What cpu to get? 3600, 3800 or 3900.. cooling is not an issue..

have a budet of 1k $ for CPU, do you suggest going for ryzen or intel is a better choice in that case?
 
MMOLunatic said:
have a budet of 1k $ for CPU, do you suggest going for ryzen or intel is a better choice in that case?
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You are kidding, right? Buy two R9 3900x's and build two computers. :) A 3950X wourld be you best option for a single cpu, however, at that budget. Enjoy. :)
 
I know Inrecommended the 3600 non x and I still do. However, I personally think the absolute best zen 2 cpu in the stack is the 3700x. You get 8 cores and a shit ton of l3 cache in a 65 watt package that just runs games in the 1%'ile elite range. Its such a good cpu and price and spot in the lineup.
 
ManofGod said:
You are kidding, right? Buy two R9 3900x's and build two computers. :) A 3950X wourld be you best option for a single cpu, however, at that budget. Enjoy. :)
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Im sure he was saying 1k budget for computer. Many people use the term cpu loosely to describe the whole PC.

If he wants the best experience possible. I say get a b550 board in a week or two when they release. Get a 3600 non x and spend the remainder on 16gb 3600mhz ram and a gtx 2070 or even a rx5700xt. For 1k it will blow through games like a breeze .
 
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That's not bad at all. My 3700X hits 4.3 while gaming but that's the highest I've seen. So that's same gaming performance as mine but at $100-120 less. I think the 3600 is possibly the best cpu on the market dollar for dollar.
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It has a Corsair h100i Platinum water cooler in balance mode , but running on a ( $62 then ) mother board = B350M Gigabyte .. I also have a 3700x with the stock cooler on a x470 MSI board I play on but have yet to water cool it .. only video I have up on it with a flashed RX 5700

 
You look at reviews/benchmarks, you look at your budget, and you buy according to that. Even if you can afford a 3950X there is no point in buying it if all you do is play Minesweeper and use Microsoft Word. That is unless you want a big ol' epeen.

Honestly all the Zen 2 chips are pretty good value for the performance they give. In the OP you wanted to do 4k gaming, if that's your primary focus I'd just go with 3600 especially if you're planning on a big manual OC instead of using PBO. Use the saved money to buy a 3080 Ti or whatever and you've got a 4k gaming rig worth drooling over.

Check this video, at 1080p there is a some difference but at 4k it's almost the same. You'll also be running a higher frequency probably so you'll get even better performance.
 
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Pretty much everything is here now. Going to start on the build tomorrow.
 
ManofGod said:
What do you have now? If you do not have a 3000 series processor already, go ahead and upgrade, you will not regret it. I have a 3600 and 3700x, both were a significant upgrade over the already fast 1600 and 1700. (I have a 2600 as well and they are significantly faster than that, as well.)
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I have an Intel Core i5-6600k and I am thinking about making the switch to AMD. I am trying to decide if I want to wait for next gen or buy 3600/3700x now.
 
LaAaZ said:
I have an Intel Core i5-6600k and I am thinking about making the switch to AMD. I am trying to decide if I want to wait for next gen or buy 3600/3700x now.
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well the 3600 shouldnt drop to bad in value, compared to what happened to the 2700x.....no reason you cant just sell it after the new ones come out
 
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I have an Intel Core i5-6600k and I am thinking about making the switch to AMD. I am trying to decide if I want to wait for next gen or buy 3600/3700x now.
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Are you running anything other than gaming? No? 3600. If doing other production tasks, 3700X.
 
If cooling/noise were a concern and I wanted to be sensible about budget, I'd get the 3700x as its fine for gaming and great value.

If cooling/noise wasn't an issue and wanted something to last me the next 3 years I'd get the Ryzen 3900x. Even though the 3700x is more sensible... But you don't always have to be sensible when upgrading...

If I did a lot of CPU intensive work, without question, I'd grab the the Ryzen 3950x with its 16 cores, 32 threads... Over the next three years, it's great value for money and arguably better price/performance than the lesser CPU's. Would pay for itself in just a few months. However, if you're only doing gaming, it's a a waste of money. But if you have money to burn, this is a great CPU.
 
