What Mouse and Keyboard Are You Using Right Now?

Zepher

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Apple Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse.
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Mad Maxx

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This is the best keyboard for typing I've ever used - Logitech MX Keys. My only gripe is that it's not available in tenkeyless. That aside, it's so easy and comfortable to type quickly and accurately on the MX. It's very well-built, too. I wouldn't recommend it for gaming, but if you're a writer or coder, you'll love this keyboard.

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I found a scissor switch keyboard that solves my only complaint about the Logitech MX Keys I raved about over a year ago.

Logitech MX Keys Mini!! (y)

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Zarathustra[H]

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Apple Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse.
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Serious question, not trying to troll.

Do you actually LIKE typing on those flat chiclet keys, or is it more of a choice out of aesthetics?

Personally I'd choose almost anything over one of those flat chiclet/island designs, including 90's rubber dome keyboards.

This is the primary reason I am still using a laptop from 2011. I can't buy one with a decent keyboard anymore. They are all these awful flat chiclet/island designs now.
 

Nobu

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Serious question, not trying to troll.

Do you actually LIKE typing on those flat chiclet keys, or is it more of a choice out of aesthetics?

Personally I'd choose almost anything over one of those flat chiclet/island designs, including 90's rubber dome keyboards.

This is the primary reason I am still using a laptop from 2011. I can't buy one with a decent keyboard anymore. They are all these awful flat chiclet/island designs now.
Some are really nice–had a laptop with some that I really liked. Also had a cheap Logitech kb that hurt my fingertips because the actuation force was too much and when it dropped I would bottom out.
 

Zarathustra[H]

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Well, almost 3 years later and I'm still on the same Model M and same trackball. :D I'm not one for change, haha--especially when it's already perfect! :)

And come to think of it, it's been at least 8 years on this set (so 5 years before I started the thread) and prior to that it was at least 7 years on maybe this set or one of my spares of the same thing. :eek: And I guess if I want to go back even further, I started typing on the Model M in 1989 so that's what...30+ years. :eek::eek::eek::nailbiting::nailbiting: Damn I'm old. :(:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I'm not sure about the trackball, I could never get used to those (do you actually use it for games?) but it is tough to beat a Model M for delicious typing. You'd have to find an old Model F, and that's about it.

I used Model M's for years. My first PC came with one back in 1991. Throughout the 90's I got stuck with various rubber dome boards, and always felt something was missing, but never looked into it. Got back into Model M's in 2005. You could still pick one up in perfect shape on eBay for like $30 back then. It is crazy what they cost now.

Amazing to type on. Aesthetically, less than pleasing.

Then I solved the second part by up a Black Model M13 Trackpoint II. I loved that thing.

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Only downside was the keycaps. The regular beige/grey Model M's used dye sublimated keycaps. They would never wear off. You obviously can't do this with black keys, so they pad printed white letters on them, and then used a thin clear coat to try to protect them.

Unfortunately it took me only about 2 years to wear through the protectant and make it look all ugly. For a while I got replacement keycaps from Unicomp. I replaced them twice, but the third time they informed me that they had stopped making them, and that I just bought the last set. Understanding that I had a somewhat rare keyboard, I cleaned it up, replaced the caps, and put it in storage, not wanting to ruin something rare.

That's when I replaced it with the modern Unicomp designs. They were not bad, but the fit and finish was a downgrade from the old Model M's, and they also were nowhere near as solid.

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It was nice to have the windows key and USB though (although the USB controller was very slow to initialize making it difficult to hit DEL to get into BIOS, requiring many retries.

After a few years I started looking around for alternatives. I wanted something aesthetically a little newer looking, maybe with mildly backlit keys to help in a dark room (I can mostly type without looking but I never learned to properly touch type. it's funny. As long as I am not thinking about typing without looking I can do it perfectly. As long as I try to consciously be all like "look at me, I'm typing without looking" it fails completely)

After much research and disappointment in the options, I wound up with a black Ducky One (the first one) with white backlit keys and Cherry MX Green (clicky, very heavy, to try to mimic the Model M experience)

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Ducky makes some great keyboards. Very solid (as far as modern boards go, not original Model M style) and excellent fit and finish.

