What is your "coping" strategy for the time until you can get a latest-model Nvidia/AMD GPU?

Joined
Jan 16, 2013
Messages
2,318
Because we're in the GPU subthread and this thread is about the difficulty of trying to buy one?

And of course there is nuance but to chalk it up to inflation just doesn't make sense. Again why did all the manufacturers raise prices recently, did they say inflation caused them to? No it was tariffs...
 

undertaker2k8

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Jul 25, 2012
Messages
1,245
Because we're in the GPU subthread and this thread is about the difficulty of trying to buy one?

And of course there is nuance but to chalk it up to inflation just doesn't make sense. Again why did all the manufacturers raise prices recently, did they say inflation caused them to? No it was tariffs...
Everyone knows whose great idea it was to impose tariffs because they thought a certain country would pay them, someone who clearly would have flunked econ 101.
 
D

Deleted member 204526

Guest
Simply to try and forget GPUs exist. Coming here is pretty self-defeating in that regard. I can't help myself though.
 

WilyKit

Weaksauce
Joined
Dec 18, 2020
Messages
117
Everyone knows whose great idea it was to impose tariffs because they thought a certain country would pay them, someone who clearly would have flunked econ 101.

Thats not the idea behind the tariffs. The idea behind them is that it would make products made in China more expensive and incentivize manufacturers to not make those products in China. Personally I agree with that sentiment. This chip shortage and early days of the pandemic is proof enough for me that there’s too much reliance in one country producing the goods we consume.
 

Parja

[H]F Junkie
Joined
Oct 4, 2002
Messages
12,522
I just keep buying more 3070s to drown my sorrows. Wait, what was the problem again?
 

undertaker2k8

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Jul 25, 2012
Messages
1,245
Thats not the idea behind the tariffs. The idea behind them is that it would make products made in China more expensive and incentivize manufacturers to not make those products in China. Personally I agree with that sentiment. This chip shortage and early days of the pandemic is proof enough for me that there’s too much reliance in one country producing the goods we consume.
Yea sure that's why a very stable genius kept saying China will pay the tariffs a million times...not to mention they retaliated in kind against US agriculture. I am all for reducing dependence on China but this was just ill conceived and implemented.
 
Last edited:

somebrains

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Nov 10, 2013
Messages
1,579
2080 super saturates a 1440p 165hz panel at competitive FPS graphics settings just fine.
2060 I’d turn on dlss
None of the games I play benefit me if I crank the graphics settings up.
 

Nenu

[H]ardened
Joined
Apr 28, 2007
Messages
19,667
I just looked at Ebay for 3060 Ti cards and it's obvious the scalpers rule there. So I've had to think how I'm going to cope before prices come down to something normal, whatever that means. And based on news reports, I don't expect to get that 3060 Ti until sometime in 2022.

What's your strategy?
Wait until next gen and buy it asap.
 

somebrains

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Nov 10, 2013
Messages
1,579
2022 you buy a 4060ti for msrp.
Let the miners drown in 30x0 gpus.
Hopefully it scales up to just under a 2080ti equivalent performance.
 

rinaldo00

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Mar 9, 2005
Messages
1,753
been repairing gpus for a long time now and been buying and fixing raped mining cards to put it simple gpu swaps and replacing vram chips

also found a fix for the space invaders artifacts the rtx cards get looks to be bad vram as well but thay still display vs the gtx 10 and 9 cards that give u blsck screen :p to make it worse vrams not cheap at 38$ to 50 chip when ur changing all the vram on the cards there will be lots of dead rtx cards so ill get my hands on one way or another lol


ps if any "gamers" need there gpus repaired pm me with some info of the problem to also got few fs if any one wants upgrades i also buy part cards to and repair and reball consoles to

Here you go, a broken 3080 FE sold for parts

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324629541561?hash=item4b956db2b9:g:IpsAAOSwMhlgosDW

Just $820 ;)
 

Ripskin

2[H]4U
Joined
Jan 15, 2004
Messages
2,345
Be happy I bought a good one that can still kick a bit until a complete rebuild becomes a possibility. Sadly cant do off cycle of PC vs GPU alternating every few years due to this but oh well. Not that big of a deal.
 

sMiLeYz

Limp Gawd
Joined
Jan 24, 2003
Messages
463
Seriously. If you're not buying 50-100 GPUs per month, I really have to question someone's commitment.

