I’m in the same boat.I'm either going to get a 3090 or a 3090 I think. But if not, I'll probably settle for a 3090.
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I’m in the same boat.I'm either going to get a 3090 or a 3090 I think. But if not, I'll probably settle for a 3090.
**the 1080Ti has entered the chat**I don't think the top end card has ever, in the history of GPU's, been a better value than the one just below it.
I think the 3090 will lose their status fast once the 3080 Ti + Super variants comes out...
that's bull craphttps://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/nvidia-s-ultimate-play
Sounds like Nvidia is playing us all for fools with the FE cards.
If that is remotely accurate, it's not Samsung that will be the cause of shortages.
I'll try to get a 3080, but if I don't I'll Wait and see what comes down the pipeline.
Shame on you!!!!I think I'm gonna be in for a 3080. My 2070 is working fine but I would like to get 120+ in my games with maxed settings and I think a 3080 would be able to do that on my 1080 monitor.
My kid's PC needs a refresh as he's trying to make YouTube videos of him and his friends gaming so I'm actually toying with going all out, giving him my current rig and then building me a new one maybe with an Intel 10600K....it would be my first Intel rig since 2008.
And yes I'm aware than I'm shamelessly exploiting my 11 year old son's desire to make YouTube videos in order to justify building myself a new PC from the ground up...... Don't judge me.
Nah, it will remain top dog until a Titan is released.
that's bull crap
historically FE cards haven't ever gone up from MSRP at least in nvidia shop, wether you can get one in stock is another matter.
Nvidia does not benefit from shortages, they get the same money from any GPU no matter if it ends up selling for $500 or $1000 to the end user.
AIB partners also don't benefit from shortages, the only ones that really benefit are stores and ebay resellers.
Actually, they do benefit if you read the article...
1). Nvidia can say that the "price" is $699 even though the margin on that $699 is historically low for FE cards due to the cooler.
2). When AIB have dramatically higher prices, they can say, "But the FE is only $699" and they don't want to ship it in volume because of 1). They are going to make the same money off of the AIB manufacturers regardless of what they charge.
3). The FE cards that outperform the $699 AIB cards are going to be the ones that get Day 1 reviews, which are the only reviews people actually read unfortunately. An EVGA "Black" card is going to be priced at $699, but won't perform like an FE card, but people will buy them anyway due to the Day 1 review.
that's bull crap
historically FE cards haven't ever gone up from MSRP at least in nvidia shop, wether you can get one in stock is another matter.
Nvidia does not benefit from shortages, they get the same money from any GPU no matter if it ends up selling for $500 or $1000 to the end user.
AIB partners also don't benefit from shortages, the only ones that really benefit are stores and ebay resellers.
Actually, they do benefit if you read the article...
1). Nvidia can say that the "price" is $699 even though the margin on that $699 is historically low for FE cards due to the cooler.
2). When AIB have dramatically higher prices, they can say, "But the FE is only $699" and they don't want to ship it in volume because of 1). They are going to make the same money off of the AIB manufacturers regardless of what they charge. FE cards are going to be perpetually sold out at Nvidia's storefront.
3). The FE cards that outperform the $699 AIB cards are going to be the ones that get Day 1 reviews, which are the only reviews people actually read unfortunately. An EVGA "Black" card is going to be priced at $699, but won't perform like an FE card, but people will buy them anyway due to the Day 1 review of the FE card.
https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/nvidia-s-ultimate-play
Sounds like Nvidia is playing us all for fools with the FE cards.
Actually, they do benefit if you read the article...
1). Nvidia can say that the "price" is $699 even though the margin on that $699 is historically low for FE cards due to the cooler.
2). When AIB have dramatically higher prices, they can say, "But the FE is only $699" and they don't want to ship it in volume because of 1). They are going to make the same money off of the AIB manufacturers regardless of what they charge. FE cards are going to be perpetually sold out at Nvidia's storefront.
3). The FE cards that outperform the $699 AIB cards are going to be the ones that get Day 1 reviews, which are the only reviews people actually read unfortunately. An EVGA "Black" card is going to be priced at $699, but won't perform like an FE card, but people will buy them anyway due to the Day 1 review of the FE card.
that's bull crap
historically FE cards haven't ever gone up from MSRP at least in nvidia shop, wether you can get one in stock is another matter.
Nvidia does not benefit from shortages, they get the same money from any GPU no matter if it ends up selling for $500 or $1000 to the end user.
AIB partners also don't benefit from shortages, the only ones that really benefit are stores and ebay resellers.
1) How does that benefit nViida exactly?
2) How does that benefit nVidia exactly?
3) This would benefit nvidia, but has nothing to do with a shortage benefiting nVidia. Qutie the opposite. What would befefit nVidia more, Day 1 reviews being great as well as end user experience or great day 1 reviews and disappointed end users?
All you did was repeat what the article said but did not address how it's "not" BS.
All fanboy-ism or did you not read and comprehend the entire article?IF #3 has right, it would backfire BIG TIME. Assuming the AIB cards were not up to speed compared to FE cards, you can bet social media would destroy nvidia. AFAIK only OC versions of ampere cards are coming later. So most cards should perform as FE cards, since the specs are the same.
I can definitely see Nvidia playing pricing games and fooling people...the $700 Founders price on the 3080 is going to be significantly higher with AIB cards...same with the 3070 16GB and 3080 20GB variants...all the reviews will say $700 but the reality will be much worse
So the only reason I could see them creating rumours of shortages is that they want people to jump on pre order / buying right away knowing that AMD will have something relatively competitive coming and hoping you buy before realizing it.
I personally find it hard to believe that the EVGA black cards will under-perform as someone suggested. Prob the Ventus / Armor and a few other models will, but they have historically anyways if you ask me. I will probably pick up a 3080FE and then later also pick up second tier AMD but aftermarket. This is the first NV founders cooler that I have ever considered. I fully expect AMD to put out a competitive card with a shitty stock cooler.
Best Buy has a couple listed for $750,
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Well remember that Nvidia kind of did something like this with the turing cards. The $999 2080ti black versions of the cards were inferior to the $1200 FE and other AIB model cards. So, it does not shock me that Nvidia does this sort of thing again.
Hate to say it but the FE version looks a lot better than most of the AIB cards. It’s like the AIB aren’t even trying anymore. I might grab a 3080 FE on release day if I can just to see how it is.
This was more chip binning though and not so much related to cooler quality? Yeah I heard a rumour there may be 3 tiers of binning this time? I was not convinced that the differences in binning were enough of a big deal. I will certainly make a decision based on noise levels and temps and but am less concerned about +- 50 or so MHZ of boosting difference due to binning. I have both a 1080ti "Black" and a FTW3 and i find the differences between the two are minimal in terms of performance. Can't speak to Turing cards though since i don't have any.
I don't think they did that for 1000 series. Really started with the Turing cards.
With NV cards having 80% market share it's really a gold mine for the AIB's to cut costs and reap the benefits. Until they produce real junk they'll continue to rake in the bucks. Not saying it's right but that is business. Gotta make that money.
I don't think they did that for 1000 series. Really started with the Turing cards.