Who are madmen buying $700 motherboards?

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  1. Raychem

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    I clearly remember paying $ 600 plus dollars 10 years ago for an EVGA SR-2 which I still have. Still worth that much today just about. I mostly build 2 processor servers and they are not inexpensive (WCG). Now for main stream I have a hard time paying more than $ 350 for a motherboard. I still find that expensive. Thing is some of the more expensive board do come with better features. That does cost some money in the end.
     
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  2. somebrains

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    I think certain B550 mobos will have a lot of commercial appeal.
     
  3. Jedibeeftrix

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    $700 is crazy money for a mainstream platform like AM4 or 1152.
    I would not spend more than half that, and i'd expect something pretty special for $350 (~£275)!
    Right now i'm looking at the Aorus Master as the minimum feature set i'd like to see in a next gen board, and as good as it is the £260 pricetag is making is a pretty unlikely prospect.

    Re: the hunt for faster integrated ethernet - we have three emerging standards: 2.5Gb / 5Gb / 10Gb.
    Is there any indication on which of them is going to emerge as the defacto consumer standard that replaces 1Gb?
    i.e. the one that ends up in four port domestic fibre routers, and not consigned to expensive niche business use-cases.
     
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    My experience on the professional networking side of 10Gbs RJ45 was not great. The cabling standards and the standard to which SFP+ manufacturers are working toward are not the same. CAT6A cabling should be able to do 10Gbs to 100 meters; the SFP+ manufacturers are only spec'ing 10Gbs to 30 meters. They are also emulating fiber optic SFP+ (in the case of FS) so don't have a standard way of negotiating down to the same speed on both sides of the connection. If I need greater than 1Gbs, I'm getting a LAN card with an SFP+ slot and using fiber SFP+ modules; these work at 10Gbs and utilize less power in doing so. They also have slightly less latency.



     
  5. Dan_D

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    Motherboards have hit pirces like this years ago. GIGABYTE's X58-UD9 was $700 and that was YEARS ago. Intel's D5400XS was around $600 initially. HEDT motherboards and even some mainstream boards have hit prices of close to $600. Most X570 motherboards aren't that expensive either.

    See above. $299 hasn't bought an ultra-high end motherboard in years.
     
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  6. humptydumpty

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    Who are madmen buying $700 motherboards?

    Those, whose "Easy-Go" is "Easy-Come", that 's who ! Those for whom, "More Money than Sense", is "The-AOK to Run-Amok".

    As such, should "they" be "successful", watch-out for the $1k Mobo !!

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  7. OFaceSIG

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    Arguably, most of those features, if all not, can be found on cheaper than $700 boards.

    Yes, know plenty that burn cash because they can.

    Then, there are others that waste tons of cash, and live in debt, like idiots, because they didn't have the money in the first place.

    Makes sense brother.
     
  8. EmualDave2k12

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    which motherboard?
     
  9. Nicepants42

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    If by
    you mean

    Then I completely agree with you.

    On topic, C7H is ~$250 new, open box C7H wifi is ~$235 at the egg. I'll take the $400 and lose the fan, thanks.
     
  10. ManofGod

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    Well, to each their own but, I think your opinion is wrong. (Although yes, the vrm's will run cool because of the water cooling, if you use it.)
     
  11. Nicepants42

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    Well I guess I better cite some sources then. While I'm at it, let me address that first thing you said:

    Would you imagine that the VRM differs between the two boards? This table at Anandtech indicates that the Hero and the Formula share the same VRM.

    Here are Guru3d's thermal images of that VRM in their Hero review, so that is under air cooling.
    Halway down this page, Bit-Tech notes 47C as the maximum observed temperature (chokes) during their testing of the Formula. VRM was air cooled. On the bright side, they say that the chipset fan noise remained below ambient.

    I can't find any other decent reviews that address the VRM in particular, and it's a waste of time for me anyway, but I will also note that Gamer's Nexus took issue with the Formula's design choices in their X570 motherboard video for being crap. I don't really know what we're arguing here, but my position is that the Formula's design is stupid for not including a heatpipe to the chipset to eliminate the chipset fan, that the water block as implemented is less than useless (because let's add heat and restriction to our loop so that we can cool something that doesn't need it), and that the OLED debug screen and water block do not warrant an extra ~$350 over the Hero. One more opinion that you're welcome to disagree with is that the Formula's BIOS isn't going to have magical 4.7+ ghz fairy dust.
     
  12. Furious_Styles

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    Depends on the motherboard whether I'd consider it. No way would I pay $700 for an x570 board. Would probably get more than I'd need spending half that.
     
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    I think I will wait for the budget chipset boards to be released. X550? or whatever they will be named.
     
  14. ole-m

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    my 210 $ one ?
    X570M Pro4, it's the only matx one.. unfortunately.. sometimes you take what you get.
     
  15. sirmonkey1985

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    it'll be the b550 using an asmedia chip.. hopefully they come out pretty quickly but it'll be interesting to see if it's using pcie 4.0 or has a split pcie 4.0/3.0 configuration.
     
  16. Jandor

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    I'd wait X499 if I chose ot spend 700$ on a motherboard.
     
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    I would certainly consider $700 to not have a chipset fan. The extra $400 works out to a bit under $7/month or less for the lifetime I build for. It's not happening this time around, though; I might drop in a new CPU but I don't see a new motherboard in my future until AM5 (or retirement, whichever happens first).

    So, who buys $700 motherboards? maybe someone who is a) easily annoyed or distracted by fan noise, b) earns their living by being on the computer all day long, and c) is going to keep the machine for a few years.
     
  18. blackmomba

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    The more you spend the more of an enthusiast you are tbf
     
  19. Derangel

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    The waterblock is silly nonsense. ASUS actually has good VRMs this time around (been a few years since you could say that about an entire ASUS lineup) and the VRMs on the Hero/Formula barely need the heatsink as is. Even the crappy engineering sample 3950X chips don't stress that VRM. I don't think ANY X570 boards would make any practical use of a waterblock on their VRMs.
     
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    If they can make them so effective, why is it that a crappy 10W PCI-E 4.0 connector is impossible to overcome without a fan?
     
  21. Keljian

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    10w is actually a lot of heat, especially in a small space...
     
  22. Derangel

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    As Kelijan said, 10w in a small space is a lot of heat to dissipate. They can't just slap a big heatsink on there because there is no room due to the proximity to the PCIE slots. That leaves a fan or going the route Gigabyte does on their $700 Auros Extreme and using a heatpipe to connect it to a fairly good VRM heatsink.