Vizio 43" 4k M43-C1

As far as I can tell, Samsung pretty much has the 4:4:4 issue resolved with it's 2015 models so there's a good chance Vizio has done the same. If I remember correctly input lag on the 2014 P series was very good for a 4k tv so this set may also have low input lag. For $599 I think I might willing to be the test subject for this guy. Was the 2014 M series PWM free by any chance?
 
Bummer. Guess the Samsungs are still the number 1 contender for me atm. And to answer Sioux's question, pretty much all of Samsung's 2015 UHD lineup is 4:4:4 capable in PC mode. Not ALL models have been confirmed but so far...there hasn't been a 2015 model that has been confirmed to NOT support 4:4:4.
 
I plan on picking one up from Best Buy when they come in stock.

I currently have a Samsung UN48JU6500, but I'd like to try one of these out for the price.
 
munkle said:
I didn't see a thread on this tv ( vizio 4k 43" M43-C1), it's listed as coming soon at best buy for $600.

Unknown if it supports 60hz 4:4:4, but if it does seems like it's going to be a pretty good deal.


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m...lack/3733004.p?id=1219597974182&skuId=3733004
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Code: 
Monitor
  Model name............... M43-C1
  Manufacturer............. Vizio
  Plug and Play ID......... VIZ1011
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2014, ISO week 0
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 940 x 530 mm (42.5 in)
  Power management......... Active off/sleep
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.639 - Ry 0.333
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.324 - Gy 0.611
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.145 - By 0.045
  White point (default).... Wx 0.280 - Wy 0.290
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 15-80kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 25-76Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 300MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 3840x2160p at 30Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "3840x2160" 297.000 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  72Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Not supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
[B]  [U]YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported[/U][/B]
[B]  [U]YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported[/U][/B]
  Native formats........... 1
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
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    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
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    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
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  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz

CE audio data (formats supported)

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 2.0
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ No
  Front center............. No
  Rear left/right.......... No
  Rear center.............. No
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... No
  Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 4.0.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. No
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... Yes
  Supports 30bpp........... Yes
[B]  [U]Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes[/U][/B]
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 300MHz
  Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
  Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
  HDMI video capabilities.. Yes
  EDID screen size......... No additional info
  3D formats supported..... Not supported
  Data payload............. 030C004000383C200060010304

Report information
  Date generated........... 5/4/2015
  Software revision........ 2.90.0.1000
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0021
  Operating system......... 5.2.3790.2.Service Pack 2

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It would appear as if it does.
 
knowom said:
Code: 
Monitor
  Model name............... M43-C1
  Manufacturer............. Vizio
  Plug and Play ID......... VIZ1011
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2014, ISO week 0
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 940 x 530 mm (42.5 in)
  Power management......... Active off/sleep
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.639 - Ry 0.333
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.324 - Gy 0.611
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.145 - By 0.045
  White point (default).... Wx 0.280 - Wy 0.290
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 15-80kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 25-76Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 300MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 3840x2160p at 30Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "3840x2160" 297.000 3840 4016 4104 4400 2160 2168 2178 2250 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  72Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Not supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
[B]  [U]YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported[/U][/B]
[B]  [U]YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported[/U][/B]
  Native formats........... 1
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
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  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
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    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
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    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
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CE audio data (formats supported)

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 2.0
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ No
  Front center............. No
  Rear left/right.......... No
  Rear center.............. No
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... No
  Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 4.0.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. No
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... Yes
  Supports 30bpp........... Yes
[B]  [U]Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes[/U][/B]
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 300MHz
  Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
  Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
  HDMI video capabilities.. Yes
  EDID screen size......... No additional info
  3D formats supported..... Not supported
  Data payload............. 030C004000383C200060010304

Report information
  Date generated........... 5/4/2015
  Software revision........ 2.90.0.1000
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0021
  Operating system......... 5.2.3790.2.Service Pack 2

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It would appear as if it does.
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Native/preferred timing.. 3840x2160p at 30Hz (16:9)

Shudder...
 
local walmart has these in stock. might just pick one up and see. a review on amazon says this does 1080p at 120hz native and input lag is supposed to be under 20ms. would be a big upgrade if it does 4/4/4. currently using an lg 32ln5300.
 
