They said the 240gb Vertex 3 would be about $500. The C400 can be had now for $459. Plus if you go back and look at failure rates between Intel, Crucial, and OCZ this may change your mind also.
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Wait for Crucial C400 or buy a C300?
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They said the 240gb Vertex 3 would be about $500. The C400 can be had now for $459. Plus if you go back and look at failure rates between Intel, Crucial, and OCZ this may change your mind also.
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I just don't know what to think.
Tweaktown's c400 does 450MB/s sustained read and Tom's gets 391MB/s.
I'm officially totally confused about the Crucial drives.
I just don't know what to think.
Tweaktown's c400 does 450MB/s sustained read and Tom's gets 391MB/s.
I'm officially totally confused about the Crucial drives.
That makes two of us. I dont know what to buy. Not a big deal since I went sandy im broke anyways lol.
The performance of the C400 when full isn't promising...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-ssd-320-crucial-m4-realssd-c400,2908-4.html
I think I'd prefer to give up the 3.4% of space for Over-Provisioning like the Intel 510.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-ssd-320-crucial-m4-realssd-c400,2908-4.html
I think I'd prefer to give up the 3.4% of space for Over-Provisioning like the Intel 510.
Tom's hardware reviewers are sometimes quite clueless. From the review linked above:
That reviewer does not know what he is talking about. The 256GB Crucial drives have 256GiB of flash memory, but only 256GB of available capacity. That comes to (1024)^3 / 1000^3 = 1.0737 or 7.37% overprovisioning.
As for the read speed decrease on the m4 when full, that does look worrisome, but this review does a poor job of studying it. HD Tach is one of the worst benchmarks to use on SSDs. It would have been better if they included some other benchmarks comparing full and empty performance. Also, it would be good to know if it is, say 90% full, how much of a drop off there is.
If that read speed when full drop-off occurs in normal usage (i.e., outside of HD Tach), then it is clearly a bug -- there is no way that is intended/design performance. It will be interesting to see if Micron has anything to say about it and/or fixes it with a firmware update.
I see that tweaktown is also finding a performance drop-off when the m4 is 25%, 50%, or 75% full:
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/3...iew_and_next_gen_2x0_gb_shootout/index10.html
This looks to me like a bug in the m4 firmware in these pre-release m4s. I would certainly hold off on buying an m4 until the reviews of the retail m4s come out, to see if Micron has fixed the firmware.
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Couldn't you do this manually by partitioning 3.4% smaller? If that works then technically micron is letting you choose your amount of partitioning? (I assume the controller can still map to unpartitioned space - after all the latter should be a higher level construct than the controller is working at?)
I'm doubtful the controller is that smart.
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If it's true that manually leaving a partition unformatted adds to overprovisioning it is.
And from what I've read it's true.
I partitoned 20% on my Intels in RAID0 and it seemed to work just fine.
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Yes the Vertex3 does a little better but the Crucial recovers quicker.....a little ying, a little yang.
I've never used an SSD over 25% full and that chart sucks.
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I pull a 688 on my c300 with a full install on it.... runs great.
Yeah, I got it from SuperBiiz.
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When did you order it?
I ordered the 256GB version on the 25th and got told it was out of stock on the 28th.
Now I'm on hold.
I ordered on the 24th after theKernel had received his. It shipped out the 25th and I received it on the 29th.
At $454.99/256GB or $1.78/GB it was too good to pass up.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037019464&postcount=140
At $454.99/256GB or $1.78/GB it was too good to pass up.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037019464&postcount=140
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That's pretty bad luck on my end.
damn dude, that one disk is that much faster than twin intels in raid? sweet. why wont microcenter get all the Gen 3 in stock!!
Anand's review of the C400 is up: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4253/the-crucial-m4-micron-c400-ssd-review
As expected, writes are up, reads are down. Interesting point that the collector is slow. Too bad he didn't delve more into it. As in how much writing to trigger the slowness and how long the slowness lasts for?
As expected, writes are up, reads are down. Interesting point that the collector is slow. Too bad he didn't delve more into it. As in how much writing to trigger the slowness and how long the slowness lasts for?
It's fairly well known that SSD's decrease in performance the less room they have to work with GC and TRIM.
True but then you should have said something to the effect that it's interesting that this one seems to slow down more than others when it gets full
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I should have done a lot of things in life...
Regrets, I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention
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I'm not cause I'm not buying one.
However, anyone considering these newer drives should ask themselves...
"Does this decrease and corresponding increase in some of the drives' stats create a better desktop performance for me".
The decrease in some performance aspects may make little difference in the actual desktop experience.
+9.. i dont give a crap about the OCZ bad reviews and haters.. speed is speed. not like i keep a drive more than a couple years anyway.. the Vertex 3 is about top of the pack for me right now..
ya, i considered it... but i want something current.
After a couple bad experiences I can't help but be a hater. It's easy say you don't care when you haven't had a bad experience with them. Looking at the failure rates for all the brands OCZ doesn't look as dependable. Not saying I wont pick one up if it ends up being the best out there in terms of performance. I will just hate my self
Damn.. that was a good deal.. I would have jumped on that one.
After a couple bad experiences I can't help but be a hater. It's easy say you don't care when you haven't had a bad experience with them. Looking at the failure rates for all the brands OCZ doesn't look as dependable. Not saying I wont pick one up if it ends up being the best out there in terms of performance. I will just hate my self
hey i got one of the OCZ 120GB disks with less space than it should have had. didnt bother me.. in fact, its in my machine right now.
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I'm sure OCZ would give it's left nut to have all it's customers mimic your attitude.
Ya for sure. From as much bad as I've heard about them I'll stick with a brand name I can trust.
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Are there any websites other than SuperBiiz that has the C400s listed?
It's been over a week and they are still out of stock.
It's been over a week and they are still out of stock.