Which is a Toldeo and which is Manchester?

[synbios]

Hi,

I can't seem to find the correct answer to this problem.

A retailer sells the AMD 4200 Dual core with the following code: ADA4200DAA5CD. My understanding is that this is a Toledo?
I thought the ADA4200DAA5BV was the Manchester core. However, I queried this with the retailer and they said the info was correct. So I queried again and they said the Manchester cores have 2x512mb L2 and Toledos have 2x1mb L2.

I always thought the E4 stepping was Manchester and E6 Toledo.

Any chance someone shed some light on this please.

Many thanks

 

[(cf)Eclipse]

it is sort of ambiguous, because toledo cores can have 1/2 the cache disabled to make a 'manchester', but it's really a 1/2 cache toledo

the last two letters in the OPN:
CD = toledo
BV = manchester

 

[RogueTrip]

if its a x2 4200+ 939 socket, its a manchester, manchesters where 2x512kb L2.

Edit, The toledo version is the 4400+ x2 running 2.2 ghz with 2x1mb L2

 

[Kasparz]

Its Toledo with half cache. There are Sandiego E6, thats also Toledo with disabled core.

 

[synbios]

Thanks guys.

Another retailer selling the same CPU (with same code) seems to indicate they are Toledo whereas the one I saw informed me they are Manchesters.

Now Im not sure whether to go for one to upgrade my 3700 or if I should

a) wait till AMD announces their new line and hope for a price crash on current 939 dual core or

b) overclock my 3700 (although my mobo isn't the best for overclocking- Asrock 939 dual sata)