Walmart Selling Lots of Counterfeit Products

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It's getting more and more difficult these days to buy a real product versus one that is counterfeit if you don't do your homework. The Counterfeit Report has found over 1,900 counterfeit products on the Walmart website and even though they submitted infringement complaints many of them stayed up for long periods of time or were just relisted. Also, this isn't just a Walmart problem because the GAO has found that almost 50% of items purchased during their investigation of the problem on Amazon, Walmart, eBay, Sears, and Newegg were counterfeit. Do your homework and don't reward the counterfeiters with your purchase. Just do the right thing and spend a little more to support the actual rights holder of the goods you buy.

Companies that enable and facilitate criminal activity and profit from dishonest sales which impact consumer safety, jobs and public trust create a public perception of deception and impunity. However, their reputation damage is only a small part of the problem: the value of counterfeit and pirated goods is forecast to grow to $2.8 trillion and cost 5.4 million net job losses2 by 2022, while manufacturer's brand integrity is tarnished or destroyed. Counterfeiting is now the world's largest criminal enterprise.
 

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Replicas?
Genuine imitation Rolex.
This is what happens when all these places open up their marketplaces to other sellers. First thing I do when shopping online at newegg, walmart, etc is to check off the seller as ONLY that website.
But then you miss out on those crunk deals. And you miss out on the ability to buy things priced too good to be true. And you miss out on the opportunity to complain about how you were ripped off.

Caveat Emptor baby.
 

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This is what happens when all these places open up their marketplaces to other sellers. First thing I do when shopping online at newegg, walmart, etc is to check off the seller as ONLY that website.

That can be a problem too, if and when a vendor mingles inventory together. Amazon shipped me a counterfeit item once. Shipped and sold by them. To be fair they made it right very quickly.
 

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Try to find an actual new OEM battery for a Samsung Note 4 on Amazon.

Almost every listing is for a fake/copy battery or you end up getting shipped a worthless used one they resealed in a Samsung box.

I ended up buying a good quality 3rd party battery, since they usually don't make cheap copies of them.
 
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No way I'm clicking on that link.
 

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Amazon business model:
Pay low wages
Get discounts from local governments
Get discounts from US government
Supply chain of fake knockoffs from Asian countries
Profit.........................
What happens next? These other companies start opening up themselves to the "Market Place" which is code for Asian fake products. Very disappointed in New Egg. I very carefully have to select each item to purchase to make sure it is coming from US dealer or New Egg themselves. One time I wasn't paying attention because I switched products and had to wait 2.5 weeks for item to arrive from guess where, China. A lot of good this does me when the parts I purchase are for ongoing customer repairs and upgrades and I have to contact the customer and schedule work to be done way in the future.
 

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Amazon business model:
Pay low wages
Get discounts from local governments
Get discounts from US government
Supply chain of fake knockoffs from Asian countries
Profit.........................
What happens next? These other companies start opening up themselves to the "Market Place" which is code for Asian fake products. Very disappointed in New Egg. I very carefully have to select each item to purchase to make sure it is coming from US dealer or New Egg themselves. One time I wasn't paying attention because I switched products and had to wait 2.5 weeks for item to arrive from guess where, China. A lot of good this does me when the parts I purchase are for ongoing customer repairs and upgrades and I have to contact the customer and schedule work to be done way in the future.

Wrong, they don't actually make money.
 

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The best part about buying a counterfeit item is that most of the time you can get a full refund and can end up keeping the counterfeit item. So really the seller loses, the vendor loses, and you win. Still not worth the waste of time usually but could be worse.
 

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They've been running black for a while...
No they just break even every year or they loose a few hundred thousand, if they are posting in the black their accountants aren't doing their jobs correctly.
 

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This is what happens when all these places open up their marketplaces to other sellers. First thing I do when shopping online at newegg, walmart, etc is to check off the seller as ONLY that website.
Seriously everyone trying to be Amazon. Totally ruined Newegg for me I hardly use it anymore.
 

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I live in Alaska. It ain't easy getting things in store. So, I order a lot online using Amazon. If I want official, official stuff...it gets tricky.
 

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Try to find an actual new OEM battery for a Samsung Note 4 on Amazon.

Almost every listing is for a fake/copy battery or you end up getting shipped a worthless used one they resealed in a Samsung box.

I ended up buying a good quality 3rd party battery, since they usually don't make cheap copies of them.

I had the same problem with my Note 4. After getting a dud, I just bought a Zero Lemon 10,000mAhr. It was a brick, but good grief at the amount of screen on time.
 

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TFA says there are no real 64G uSDXC cards. A quick Google search for just such a product gets results from many of the major vendors you would expect to carry such a product, if it really existed. The low sponsored listing is $13.50 from Goggle Express, the high is $89.99 from Best Buy. I tossed a $0.99 ebay listing as an obvious fake.

So is there an authentic product or are all of these vendors selling counterfeits?
 

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Seriously everyone trying to be Amazon. Totally ruined Newegg for me I hardly use it anymore.

I quit using Newegg (which I used for many, many years) when they got bought by a Chinese company. Hated to see that happen.
 

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China runs their factories non-stop. They aren't going to stop the lines when a customer's order is filled. The order gets filled and the rest go on the grey/black market and often aren't tested for quality.
 

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The CREE thing is kind of bullshit. CREE makes the bulb inside the flashlight which is pretty much the only thing that matters in a flashlight. This is like having a car on the dealership lot that says "Cummins" on the side and saying "counterfeit, Cummins doesn't make cars". Ya they don't but if it has Cummins engine inside...
 