Would be a real bargain if this did 4:4:4, hopefully the linked reviewer just didn't use the correct input or settings. 120hz at 1080p is a nice bonus, even if the screen is a bit large for that res.
 
qkslvr221 said:
Would be a real bargain if this did 4:4:4, hopefully the linked reviewer just didn't use the correct input or settings. 120hz at 1080p is a nice bonus, even if the screen is a bit large for that res.
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http://www.rtings.com/reviews/tv/lcd-led/vizio/m-series-2015
Code: 
 24p: Yes
24p via 60p: Yes
24p via 60i: Yes
[B]Chroma 4:4:4: No[/B]
Boot Time: 22.57 s
Power Consumption: 113 W
Power Consumption (Max): 250 W
120fps (1080p): Yes
Firmware: 1.0.6
 
qkslvr221 said:
Yes, that is the reviewer I was referring to. :confused:
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Those guys are pretty professional. 4:4:4 is usually called with a special marketing term like UHD Color or Deep Color. Does the Vizio advertise something like that? Marketers usually won't leave anything like that out on the box.
 
Just got this one from Sams club a week ago. So far, Happy with it, no dead pixels. 3840 x 2160 on GTX 760
 
ok, had this up and running for an hour or so. 1st impressions: lot of drawbacks. did a quick calibration and black crush is pretty strong. it doesnt support full hdmi range. 1080p works at 120hz verified by blur busters but so far that is the only positive besides the contrast and input lag. at full 3840x1920 59.9hz in games 1/2 the screen is covered in tiling artifacts. some of these problems could be due to hdmi cables but i doubt it. ive got a few more things to try, but so far its going back.
 
well i've tried 5 diff hdmi cables and cant get 4k at 60hz, 1080p at 120hz lose sync constantly as well. think i will cut my losses and take it back. there is a certain degree of blurriness/fuzziness even at 4k with all sharpness and picture enhancers off so even without the refresh issues it probably wouldn't have worked. i suppose it could be my gtx 970 is crappy and doesn't actually support hdmi 2.0. hopefully i can get the samsung 40ju6500 tomorrow and try that out.
 
Picked up one of these and I really do enjoy watching my Roku 3 on it with the upscaling. I also use it as a computer monitor and so far it games really well(not quite as good as my 144hz did but picture is better). That said 1080p/120hz input seems to be having trouble with my R9 290. The screen goes black randomly for brief periods but all was OK when I used a 7870 Myst with Tahiti LE chip.

I have noticed that the built in Netflix, Amazon, Hulu and Plex Smart TV apps don't seem to upscale like they do when using my Roku 3 on the Hdmi 2.0 port. Is this simply due to the lack of CPU/GPU cycles available when the Smart TV apps are in use?

I wanna try 4K gaming for non first person shooters so I went ahead and sold both the R9 290 and 7870 in favor of two GTX 970's. If I end up liking the 4k setup(I know color is limited so I'm not sure about long term) I may be on the hunt for a larger 50-55" version and take this one back as Walmart allows 90 days for TV's. I'm just not sure which TV's are capable of 120hz gaming at 1080p. I'd really love to pick up a Samsung(preferred) or LG capable of 4:4:4 but I wanna stay under $1K.
 
I'm looking to upgrade to a 4K UHD HDMI monitor and in terms of screen real estate vs. cost a 2160p tv seems to be a clear winner. I've waded through the all of the tradeoffs but have come to one annoying nit which looks to be somewhat of a headache to address.

I need the TV to turn its backlight off when the PC's screen saver kicks in and reenable it when the screensaver snaps back. This normally happens with a conventional monitor via the video drive being disabled/reenabled. Unfortunately this Vizio and the Sharp 43ub30u preceding it don't function as such and complain of "No Signal" when the screensaver kicks in. And the best either can do as an option is to permanently turn off the power after 10-15m of signal loss. Unfortunately that makes reenable of the tv a manual and slow operation.

Sharp and Vizio "technical support" are unfortunately useless here so I'm wondering whether someone knows of a way an m43-c1 can be coaxed into entering a backlight disabled state when the video drive is disabled and exiting when the drive is restored.

Other more involved solutions are either sending CEC commands (or IR remote codes) by a hook in the screensaver. But this would involve creating a USB widget to act as the interface. I'd consider doing so but not until I'm certain there is no means to force the tv to natively behave as I'm after.

