What's with these prices? Just trying to find a simple card for wife and i'm floored at the pricing.

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I wanted at most to spend $300 on a card, and all I am seeing is even the most basic cards on EVERY website going for over twice retail. I guess i've been out of the loop for a long time, but it's really disheartening that I finally go to build my wife her own PC that she's been wanting and I can't find anything that's reasonably priced... even used on eBay. a RTX 2060 or a RX 5600 XT would have been fine, but nowhere are they to be found for less than $500+ instead of the $300 I was expecting.
 

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I wanted at most to spend $300 on a card, and all I am seeing is even the most basic cards on EVERY website going for over twice retail. I guess i've been out of the loop for a long time, but it's really disheartening that I finally go to build my wife her own PC that she's been wanting and I can't find anything that's reasonably priced... even used on eBay. a RTX 2060 or a RX 5600 XT would have been fine, but nowhere are they to be found for less than $500+ instead of the $300 I was expecting.
Scalpers and tariff hike has been the cause of recent prices. Mining is also becoming a thing again. Best bet is check out a Microcenter if you have one near you.
 

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...where've you been the past 16 months? XD
I knew the hype and the demand for the Nvidia 30 series was really high and impossible to find, but I didn't think that I couldn't find a 1660 or even any 20 series card within reason. I am just shocked honestly.
 

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I did they only have Quadros in stock.
You got to get there before they open. The earlier the better. They get GPU stocks Tuesday through Friday.

I knew the hype and the demand for the Nvidia 30 series was really high and impossible to find, but I didn't think that I couldn't find a 1660 or even any 20 series card within reason. I am just shocked honestly.
Turing cards are pretty much out of production at this point. MC still gets 5xxx series cards from AMD also.
 

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Yeah I was looking to get a system going and it's like I woke up in 2017 again... everything is sold out and the used market is crazy!
 

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I did they only have Quadros in stock.
Denver?

I've given up on building a new PC anytime soon. I had wanted to early this year but doesn't look like that is going to happen.

They do get stock in occasionally. Most of it tends to be 5600 XT's and 5700 XT's when they get big drops. Scattered in with some RX 570's. Others like the 1660/1650 tends to be onesie twosies, so I think you really do have to camp outside in the morning and be first inside and hope they got some GPU's. And rarely I see some 30-series hit, but usually its just EVGA 3090's.

Anyway myriad of factors going on. COVID related high demand, high shipping costs to move product, new tariffs, renewed crypto mining profitability on GPUs, scalper bots, etc. It's a shitstorm of gamers getting stuck with nothing. If my 980 craps out like a 970 did in the house a few months ago, I guess I am SOL. Needless to say I am incredibly nervous about that, and depressed at the state of the market right now.
 
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If my 980 craps out like a 970 did in the house a few months ago, I guess I am SOL. Needless to say I am incredibly nervous about that, and depressed at the state of the market right now.
Right? Now and then I get a flicker on my screen and I pucker up.
 

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Yes sir! I don't even live in Denver. I have friends that do and I was going to ask them to pick it up for me and ship it.

Most of it tends to be 5600 XT's and 5700 XT's when they get big drops.

Do they show up online when they drop or you just have to go to the store and get lucky? I can't ask my friends to drive to Denver every morning, so if I could place my order online and have them pick it up would be best.
 

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Yes sir! I don't even live in Denver. I have friends that do and I was going to ask them to pick it up for me and ship it.



Do they show up online when they drop or you just have to go to the store and get lucky? I can't ask my friends to drive to Denver every morning, so if I could place my order online and have them pick it up would be best.
They do, but due to scarcity they don't allow online ordering of GPUs anymore. It is only in-store now. So best bet is to line up in the morning and beat the others to them. Personally I don't have time/willingness to do that, but maybe you or your friend's do. If you don't do that, trust me, the cards go fast if there are only a few.
 

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Turing cards are pretty much out of production at this point. MC still gets 5xxx series cards from AMD also.
I wonder how would we know something like this, is there a way:

The
https://deals.dell.com/en-ca/category/gaming
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/category/gaming-desktop-computers/30441

Of the world still seem to mostly selling Turing card (1650 super/ti, 1660, 2060 super, 2070 super)

On the steam survey (for all is worth):
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/?sort=chg

Turing card grew a lot in december.

Is all from fume rest of stock ? I could imagine them having kill all their high end from the Turing (2070 and up) before Ampere release, but considering how long before a 3060/3050 get released, to never have stopped the 1650/1660 and kept the 2060 going for much longer to supply the HP/Asus/Dell/Acer and so on.
 

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Did they flat out stopped Turing production or did they keep making them but for OEMs? Can't remember.

I guess it's not impossible either that such OEMs as Dell still have stock of Turing.
 