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Do your homework and don't reward the counterfeiters with your purchase. Just do the right thing and spend a little more to support the actual rights holder of the goods you buy.
And how pray tell do we do this? Something in an iPhone box, sold as an iPhone, we are supposed to know to isnt an iPhone?
 

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I'm sure there is a lot of junk that gets caught up in this but I've found several products that are identical. I purchased a popup tent on Amazon for 130, only to find the Chinese manufacturer selling the exact same product for 80. I'm not too bummed because shipping for the tent on Ali was 35 dollars whereas Amazon was free. So I would have saved 15 dollars but no had the convenience of free shipping and the fact that it only took a week to get here. I've purchased tons of paracord from Ali for almost 1/10th of the price as any US chord, but some of it was 5 strand inner but some were 9 strand. You just have to read reviews and not try to cheat the system. Of course that 1tb microSD card isn't going to work for 2 dollars.
 

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It's getting more and more difficult these days to buy a real product versus one that is counterfeit if you don't do your homework. The Counterfeit Report has found over 1,900 counterfeit products on the Walmart website and even though they submitted infringement complaints many of them stayed up for long periods of time or were just relisted. Also, this isn't just a Walmart problem because the GAO has found that almost 50% of items purchased during their investigation of the problem on Amazon, Walmart, eBay, Sears, and Newegg were counterfeit. Do your homework and don't reward the counterfeiters with your purchase. Just do the right thing and spend a little more to support the actual rights holder of the goods you buy.

Companies that enable and facilitate criminal activity and profit from dishonest sales which impact consumer safety, jobs and public trust create a public perception of deception and impunity. However, their reputation damage is only a small part of the problem: the value of counterfeit and pirated goods is forecast to grow to $2.8 trillion and cost 5.4 million net job losses2 by 2022, while manufacturer's brand integrity is tarnished or destroyed. Counterfeiting is now the world's largest criminal enterprise.

Thats not walmart selling them thats third parties using their website. Little misleading on the title...
 

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ebay, amazon, walmart, fakes are everywhere, some things i dont care if its a cheap knock off, but other things, i was a quality authentic product
 

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"It's getting more and more difficult these days to buy a real product versus one that is counterfeit"

seems to apply to people as well these days ...

those companies have customers who use the same business practices those companies use (deceit), like selling worn out mining GPU cards on eBay without telling anyone it was used for mining, posting used GPU's as "lightly used" when they've been water blocked in SLI config, etc. And how about when they shop at a food store, drop a jar in the isle then walk away saying they did't pay for it so it's not their problem?

The problem is not just the companies, it's man's corrupt nature and it's going to get much, much worse in a few years ("As it was in the days of Noah so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man." - Christ). Do some research and find out what it was like in Noah's day ...
 
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Ironic considering the cries and litigation of ip infringement from Amazon on their self produced series for prime video.

Then considering the products they sell that do the same thing or apps on their walled garden. It's only ok if they are the ones benefitting
 

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Assholes caused me to have to reissue certs all damn week. I knew it was coming I just hate going through the reissue process.

Yep, and they warned everyone like a year ago. But many didn't pay attention. We just got doing a bunch of ours. Most still coming up that need to be replaced by June I believe.
 

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As my name still implies I'm still lost in 3d and thanks to the U.S. all but abandoning it I've had to resort to ordering overseas for a lot of things now. Well, no real problems with amazon but I did order a Thor Ragnarok 4k/3d from an Ebay seller(who refunded when push came to shove) and it wasn't hard to tell their 'combo' pack was counterfeit. I admit, it's Ebay, and my less than confident feelings towards them haven't improved. Didn't know for sure but as someone who shops a lot on amazon I started noticing more than a few questionable things in the last 5-6 years. Hardcore Zep fan here and I know how to spot a bootleg after 30+ years collecting. I've seen 'em on Amazon(but I download on Dime). The only thing surprising me with this is Walmart, sweatshops, low wages are signs for sure but for me this a little of a surprise. Oh well. Guess it's back to the flea markets for those interesting folks ;)
 

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I just recieved an airsoft replica Trijicon MRO sold by amazon... as a legit... Found out it was a repackaged return and the previous buyer had scammed Amazon for tens of thousands on optics and accessories because of course the returns people see a scope in the packaging and clear it as returned.
 

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If you are going to allow marketplace sellers, then you deserve ALL the liability, lawsuits, and/or fines that will inevitably come with any lack of oversight. I don't care who the vender is (Amazon, Walmart, Sears, etc...), the responsibility lies squarely with them. Failure to police it adequately should elicit LARGE fines per violation IMO. They then would would clean it up real quick if so.
 

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The CREE thing is kind of bullshit. CREE makes the bulb inside the flashlight which is pretty much the only thing that matters in a flashlight. This is like having a car on the dealership lot that says "Cummins" on the side and saying "counterfeit, Cummins doesn't make cars". Ya they don't but if it has Cummins engine inside...
You should try one of those newfangled flashlights with current regulation, multiple modes, etc. They're sweet.
 

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You should try one of those newfangled flashlights with current regulation, multiple modes, etc. They're sweet.

Not only have i tried it, I build my own.

This guy has a pretty sweet website where you can buy the Cree emitter you want, pair it with whatever circuit board/driver you want, and then you just put it in a generic P60 host:

https://intl-outdoor.com/

The one nice thing about buying the parts yourself is you know you're getting a genuine cree emitter whereas some of the crap on ebay says "CREE XHP50" but you are really getting an XMLT6.
 
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