What do you need to build a Gaming PC?

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  1. BrovoTheta

    BrovoTheta n00b

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    I want to build my first gaming PC my total budget is $850usd. I only know what case I am getting: http://www.mountainmods.com/itx-trg-p-753.html. But I am lost on what the inside should be composed of. I need some recomendations on what would work.
     
  2. whateverer

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    Now is not a good time to build a new system. There seems to be some stupid mining craze that's buying-up all the midrange graphics cards.

    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/251379-cryptocurrency-craze-sends-gpu-prices-skyrocketing

    They use graphics cards to create cryptographic money. The only cards that are selling for regular price is the GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti, and I think those are a little out of your price-range :D

    Maybe try back in a couple ,months when the makers have caught-up with demand?

    At least this time the miners can use both Nvidia and AMD cards, so the demand should be met much faster. Nvidia ships way more cards than AMD does.
     
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  3. BrovoTheta

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    Oh ok, thank you for the information, I was thinking of buying one part of the pc each month in order to save some money month by month
     
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    Wait, what? Oh, are you saying you don't have the cash now?

    Well then this timing is perfect :D

    I'd wait until you have the whole set of cash before you start buying parts. You'll just be sitting on the warranty of your parts (most are three years, some less), and you will have no way of testing things until you have at least everything except the video card. And that's over half the cost of your system.

    Plus if you buy within the return period of your retailer, you can avoid the longer wait of an RMA, if you buy something that's dead-on-arrival.

    Do you live near a Microcenter? They tend to have impressive deals. And is a monitor part of that build price, or were you just going to hook it up to your TV?
     
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    Im not sure if this is classified as hihacking this thread, please tell me if it is, but does anyone have an idea how long this mining craze will last?
     
  6. whateverer

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    Last one lasted over 6 months.

    But that was AMD-only, during one of their lowest levels of production in their history.

    I really think the two of them can meet demand in a few months.
     
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    modi123 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Of course it would be a clear acrylic case for your first build. ;)

    Typically you need the usual bits..
    -motherboard
    -cpu that can work on that motherboard
    - ram that work with that motherboard
    - a hard drive
    - video card
    - power supply that you sort of estimate would handle the videocard and some swag on that for cpu/motherbaord.
    - a fan or two that would fit your case's requirements
    - dvd/cd burner if you need one.
    - lights and what not if you want to show off more..

    Also a screwdriver helps.. sometime pliers.
     
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  8. MadOver

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    Something like this would be a good rig:

    PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jKxbYr
    Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jKxbYr/by_merchant/

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.88 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Kingston - HyperX Fury 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Red Devil Video Card ($259.00)
    Case: Corsair - SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.50 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.79 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $942.57
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-26 18:29 EDT-0400
     
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  9. BrovoTheta

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    Thank you for the info, but is there a reson why would you need 2 Storage?. Would it not be easier to get a 4TB or is the duo storage just to fit within the budget?
     
  10. BrovoTheta

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    Thank you for the info and yes ha ha ha I would like to see the insides of my first build lol
     
  11. E4g1e

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    There is no reason to buy a high-performance system build with only a single mechanically spinning hard drive and no SSD at all whatsoever because hard drives have extremely slow random performance compared to even the slowest SSD. With a 4TB hard drive as the OS/boot drive it may take several minutes just to even boot into Windows. By comparison, an SSD will take less than 30 seconds to boot into the Windows desktop.
     
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  13. ShaneMyerss

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    Thank you!
     
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    $850 is a normal budget for a gaming PC. if you can get most of the parts used but in good condition you will have a great built.
    I have written a complete guide for building a gaming PC under $1000.

    Casing Cooler Master HAF 912
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    Processor Intel Core i7-6700K Quad Core 4.00GHz
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    Cpu cooling fan Artic Freezer 13 – 200Watt
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    Graphics Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060
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    SanDisk SSD PLUS 240GB Solid State Drive
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    Motherboard MSI Pro Series Intel Z270
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    RAM Samsung 8GB PC4-17000 DDR4-2133MHz
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    Hard Drive Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB
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    Power Supply Cooler Master Elite V2

    These models were used by me. As you can see I used only 8GB of RAM because I can always increase it in the coming months. PSU is more than adequate and I can add another GPU on it and it will still work fine.
    Check out the complete guide for building a gaming PC here

    You don't have to buy the parts from this company. But these parts are more than enough to go with for the next three to four years while playing heavy duty games. Just keep on increasing RAM and you will need to change the GPU in two years because you can't go with 100FPS on 1060 for long.​
     
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  15. Archaea

    Archaea [H]ardForum Junkie

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    No way on that 1060 card at that $450 price. You could buy a 1080 at that price if you shop around!

    Swap out the 1tb platter drive for this 2TB SSHD Firecuda and it's a large upgrade too. (And cheaper!)

    https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16822178996
     
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  16. E4g1e

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    I agree that the GTX 1060 is currently way overpriced because of the cryptomining craze. However, the OP's usage pattern cannot take any advantage at all whatsoever of the SSHD that you suggested: The game loads may not fit into the tiny 8GB of flash memory, and thus the reads might be entirely off of the spinning hard drive every time.
     
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  17. Archaea

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    I disagree wholeheartedly. But even if speed improvements aren't readily visible (unlikely) then it's still at 2TB drive vs. the 1TB listed. Here is a current 2017 review on the tech as compared to a 2TB spinning platter drive.
    http://www.babeltechreviews.com/sshd-vs-hdd-2tb-seagate-firecuda-sshd-vs-2tb-toshiba-hdd/3/


    I'd definitely recommend picking up a small SSD for the OS hard-drive, and then use the 2TB SSHD for everything else. That's a great compromise of price/performance.
     
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