I aim for a 3070 every week. Dunno about anybody else.

Best week ever was 3 weeks ago.

FB_IMG_1621884750555.jpg
 

buttons

2[H]4U
Joined
Oct 12, 2011
Messages
2,073
i sold my 5700xt months ago for $575 profit, then bought a gaming laptop. instead of using the gaming laptop, i use my gaming desktop with a $67 firepro W7000 because i am to lazy to move mouse, keyboard, headphones, monitor over. I tried a KVM but it wont wake up when the pc goes to sleep. Also, more outdoors time.
 

lopoetve

Fully [H]
Joined
Oct 11, 2001
Messages
31,371
Effort? What effort did you put in to get those cards? I haven't even seen a 3 series graphics card listed for sale bellow 2x msrp since they released. Current retail price for 3080s here is $3500. So if by effort you mean paying 5x MSRP, then you are right. Why do you assume that everyone is in the same situation and has the same opportunities as you?
I managed to get a 3080, 3070, and two 6800XT early on. Now it’s just luck in the Newegg shuffle, but back then you could (till late January). Bought a 3090 from someone here so I could give my 3080 to a friend.
 

TheSlySyl

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
May 30, 2018
Messages
1,263
Sticking with my 1080Ti in my computer and the money that was originally gonna go for a 3080 went instead to this absolutely beautiful thing:

https://www.amazon.com/TCL-Dolby-Vision-QLED-Smart/dp/B08C67986B

Honestly, the 75inch truly full HDR TV has gotten more use out of the whole family than that 3080 ever would. This beauty has a better picture and field of view domination that's better than any local theater.
Not that we've been able to go to the theater since we bought it. (We went once, decided that our living room setup was *better* and I doubt we'll bother going again if they keep doing same day digital releases.)
 

Shadowarez

Gawd
Joined
Jul 8, 2019
Messages
546
whats making this even worse is TechTubers getting free Tech. ten when they destroy said tech they get more sent to them i mean come on these guys show off hoards of gpus, and comp tech, yet they dont have to pay and get free tech even when they wipe there ass with it or break it.

manufacturers need to stop supplying these guys with fee sht seriously, iv unsubbed a few channels becuase the douches running them keep showing off like hahahaha look what i get for free oooooohhhh now i bricked this hard toget gpu i got for for free.. hey (Insert Manufacturer) i broke that $3000 gpu/motherboard send me another one for free thanks i cant pay you for it ill make a vid on how i broke it though k thx by /rant
 

lopoetve

Fully [H]
Joined
Oct 11, 2001
Messages
31,371
whats making this even worse is TechTubers getting free Tech. ten when they destroy said tech they get more sent to them i mean come on these guys show off hoards of gpus, and comp tech, yet they dont have to pay and get free tech even when they wipe there ass with it or break it.

manufacturers need to stop supplying these guys with fee sht seriously, iv unsubbed a few channels becuase the douches running them keep showing off like hahahaha look what i get for free oooooohhhh now i bricked this hard toget gpu i got for for free.. hey (Insert Manufacturer) i broke that $3000 gpu/motherboard send me another one for free thanks i cant pay you for it ill make a vid on how i broke it though k thx by /rant
They generally have to return that; there are only so many loaners in the pool and they get passed around quite a bit. The real ones, that is - the others get banned fast.
 

