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I expect that they will display content on my monitor.
I'm going to pull some info out of my ass: apparently both GPUs will make all of our wildest dreams come true.
Nvidia will launch cards that will have performance per dollar close to or the same as the current crop of cards, which means cards faster than 2080Tis will cost significantly more.
Prediction:
AMD will have subpar DXR performance compared to NVIDIA (like with tesselation) so prepare for a lot of "Too much DXR" whine.
DLSS will make AMD try and push FFX (which has less image quality) as an "solution"....gone are the days of raw rasterized performance.
Raw performance will certainly always have its place.Your only pushing that stance because your afraid that AMD might have more rasterization performance then Nvidia this upcoming round. The days of raw performance are never gone.
If AMD has a ridiculous raster performance advantage I would really have to rethink how much I want to play with raytracing this gen. I bought a 2080ti and was so underwhelmed I down graded to a 2080 just to play with it later.AMD might even have the raster performance crown for a moment. I don't doubt it. Ray tracing, though, I don't know. It will be their first gen versus Nvidia second-gen. So this might not be a win.
Also, DLSS is a big deal. That alone could be a differentiating factor, even given price and performance parity from AMD.
Assuming AMD doesn't have a competitive solution, they could still gain some customers due to raster performance working in literally every PC game to date, not the couple with ray tracing and DLSS.
So we'll have to see.
Raw performance will certainly always have its place.
Question is, will it be as important moving forward as it used to be?
Optimization and AI driven solutions will play in more and more for regular gamers. Especially low/mid range gamers.
Raw performance will matter for benchmarkers and competition pro's (for now).
In the end, Most people will not give a fuck why their game runs at 144fps 1440p with great visuals.
As long as it does is all that matters.
No one knows for sure yet. However, nvidia came with HDMI 2.0 before amd by a full generation. Hopefully they both have HDMI 2.1 this time. As I plan on getting a 48cx from LG in the mid to near future, this is an important factor to me for 4k 120fps.Does anybody know if both AMD and NVIDIA GPU's will feature HDMI 2.1? Been stuck on HDMI 2.0 for years now and would like to see some 4K 120Hz goodness.
Does anybody know if both AMD and NVIDIA GPU's will feature HDMI 2.1? Been stuck on HDMI 2.0 for years now and would like to see some 4K 120Hz goodness.
No one knows for sure yet. However, nvidia came with HDMI 2.0 before amd by a full generation. Hopefully they both have HDMI 2.1 this time. As I plan on getting a 48cx from LG in the mid to near future, this is an important factor to me for 4k 120fps.
Two cards at the same time, man.I'm going to pull some info out of my ass: apparently both GPUs will make all of our wildest dreams come true.
We have no idea.
AMD has been very quiet, no leaks at all except some information from next gen cosoles (that have been rather quiet too).
Nvidia rumors are all over the place. From +10% over 2080Ti to +70%. Latest benchmark of A100 ampere show about 40% improvement, which some claim means 3080Ti will be 30% over 2080Ti.
There's absolutely no reliable info to go on.
Real competition might have some say in that narrative. We should all hopeI don't see the 2080Ti taking a hit in price and expect to pay 30% more as it's Nvidia and that's the benchmark they always lead in .
Not anymore, but I used to get NDAs followed by hardware that wasn't even announced yet back when I used to do some 3d programmable shader work. They send me free hardware I would do some neat affects they could put into their demo's and development packages. But, even then, it was both green and red, so still no real preference. I just like good competition and to see how much you can do with what you have to work with.What I expect.... is better performing products than the last.
I think that's a fair assessment.
I never can understand guys fighting about who will crush whom.
Are you paid by either Nvidia or AMD?
Do they send you free hardware?
No?...Then pray that the competition is close enough to keep pricing from being artificially inflated beyond what is considered reasonable.
In the end, I don't have to have the outright fastest GPU.
I just need to have a fast GPU relative to costs.
I never can understand guys fighting about who will crush whom.
This is about my expectations as well, either way I hope at least AMD can slowly chip away at the performance lead. Seems Rdna brought them much closer to parity on performance per transistor (compared to Vega). So hopefully rdna2 closes that gap a bit more. Then it'll just be about who wants to put more transistors on a single die, so far it looks like Nvidia hasn't been as why doing so. The other unknowns are rt performance and dlss improvements and/or competition.Tribalism is a strong force for most humans. It's the nerd version of rooting for their favorite sports team. Does it make sense that people get into fights/brawls over sports teams? IOW Humans are often kind of irrational.
What to expect:
Closest race in ages. But that won't bring any kind of price war. For most of the range, there will be corresponding cards from both sides with similar price and similar performance. AMD will offer nearly insignificant improvement in price/performance, over the corresponding NVidia options.
So Perf/$ will only improve a bit. A bigger improvement near the high end, mediocre improvement in the midrange, and negligible improvement in the low range.
The only deviation from the essentially parity will be in the highest end.
AMD and NViida will each release a card that outperforms the 2080Ti, and it will be priced similarly ($800+). This will be the RTX 3080, AMD 6900 or similar name. AMD might be ahead here as this will be their top part.
But NVidia will have a gonzo top end card above that, which will make no sense to most people, pushing up the top price once again with it's 3090/Titan or whatever they call it, starting at $1200-$1500... NVidia will "keep the crown" with a card that even less people buy than the previous generation top end, which fewer people bought, than the previous generation.
people think that titan/ti cards are a really small niche marketTribalism is a strong force for most humans. It's the nerd version of rooting for their favorite sports team. Does it make sense that people get into fights/brawls over sports teams? IOW Humans are often kind of irrational.
What to expect:
Closest race in ages. But that won't bring any kind of price war. For most of the range, there will be corresponding cards from both sides with similar price and similar performance. AMD will offer nearly insignificant improvement in price/performance, over the corresponding NVidia options.
So Perf/$ will only improve a bit. A bigger improvement near the high end, mediocre improvement in the midrange, and negligible improvement in the low range.
The only deviation from the essentially parity will be in the highest end.
AMD and NViida will each release a card that outperforms the 2080Ti, and it will be priced similarly ($800+). This will be the RTX 3080, AMD 6900 or similar name. AMD might be ahead here as this will be their top part.
But NVidia will have a gonzo top end card above that, which will make no sense to most people, pushing up the top price once again with it's 3090/Titan or whatever they call it, starting at $1200-$1500... NVidia will "keep the crown" with a card that even less people buy than the previous generation top end, which fewer people bought, than the previous generation.
people think that titan/ti cards are a really small niche market
Not even 1% of gamers have a 2080 Ti according to Steam.NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
0.85%
and the 5700xt is below the RTX 2080ti, so your point is?Not even 1% of gamers have a 2080 Ti according to Steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
people think that titan/ti cards are a really small niche market
but historically they have been good sellers for nvidia
The point being the 2080 Ti is not a hot seller in terms of volume (though maybe Nvidia makes up for that in margin).and the 5700xt is below the RTX 2080ti, so your point is?