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I think I read somewhere the whole RTX 2000 series was out of production. I've only seen them for sale at inflated prices since the end of November or so. You'd think they'd keep the 2060 around until closer to the 3060's release in late February, but I haven't seen one.

I've been kind of keeping an eye on Newegg, Microcenter and Best Buy mostly just due to curiosity. I haven't really paid attention to Amazon. It's to hard to filter out the overpriced marketplace vendors when I'm merely curious. Aside from 3xxx and 6xxx cards that sell out as soon as they drop the best I've seen were various GTX 1660s, and RX 5700XT, 5700 and 5600XT cards. So pay attention to Best Buy. They'll take online orders for pickup. I just checked and Newegg and Best Buy both have 1660 Supers available. Of course it's local pickup a week from now for Best Buy.
 

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They'll have to if they want to sell here. [H] has made it clear that there wont be any scalping.
yeah i know that, its good. im thinking things like a year old gpu at retail price. its not really scalping but that aint right either.
 

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I wanted at most to spend $300 on a card, and all I am seeing is even the most basic cards on EVERY website going for over twice retail. I guess i've been out of the loop for a long time, but it's really disheartening that I finally go to build my wife her own PC that she's been wanting and I can't find anything that's reasonably priced... even used on eBay. a RTX 2060 or a RX 5600 XT would have been fine, but nowhere are they to be found for less than $500+ instead of the $300 I was expecting.
This just isn’t the time to build. The prices are nuts. I wouldn’t pay them, but apparently someone is.
 

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Yep. Not the time to build. Would have more luck finding a oem prebuilt or a laptop with a decent gpu.

Ngreedia stopped turing production just before announcing the new cards. Idiots.

I think there is news there will be 4000 series cards will hit within a year as rdna planning another generation. Wouldn't be suprised if they delay them.
 

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Picked up two RTX 3070s and one RTX 3080 at Microcenter.

I got so lucky this Nov / Dec when I built my son and daughter their very own PC's. They are in grade school and was able to get two RTX 3070s for those builds for each, and 5600X processor. And then got myself one RTX 3080.

All at my local Microcenter, just walked in and grabbed them. No waiting over night, or early before they opened. Just went on my lunch break and bought them.

But that didn't happen in just one trip to MC, no way. I was going there like every other day for about 5 weeks to get all three of those cards. Probably 20 different trips to Microcenter on my lunch break to find those cards. All the other parts they easily have in stock like Memory, Drives, Case, etc...
 
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I think I read somewhere the whole RTX 2000 series was out of production.
If you were talking about this:
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/...roduction-of-turing-gpus-ampere-is-on-the-way

It was misreporting, article was saying this:
A new report suggests Nvidia has halted production of Turing GPUs in preparation for an imminent Ampere ramp-up

while the new report (in chinesse) they talk about and link too was not saying that, but:
According to news from Bobantang, some models of the NVIDIA RTX 20 series have entered the phase of discontinuation and delisting. It is reported that RTX 2070, RTX 2070 Super, RTX 2080 Super, and RTX 2080 Ti have all been discontinued .

This was more accurate in the traduction:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-kill-four-turing-graphics-cards-anticipation-ampere
 

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I got so kucky this Nov / Dec when I built my son and daughter their very own PC's. They are in grade school and was able to get two RTX 3070s for those builds for each, and 5600X processor. And then got myself one RTX 3080.
Wow. Very lucky. Do them a favor and remind them often how lucky they are.

I played with sticks and army men when I was in grade school.
 

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Yep. Not the time to build. Would have more luck finding a oem prebuilt or a laptop with a decent gpu.
^^that. between covid fucking everything up, scalpers and tarriff increases shit is expensive!!
i just looked and my sig system has "increased" in price by ~$400CAN, if you could find a 5700.
 

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Here's our three systems, mines the white;
 

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For real though, if you live near a Microcenter, and your willing to go there often, before lunch time, then you will get a card for sure. It will just take some time, might get one in 2 or 3 visits, or may take 10 different times going there to score a 3060 Ti or something.
 

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5700xt's have been relatively plentiful at my local microcenter. Get there before around 1030AM usually and they'll have something left. When I went in the afternoons they were generally sold out of everything except like a gtx710 or quadro's. For 3xxx series nvidia cards or 6xxx AMD cards you usually need to wait in line or be lucky, but they should have last gen AMD cards at least. Still like $500 or so, but at least they're available.
 

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5700xt's have been relatively plentiful at my local microcenter. Get there before around 1030AM usually and they'll have something left. When I went in the afternoons they were generally sold out of everything except like a gtx710 or quadro's. For 3xxx series nvidia cards or 6xxx AMD cards you usually need to wait in line or be lucky, but they should have last gen AMD cards at least. Still like $500 or so, but at least they're available.