Shadowarez

Gawd
Joined
Jul 8, 2019
Messages
546
the channels i unsubbed from have hoards of gear even stated building these without his own parts and when he destroyed the ones he was given, he wouldnt use his own just went and asked for new gear. like were in very depression like state for tech yet its handed freely to these douchers, i know they have to return some but lately it seems they havent had to. supply is split so badly, consoles,prebuilts,labtops,direct sales to mineres, scalpers buying by pallets,tehctubers getting as as many gpus as they want when they wanna do build videos, then us consumers trying to get 1 for our own builds or friends,
 

undertaker2k8

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Jul 25, 2012
Messages
1,245
Guess my luck has finally ran out, all I have to show for May so far is a 3060 from Lord Bezos that doesn't look to ship anytime soon and some xbox series x's, the lowest hanging fruit of this season. No shuffle win in almost 2 months 😢 Then again this means I can actually use my time to use the PCs I already have so all good 😊
 

LukeTbk

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Sep 10, 2020
Messages
1,144
whats making this even worse is TechTubers getting free Tech. ten when they destroy said tech they get more sent to them

If you mean on your own moral worse sure, but if you make the situation worse:

Comprehensive-Overview.png

End of year quarterly discrete gpus sales were over 10 millions units, if all youtubes and other of the world destroyed 1,000 cards that would be a rounding error.
 

Shadowarez

Gawd
Joined
Jul 8, 2019
Messages
546
then it is time to do what tech yes city showed become a "company" and buy these things by the pallet from a Distributer that only sells to companys like newegg/micro/bestbuy some serious loop holes in this. basicly Tech Yes City scummy but people+opportunity to make quick money by being scummy.
 

lopoetve

Fully [H]
Joined
Oct 11, 2001
Messages
31,371
then it is time to do what tech yes city showed become a "company" and buy these things by the pallet from a Distributer that only sells to companys like newegg/micro/bestbuy some serious loop holes in this. basicly Tech Yes City scummy but people+opportunity to make quick money by being scummy.
Don’t even need to be a company, just get enough people to buy in to place a mass order from a distributor - but we’re talking a LOT of GPUs, and payment up front generally (or net 30), which means you’ve got to have a lot of working capital to do so. And then distribution from the one shipment center, etc. you got 150k sitting around?
 

Shadowarez

Gawd
Joined
Jul 8, 2019
Messages
546
its sad state that itd have to be done this way as for having 150k thatd be doable but have to mortgage the house (worth 550k) would be risky and doable but youd have to be a sht person to make the money back and unfortunately i cant do what scalpers do itd kill me on inside.
 

madFive

metal[H]ead
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
9,048
My beloved 2070-Super has started making weird clicking noises whenever the fans turn on... really hoping this doesn't mean I gotta do something stupid-spendy in the near future...

So yeah, I've been holding out for a 3080 TI, but I'm not ok with spending over about $800, fuck spending $1400+ on a GPU. Waiting to see benchmarks vs prices to decide if I want the 3080TI or waiting for a 3070TI... and luckily I live right next-door to a Microcenter, and I don't plan to buy more than once a month (or more than once in the next 3 years), so I have a decent chance at getting a card, but I still have a feeling this is going to be the most painful retail tech purchase of my entire life...
 

RazorWind

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 11, 2001
Messages
3,969
My beloved 2070-Super has started making weird clicking noises whenever the fans turn on... really hoping this doesn't mean I gotta do something stupid-spendy in the near future...

So yeah, I've been holding out for a 3080 TI, but I'm not ok with spending over about $800, fuck spending $1400+ on a GPU. Waiting to see benchmarks vs prices to decide if I want the 3080TI or waiting for a 3070TI... and luckily I live right next-door to a Microcenter, and I don't plan to buy more than once a month (or more than once in the next 3 years), so I have a decent chance at getting a card, but I still have a feeling this is going to be the most painful retail tech purchase of my entire life...
You should be able to get replacement fans pretty easily, but you could also set up a fan curve that keeps the fans spinning. That’s probably the best thing you can do for the longevity of the card, other than water cooling.
 

