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130w on the cooler is wrong then, I wissh the TDP scale was better. I am wanting a Ryzen 9 5900/50x in a SG05 with no underclocking/volting required, any smaller coolers that can handle that CPU as it comes? Or any short cases that can fit a bigger cooler?I would think any of the 65W CPUs should work fine. If you start moving up to the 105W ones, I think you'd run into throttling issues, especially in a smaller case.
139w on the cooler is wrong then, I wissh the TDP scale was better. I am wanting a Ryzen 9 5900/50x in a SG05 with no underclocking/volting required, any smaller coolers that can handle that CPU as it comes? Or aby short cases that can fit a bigger cooler?
You might be able to do that if you turn on "Eco" mode in Ryzen master (or the equivalent setting in bios). It pretty much hard caps it at the 105W, and you might be able to get away with it.
If the chip is not 105w why would AMD's site say that
, got me all exited. The TDP system needs a refresh.
Basically what kirbyrj is saying is that your cooler might be able to cool a 5900x or 5950x sufficiently in a cpu only load in a case with proper airflow while the video card is idling, however if your video card is stressing and is dumping hot air into your case then the ability of your cpu cooler to cool a loaded 5900x or 5950x is diminished since the hot air can’t absorb as much heat. That’s why we generally oversize the cooler to compensateWho knows. But either way, a 5900x or 5950x is going to draw somewhat more than the 130W TDP of the cooler, and from what I've read, that 130W TDP rating of the cooler is generous. To put it in perspective, I have a Noctua D9L which is rated to 140W (or 165W depending on where you read), and it barely cools a 5600x in a small case with a higher end video card.
Marketing basically. Both Intel and AMD do it and to a degree the chips support it when they're running "as advertised", however they no longer run "as advertised" out-of-the-box in many instances due to newer boost algorithms that allow free boosting (all-core up to rated max boost, if possible) and use as much juice as is deemed safe, within motherboard default settings. They basically market TDP and stock boost clocks as half-truths because you either get one or the other under specific circumstances.If the chip is not 105w why would AMD's site say that
, got me all exited. The TDP system needs a refresh.
Welcome to the reality.If the chip is not 105w why would AMD's site say that
, got me all exited. The TDP system needs a refresh.
What a odd system they came up with.Welcome to the reality.
PS don't look into how money is printed! If you think you have issues with TDP well...I don't want to ruin your life\
And isn't Intel the bigger culprit here? Not sure, so just asking?
Even a 360mm CLC with fans at 2,000 RPM (coolant at ~30°C) has issues cooling the 105w parts outside of specification (e.g PPT = 165W).I would think any of the 65W CPUs should work fine. If you start moving up to the 105W ones, I think you'd run into throttling issues, especially in a smaller case.
I had no issues running a 5950x in a Sliger S610 case, with an EK 240mm AIO with Be Quiet fans.Even a 360mm CLC with fans at 2,000 RPM (coolant at ~30°C) has issues cooling the 105w parts outside of specification (e.g PPT = 165W).
I had no issues running a 5950x in a Sliger S610 case, with an EK 240mm AIO with Be Quiet fans.
edward78 I would suggest looking at a different case. There are better designs around the same size as the SG05, which give your more cooling options. Including newer SG cases from Silverstone.
Of course a larger cooler will give better temps.I had one in a Coolermaster NR200 with a Corsair H100x. I definitely got better thermals pulling it into an ATX system with a larger case and larger cooler though.