My MC typically has plenty of 5700XT in stock, couple dozen on store shelves. But they are like $450+, which is insane for that card, because a RTX 3070 can be had for $499 and is much better
 

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It's too bad intel can join the fun and make a dedicated gpu just to give us another option.
 

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^^that. between covid fucking everything up, scalpers and tarriff increases shit is expensive!!
i just looked and my sig system has "increased" in price by ~$400CAN, if you could find a 5700.
My V64 is basically worth what it was new 2+ years ago.. Enough said. I thought it was bad the last time this happened but for certain (mining friendly cards) the values are even crazier.
 
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I just got a 3090 TUF (using stock drops - seriously if you want a 3000 series card, use it), and I slapped my EVGA 2070 super on ebay with bids starting at $1, didnt want to scalp or anything, just didnt need it any more. I was expecting $200-$300. It sold for $600 - I paid $520 for it, and used it for a year and half. This is bonkers.
 

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I just got a 3090 TUF (using stock drops - seriously if you want a 3000 series card, use it), and I slapped my EVGA 2070 super on ebay with bids starting at $1, didnt want to scalp or anything, just didnt need it any more. I was expecting $200-$300. It sold for $600 - I paid $520 for it, and used it for a year and half. This is bonkers.
I hate this verify phone number thing. I never hand that out. =/
 

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So, I have BestBuy up with some search parameters. I currently have "exclude out of stock items" checked. Will in stock items come up automatically, or do I have to keep refreshing the screen?
 
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Westwood I didnt have to verify my phone number - just follow them on discord that's where you will get the quickest links/results. Dont bother with page refreshing it will never work ( I tried that for awhile to no avail.) On the Stock drops discord they have an "ATC (Add to cart") link. When something drops click that link within seconds of seeing it pop on discord and you can eventually get something.

Usually newegg drops stock every weekday between 7-8p, so thats when you should be available to check those. Amazon is totally random. Best buy has the best bot protection and is your best bet - they drop stock every other Tuesday, usually in the afternoon between 11AM-1PM EST. But if you have that discord notification server running all day, that is the way to go.

Edit: it's also worth sporadically checking shopBLT.com - they take preorders for expected incoming stock. I had two preorders in for 3080s from Shopblt while I still tried to buy from a traditional retailer. I was lucky and able to get a MSRP 3090, so I cancelled the 3080 preorders. Good backup plan if you are on the hunt
 

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Westwood I didnt have to verify my phone number - just follow them on discord that's where you will get the quickest links/results. Dont bother with page refreshing it will never work ( I tried that for awhile to no avail.) On the Stock drops discord they have an "ATC (Add to cart") link. When something drops click that link within seconds of seeing it pop on discord and you can eventually get something.

Usually newegg drops stock every weekday between 7-8p, so thats when you should be available to check those. Amazon is totally random. Best buy has the best bot protection and is your best bet - they drop stock every other Tuesday, usually in the afternoon between 11AM-1PM EST. But if you have that discord notification server running all day, that is the way to go.

Edit: it's also worth sporadically checking shopBLT.com - they take preorders for expected incoming stock. I had two preorders in for 3080s from Shopblt while I still tried to buy from a traditional retailer. I was lucky and able to get a MSRP 3090, so I cancelled the 3080 preorders. Good backup plan if you are on the hunt
Ono the StockDrop Discord, which channel am I clicking on to get notifications?

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"Note: You require a phone verified discord account in order to receive stock updates from us. This is not negotiable, and we will not go around this rule. We cannot verify your account for you and if you are having issues, contact discord support. "

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Wow I definitely don't remember doing that - maybe I had verified my phone number earlier before I signed up for the stock drops channel. Sorry man. Maybe worth getting a google number that you just use to verify stuff? Those discord notifications are truly the only way to get a 3000 series card right now.
 

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I got lucky and got what I needed before the tariff hikes. I"LL be damned if they think I will pay $600 for a damn 3060ti.
 

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I just got a 3090 TUF (using stock drops - seriously if you want a 3000 series card, use it), and I slapped my EVGA 2070 super on ebay with bids starting at $1, didnt want to scalp or anything, just didnt need it any more. I was expecting $200-$300. It sold for $600 - I paid $520 for it, and used it for a year and half. This is bonkers.
Thanks, just signed up for that and also went ahead and put in for the 3080 Strix shuffle...why not at this point. See what happens.
 

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Not for music if these are the one's I'm thinking of.

They boosted the bass at 125hz for gaming explosion punch and reduced it below that to keep the power available for that frequency. Music with deep bass sounds muddy and ill-defined because of it.

And the failing control towers (backlights).
 
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