M76

[H]F Junkie
Joined
Jun 12, 2012
Messages
11,967
I managed to get a 3080, 3070, and two 6800XT early on. Now it’s just luck in the Newegg shuffle, but back then you could (till late January). Bought a 3090 from someone here so I could give my 3080 to a friend.
Yeah, Central Europe is entirely another story. There are no walk-in stores stocking hi-end videocards. The availabilty of computer parts in electronics store chains is restricted to a few 1-2TB hard drives, and maybe some low end ram sticks.
And the online ones asked scalper prices from day1. It was about 2xMSRP when the 3080 was first listed, now it's 5x.
 

Comixbooks

Fully [H]
Joined
Jun 7, 2008
Messages
16,812
I caved into scalpers but if I waited like three months I could of got a EVGA card I signed up for a 3070 I could of bought two of them but missed the 1st one and canceled the 2nd one. I paid 830.00 for my 3070 EVGA FTW but now it's going for a few hundred more. I made money during the COVID deal at Walmart risking my life basically cleaning bathroom sweeping floors and stocking with customers not wearing masks 2020 was rough the last thing I was worried about were GPUs but I still had to have one =)
 

J3RK

[H]F Junkie
Joined
Jun 25, 2004
Messages
9,731
I'm running two MiSTers and playing all my old favorite games, until I can play my new favorite games again the way I want to play them (for a price I'm willing to pay). :D I've been playing a ton of indies on my Switch, and tons of old PC Engine shooters, among other things. I'm coping just fine. :D Eventually though, I'm going to want a new GPU. I'm just ignoring it for now though.
 

wyqtor

Limp Gawd
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
465
I play games with laughably low graphic requirements like Factorio, though fortunately thanks to my 2070 I can also afford playing Subnautica: Below Zero, Transport Fever 2, or Satisfactory maxed out at 1080p. I still have a full HD monitor and probably would have got at least a 1440p one if I could get a video card to properly drive it.
 

notarat

2[H]4U
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
2,250
My coping strategy is to get the parts I can get at MSRP (PSU/RAM) and patiently wait for the ones I can't. I already have M.2s and SSDs and 10Gb NICs and a case

I've been lucky recently...picked up a Dark Hero board at Amazon for $449.99 (Arrives Friday) and a 5950X for only a $120 mark-up over MSRP (arrives this weekend)

The video card....patience...patience...it'll happen...it'll happen...
 

Sir Beregond

Limp Gawd
Joined
Oct 12, 2020
Messages
284
I play games with laughably low graphic requirements like Factorio, though fortunately thanks to my 2070 I can also afford playing Subnautica: Below Zero, Transport Fever 2, or Satisfactory maxed out at 1080p. I still have a full HD monitor and probably would have got at least a 1440p one if I could get a video card to properly drive it.
I'm replaying Subnautica gearing up for a Below Zero run. Haven't tried playing it since they redid the whole story in early access. Now that it's 1.0, figured it was time. Forgot how much I enjoyed Subnautica.

I'm on a 1440p monitor and can run Subnautica at full graphics with my 980. Other modern games, eh not so much. Now if my work can stop botching my paychecks horribly, maybe I can finally finish my 5600X/3070 new rig.

For me, their site sucked, but I managed to snag a Zotac 3070 during one of their drops. Key was to already be logged in ahead of the drop and as long as you go it quick, even if the site bugged out it stayed in my cart. But this was back in February.
 

bobzdar

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Jun 6, 2003
Messages
1,849
Shrug...I paid $150 over msrp as I could see no end in sight to the elevated prices. Looks like a bargain 6 months later. I dunno, at this stage I'd probably just get a high powered laptop instead. The price premium over building a desktop (even at msrp) is at an all time low and the performance deficit is as well - the Asus g15 with 5900H and 3070 would slay most stuff, even at 4k. I briefly thought about selling off my desktop and just using my laptop and maybe buying another project car or two, but prices on those have gone through the roof, too....
 
Top