions. Mobile is a little flakier but eh

I was with cyberghost before Nord and they were good too. Based in Germany, they've built some good will with me because I subbed to Nord without remembering that I had a recurring sub to cyberghost. When my subscription was charged by cyberghost a few days after I signed up for Nord, I asked the cyberghost folks for a refund and they agreed without any hassle. Very cool on their part
 

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EDIT: As far as using a VPN directly on a TV... it's possible, but generally a headache.
how come? As I plan to use a VPN on a router, most router has a VPN setting that I can add, and then connect Ruku to the router. What kind of headache would that cause?
 

revodo

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how come? As I plan to use a VPN on a router, most router has a VPN setting that I can add, and then connect Ruku to the router. What kind of headache would that cause?

A router should be simple enough, I meant adding it directly the the SmartTV OS.
 
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