They biggest weakness is not their own fault. It's simply that try as much as you might, no Cherry MX or Cherry MX clone switch will ever live up to the Model M's buckling springs.

It's nice to ahve some backlight, and a slightly more modern stylish look though. Native USB and NKRO also doesn't hurt, but it is a compromize at best.

I've often wished that someone would come along, license the Buckling Spring technology from Unicomp and apply it in a modern industrial designed keyboard with back-lighting, and a completely reworked control board to allow for NKRO and native USB.

Heck, if I found myself with millions of dollars and no dea what to do with them, I'd take it on as a passion project. Unfortunately, that is not me.
 
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Zarathustra[H]

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Some are really nice–had a laptop with some that I really liked. Also had a cheap Logitech kb that hurt my fingertips because the actuation force was too much and when it dropped I would bottom out.

I feel like we probably type very differently.

I am a very heavy typer. I smash every key into submission. Bottoming out doesn't begin to describe it. I like the heaviest keys possible, probably due to decades of typing on IBM Model M's
 

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I feel like we probably type very differently.

I am a very heavy typer. I smash every key into submission. Bottoming out doesn't begin to describe it. I like the heaviest keys possible, probably due to decades of typing on IBM Model M's
It's not so much that the actuation force was too much, more that the difference between before the detent and after was too much, so the key would slam down if you didn't use just enough force.

I'm happy with MX Browns, for reference. I haven't used any other cherry switches, so can't say if they're my favorite.
 

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I finally got a switch testing kit for Cherry, Outemu and Gateron switches. My personal takeaway is that I really prefer linear switches for both typing and gaming. Blue switches clickity clack really annoys the hell out of me, browns are decent but the bump doesn't really do it for me. It kinda made me feel like i was double clicking a button at times?
I honestly think i'd do best with silver speed switches but I haven't built a keyboard out of them yet. Easy to presss, low actuation points seems to be my thing.

I picked up a couple cheap mechanical keyboards over the past few months, tried smaller sizes as I was mostly looking to find something that i can use with my laptop. Turns out 60% without dedicated arrow keys are fucking antithesis of how I use a keyboard. So that didn't last long. I then picked up a 63%, same form factor but a smaller shift so that it can have dedicated arrow keys and i'm pretty happy with it. Currently using a Dierya DK63 white with red switches and it can fit in my laptop bag and also connect to a lot of things with bluetooth.

https://smile.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Bluetooth-Wireless-Multi-Device/dp/B091THNWVM/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=dierya+dk63&qid=1634162353&sr=8-3&th=1

I did modify it a little and I present to you: My Bulba Board.
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revenant

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Some are really nice–had a laptop with some that I really liked. Also had a cheap Logitech kb that hurt my fingertips because the actuation force was too much and when it dropped I would bottom out.
yeah my little Dell laptop has rubber topped chiclet style key and I can fly on that one.. it's remarkably easy to type on... but a full sized kb with mechanical keys are my ideal.
 

Zepher

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Serious question, not trying to troll.

Do you actually LIKE typing on those flat chiclet keys, or is it more of a choice out of aesthetics?

Personally I'd choose almost anything over one of those flat chiclet/island designs, including 90's rubber dome keyboards.

This is the primary reason I am still using a laptop from 2011. I can't buy one with a decent keyboard anymore. They are all these awful flat chiclet/island designs now.
Ya, I actually like the flat keys. I don't use that mac keyboard much but I do use Logitech G815's on my main rigs and the flat style keys feel much nicer than traditional keys for typing.
 

jologskyblues

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I also like high quality, tactile scissor switch low profile keys on some laptops and apple keyboards. I seem to type most accurately with them.

That said, I have come across a lot of low quality chicklet-style laptop keys and keyboards and they do suck.
 
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