- Apr 21, 2018
Unless you get a backstock or old inventory somehow I think 99% likelyhood it is now the white label drives.Thanks for throwing this link up again! I wonder what sort of drives they'll have inside this time - WD Red, HGST, or white labels of each kind? I am curious if Amazon and other vendors will offer their own version of a deal like this....
- There is little doubt that the white label WD80EMAZ are the same as the red label WD80EFAX. Its identical down to the firmware used, its the same specs, FW revision, and 7 sec TLER. ~ There is evidence they may be rebranded HGST helium drives, which would be just as good if not better for reliability (and would explain the 3.3v power issue).Ahh I see well, thery're still nearly identical correct? Same amount of cache (256 mostly; I know some early china built ones had 128 or less, whereas thailand built had 256 if I recall) Do they still require the pin/connector mod for 3.3v power and if so, under what circumstances?
In any event still likely a very good deal for those building a new NAS or other storage array. I'm highly tempted to just go with these as I'm not sure I can justify the expense of WD Gold / HGST / Toshiba drives using Helium. By the way, if anyone has the HDDs shucked from these 8TB easystores for sale, personally used and/or refurb, feel free to PM me. I listed it in my FS/WTB thread but thought I'd post here as well.
I bought and shucked 1 drive when they first hit this price and got a WD red EFAX. Tempted to buy 3 more and a 4 bay synology and finally have a proper NAS solution but the 3.3v thing has me shy. Would the white labels be plug and play in a synology and with the WD red?
Thats the speculation but nothing confirmed.Wait a moment... so its possible some of these white labels are are HGST Ultrastar He 10s (265mb cache) or He 8s (128mb cache), modded down (via firmware? Hardware etc..?) to 5400rpm?
Only the details in the link and its all assumptions, also kek on my forum name.From the Reddit link Sparticus69 provided above,the datasheets for Ultrastar helium drives have a breakdown on how a model number is put together around which features etc... and though I'm sure it won't be that easy for a white label, perhaps there are some clues?
Some are shuckable some have the usb controller board soldered to the drive/in place of a sata connector.Considering the lineup of WD Externals, I didn't know Elements were "shuckable" and had the same sort of drive in them compared to the Easystores; I'm pretty sure MyBook models are not, but I hadn't heard much discussion of Elements being shucked for high quality internal drives the same way Easystores seem to have been.
It varies on manufactur so unless you test the port with a multimeter or use one of the actual drives not sure there is an easy way to tell.Regarding the 3.3v issues, when it comes to SATA backplanes and/or just plain connecting it to an ATX power supply via a SATA power connector, what is "modern" enough that it shouldn't be an issue without modding?
Also, according to Luke M they're no longer using helium for 8TB models? Any idea why this would be? I was under the impression that He drives had some benefits and was the primary reason that larger and more expensive drive types used it, as well as being an overall better process. Thus, I expected to see more drives using it as time went on and the process became cheaper etc.. instead of the opposite? Then again I've done researched deeply into the specific benefits of helium or its costs so I may be missing something. Is there a way to detect if the drive is a helium using mode? EFAX/EMAZ may not be enough by themselves but I wonder if there's some other model number somewhere? From the Reddit link Sparticus69 provided above,the datasheets for Ultrastar helium drives have a breakdown on how a model number is put together around which features etc... and though I'm sure it won't be that easy for a white label, perhaps there are some clues?/
Considering the lineup of WD Externals, I didn't know Elements were "shuckable" and had the same sort of drive in them compared to the Easystores; I'm pretty sure MyBook models are not, but I hadn't heard much discussion of Elements being shucked for high quality internal drives the same way Easystores seem to have been.
46! My local Best Buy had zero. A store farther away had 1 on the shelves.
sometimes you have to ask, i went to buy 2 more yesterday and low and behold there were none on the shelf, talked to a manager, he went to the back and pulled out all 10 that should of been on the shelf and put them back.. guess some employee(s) were trying to hide them. luckily the stores here still have WD red drives and not white labels.