Might be a little bit but I’ll be able to do a pretty much apples to apples bench of a 3700x on water vs a 3900x on water. Building a 3900x on water with a 5700 xt on water for a friend of mine. Mine will be the same build but a 3700x. We have the same motherboard also.
 

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Are you running anything other than gaming? No? 3600. If doing other production tasks, 3700X.
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It is mostly gaming. I have an RTX 2070 I play Doom Eternal and Quake Champions. I can't decide if I want to upgrade the CPU or the monitor I don't think that I want to make the jump to 4k, but (2560 x 1440 at 165) would be nice. Trying to decide the best bang for the bucks upgrade.
 
Well, I have upgraded my 3rd and final computer to a 3700x. I went from a 1600 to 3600, 1700 to 3700x and 2600 to 3700x and they all were worth it. (I could afford it and sold all 3 of the old ones but, if I could not have afforded it, I would not have done it.) I have not seen an AMD upgrade this significant is quite a long time. I just wanted to share it in this thread to say AMD is awesome now compared to when the FX were out. :)
 
It’s all done. Thing is super snappy.
 

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nice looking rig im loving my [email protected] with memory overclocked to 3.6Ghz cant believe how much smoother games run on this 3900x vs my 6800k i had before it was a crappy clocking on barely did 4.2Ghz and needed quite a bit of vcore to do that.
 
Get either a 3700x or a 3800x (better lottery silicon) as those would be awesome! Also, get a larger case for better flow...looking kind of cramped in that pic of the current setup. (OP)
 
I had the video card vertical , the riser cable was bad and was causing it not to boot half the time. Took me a minute to figure that out. Looked good to.
 

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why do people keep recommending 6 core processors for gaming rigs?! You all do know the new consoles are both going to have 8 core / 16 thread Zen2 proc's in them right. So good luck with that 6 core once the newer games start to drop. But hey, if you build a new rig every year then do you. I try to build mine to last.
 
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why do people keep recommending 6 core processors for gaming rigs?! You all do know the new consoles are both going to have 8 core / 16 thread Zen2 proc's in them right. So good luck with that 6 core once the newer games start to drop. But hey, if you build a new rig every year then do you. I try to build mine to last.
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In before the bad comparison with the old console 8 core parts. :) 6 core 12 thread will be fine for a few years, especially since the porting of games is not always done very well.
 
ManofGod said:
In before the bad comparison with the old console 8 core parts. :) 6 core 12 thread will be fine for a few years, especially since the porting of games is not always done very well.
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oh yeah and if you guys saw the demos of the new consoles, I'd def want a board w/ pcie 4.0 because newer games will be taking advantage of top end performing nvme storage. So keep that in mind.
 
d3athf1sh said:
oh yeah and if you guys saw the demos of the new consoles, I'd def want a board w/ pcie 4.0 because newer games will be taking advantage of top end performing nvme storage. So keep that in mind.
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Maybe because it will not make a difference and they are more educated in it than you? Just a guess.
 
zer0xp said:
You're lucky. My 2 3600's are awful. The first one wouldn't boost over 4150mhz, the second does 4250.
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Maybe a better cooling solution would help and/or better air flow through your case ... ? If you can't keep the chip cool, it's not going to boost as high.
 
Makeroflostsouls said:
What is everyone ones thoughts on the ram speed? Thanks
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If you can run your RAM at 3800mhz w/ as tight of timings as possible and then run your IF at 1900 1:1 ratio .. that is going to give you optimal results .. generally you're not going to be stable with IF past ..or even at 1900 .. you want to get IF as fast as possible and then match your ram.

I have some cheaper HyperX Predators 2 x 16GB 3200mhz CAS16 stuff that I was able to get to run at 3800 CAS18 with IF @ 1:1 (1900mhz). It would be nice to get tighter timings ..but I'll take what I can get.

I run the 3700x on an ASRock Steel Legend and Noctua NH-D15 (dual fan)
 
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Finally got time to mess around with my 3700x. So far I'm at [email protected] all cores. Hitting 73c on prime95 and 64c on realbench. That's with the fan curve on and the fans not even kicking up. I'm pretty happy with that. My idle temps are lower now which is a plus. Going to mess with it a bit more and see if I can get 4.4ghz out of it and keep it under 1.300v
 
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