I'm not even sure there is another 4K UHD choice other than the Vizio given it has the lowest latency of any competitive current production unit. And though given my otherwise zero experience with Vizio products I'd rather go with a more mainstream manufacturer, I don't believe another reasonable option exists.
 
hax0red said:
Picked up one of these and I really do enjoy watching my Roku 3 on it with the upscaling. I also use it as a computer monitor and so far it games really well(not quite as good as my 144hz did but picture is better). That said 1080p/120hz input seems to be having trouble with my R9 290. The screen goes black randomly for brief periods but all was OK when I used a 7870 Myst with Tahiti LE chip.

I have noticed that the built in Netflix, Amazon, Hulu and Plex Smart TV apps don't seem to upscale like they do when using my Roku 3 on the Hdmi 2.0 port. Is this simply due to the lack of CPU/GPU cycles available when the Smart TV apps are in use?

I wanna try 4K gaming for non first person shooters so I went ahead and sold both the R9 290 and 7870 in favor of two GTX 970's. If I end up liking the 4k setup(I know color is limited so I'm not sure about long term) I may be on the hunt for a larger 50-55" version and take this one back as Walmart allows 90 days for TV's. I'm just not sure which TV's are capable of 120hz gaming at 1080p. I'd really love to pick up a Samsung(preferred) or LG capable of 4:4:4 but I wanna stay under $1K.
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I know this is an old post, but I was under the impression that the 43" model did NOT support 1080p@120hz, if it does, then this just became a great option for my main monitor.

I know it only does 4:2:2, but there aren't any other options at this price, and the Sony 43" doesn't do 1080p@120hz, and it's 600$ more (700$ vs 1300$).

Would love to hear from someone that got the Vizio to work @ 1080p@120hz.
 
master0068 said:
I know this is an old post, but I was under the impression that the 43" model did NOT support 1080p@120hz, if it does, then this just became a great option for my main monitor.

I know it only does 4:2:2, but there aren't any other options at this price, and the Sony 43" doesn't do 1080p@120hz, and it's 600$ more (700$ vs 1300$).

Would love to hear from someone that got the Vizio to work @ 1080p@120hz.
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From reading some posts on this site (the sony tv thread), I'm pretty sure the 43" Sony does do 1080p@120hz. Also, if you're in the US the price for the Sony 43" should be around $800, not $1300.

I could of course be wrong about the Sony and 1080P@120, but it certainly sounds as though it can do it.
 
Sorvats said:
From reading some posts on this site (the sony tv thread), I'm pretty sure the 43" Sony does do 1080p@120hz. Also, if you're in the US the price for the Sony 43" should be around $800, not $1300.

I could of course be wrong about the Sony and 1080P@120, but it certainly sounds as though it can do it.
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Let me clarify this issue for you. With respect the M series, anything below 60' uses a native 60Hz panel. You may be confused cause Vizio lists there M series below 60' as having an effective refresh rate @120Hz. What that means is in one of it's motion settings it will pulsate the back light in an attempt to give you the smoothness of of a 120Hz display. In reality it looks less then stellar when trying to do so.

60' and above they list the display as 240Hz, Which is really a Native 120Hz panel. Motion is much better on the 60 inch and above displays.
 
master0068 said:
I know this is an old post, but I was under the impression that the 43" model did NOT support 1080p@120hz, if it does, then this just became a great option for my main monitor.

I know it only does 4:2:2, but there aren't any other options at this price, and the Sony 43" doesn't do 1080p@120hz, and it's 600$ more (700$ vs 1300$).

Would love to hear from someone that got the Vizio to work @ 1080p@120hz.
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I had the 43" for a day and it did 1080p120 with some sync issues(random black screen for a second). This is definitely not a suitable display for a main monitor, 4:2:2 on the vizio looks pretty bad compared to 4:2:2 on the samsung. The only good things for this display are the input lag and contrast, i couldn't get a sharp picture no matter what settings I tried. I'm also using the same hdmi cable that gave me issues with the vizio on the samsung with no probs at 4k60hz and 4:4:4. If you decide to get the vizio, grab it locally with a no hassle return policy.
 
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