Vista + Wireless + 60 sec lag spikes = SOLVED

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  1. officermartinez

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    Like many of you out there, I have a pretty high end gaming computer by todays standards (Q6600 @ 3.6ghz, GTX260, 4gb's of 1066mhz ram, 1K power supply, Asus mobo, etc).. It allows me to game at very acceptable frame rates. However, those of you who have Vista (32 bit or 64 bit) and use the wireless option for gaming, know that during game play, you will encounter something known as a lag spike. It happens in Vista and has to do with the way Vista searches for new / better wireless signals, every 60 seconds.

    Many places on the web (and related forums) try to address it with counter-measures such as Vista Anti-Lag, Wizmo, WLAN Optimizer, etc.. Some Vista users have even reported limited success with these counter-measures. For me, I tried them all. It's a known bug with Vista that the lag is present yet microsoft has done nothing to help "fix" this issue. So, I will offer a "work around" that worked for me.. Many people have tried the NETSH script method but upon rebooting, they find that their wireless no longer works. Here is a simple way to "toggle" the wireless function within Vista.

    First things first. Let's uncheck a little box. Go to your Network and Sharing center by RIGHT CLICKING your icon:

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    That will bring up this screen:

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    After you click on Manage Wireless Networks, it will bring this window up:

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    After you have right clicked on the ICON and you have gone to PROPERTIES, it will bring up this window:

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    Be sure that little box is unchecked. Once unchecked, click OK and close it out.

    Let's start with a simple press of the Windows Vista Start Button in the lower left hand of the screen (unless you've customized your Start Button elsewhere).

    1. Click it.
    2. Where it says: START SEARCH, type these three little letters: CMD
    3. Right Click CMD. Then click RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR
    4. This is what pops up:

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    5. So to turn my Wireless function in Vista (WLAN) OFF, I typed this: C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="Wireless Network Connection 5"

    -If you read that command string, look where it says: cmd.exe /k ...The forward slash k allows the CMD window to remain open. If you don't want your DOS window to remain open, simply bypass that portion of the command. It will look like this:

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="Wireless Network Connection 5"

    6. To turn it back on, I typed this: C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=yes interface="Wireless Network Connection 5"

    *** In the portion that says Wireless Network Connection 5, that is the name of MY SPECIFIC wireless connection. The name of your connection may differ. You will need to type in YOUR WIRELESS CONNECTION NAME. If you don't know it, one way to find out is to go to your little wireless icon in the bottom left hand corner and click on it. Bring up your NETWORK SHARING CENTER. It will list the name of your wireless connection:

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    7. If you're like me, that is a lot of trouble to go through, each and every single time you want to disable the WLAN in Vista, just so you can game without LAG SPIKES. Ughhh! Here is pretty simple way to set up some ICONS on your desktop, to toggle back and forth:

    You will need to create two seperate icons on your desktop. One icon will "enable your WLAN" and the other will "disable your WLAN". It's basically the same method for both:

    Right click on any open space on your desktop. Go to "NEW" and then "SHORTCUT" :

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    This is what pops up:

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    To "ENABLE" your WLAN, copy and paste that long command: C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=yes interface="Wireless Network Connection 5"

    When you begin setting up your "DISABLE" icon, you will copy and paste the same command except it will not say AUTOCONFIG ENABLED=YES INTERFACE. It should say AUTOCONFIG ENABLED=NO INTERFACE.

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    Finally, I named my icon as this:

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    I even went a step further because I did not like the default icon(s):

    Right Click your icon and go to properties.

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    Click change icon:

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    Scroll through the icons and find the ones that you like:

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    OK. That's pretty much it. I tried to provide some screen shots to help you out. When you disable your WLAN Autoconfig, you can continue to surf or game online. However, if you leave it disabled, when you reboot, your wireless will NOT work. Simply click on your new ENABLE icon and it should work perfectly fine. Remember, once you enable your wireless WLAN Autoconfig, you will be able to surf normally but if you want to game online, be sure to click on the DISABLE icon to prevent the lag spikes during game play on your wireless connection. Here are the icons that I used:

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    ***A HELPFUL TIP***

    1. When you shut your computer down, make sure the WLAN Autoconfig is ENABLED. Upon reboot, you should be connected to the internet, like normal.

    2. I have found that my BEST results with WLAN Optimizer is when it is NOT set to start with Windows. Upon reboot, after you disable your WLAN Autoconfig, that's when I manually start WLAN Optimizer.

    ***UPDATED A LITTLE INFORMATION***

    Just a very small update.. For grins, I decided to add the little WLAN Optimizer program in addition to my update above and it seems to add a little bit more "effectiveness" on my heavy wireless gaming usage. Another small program called Ping Tester, really helps me see the "smaller spikes". It can be ran on a continual loop and comes in very handy when checking your response times (in milliseconds). If you google WLAN Optimizer and Ping Tester, you should easily be able to find those little programs.. I've included a few screen shots below:


    Ping Tester:

    Just because you don't "notice" the lag does not mean you are not encountering it. This program is a very simple way to test for it. A VERY HIGH ping such as the ones below as well as "REQUEST TIMED OUT" is what you want to look for. Take a screen shot, write it down or if you can remember your time stamp, pay attention to the time intervals. When you begin to see a pattern, your lag will be in exactly 60 second intervals. Thank you Microsoft Vista (ughhh)!


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    WLAN Optimizer:

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    Here's a handy little Vista Sidebar Gadget that shows local wireless networks (like a radar screen). It's called Xirrus Wi-Fi Monitor. If your computer is searching for wireless networks (and there are some within range), little dots will show up on the radar. If Vista is NOT searching for wireless networks, the radar screen will be BLANK. Blank is what you want. As you can see, it also displays your wireless connection strength and IP address:


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    I hope this tutorial has been helpful. Stay connected and happy gaming!
     
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    Thanks. I got tired of getting killed during COD4 because like clock work, I would FREEZE in the middle of my game play, every 60 seconds.. LOL.
     
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    i havent noticed this, and i have vista, might have to start looking for it now. but very nice guide, thanks
     
  5. Tzzird

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    Wow... nice write up! This looks like something that should be stickied. When I built this computer almost two years ago, I quickly went from a wireless connection to a hardline connection for vista 32bit because I was getting these lag spikes you speak of. I guess it all makes sense now. I'll have to try this some time.
     
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    I've used both wireless and wired and the same vista I'm on now install and have never had any of these issues.
     
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    Using wireless and Vista 64 and I don't get spikes either.
     
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  9. Don Rico

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    Great post. I have been looking for a resolution to this issue for a long, long time. Up to this point I've had to deal with that annoying lag spike. This method seems to work well. Though I seem to get those "smaller spikes" that you're referring to. I'll give WLAN Optimizer another go. It didn't work for me before, but may now.
     
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    Ya, lag spikes here too.... in any MMO I play. Gods bless you with unlimited bottles of cold beer and cancer-free cigarettes for that guide :)
     
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    affects some and not others... I'm in the never notcied this issue boat in 2 + years and have similar specs...
     
  12. officermartinez

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    Exactly the same thing here.. WLAN Optimizer did NOT work by itself when I used it the first time around. It seems to respond very well after the ENABLE / DISABLE WLAN Autoconfig on Windows Vista.

    (Sounding like Homer Simpson) ....Mmmmmmmmmm, beer, cigs (and doughnuts).. LOL

    This is true. I routinely build computers on the side and some of my clients want wireless. When I explain the wireless issues pertaining to Vista and gaming, I do my best to explain a potential issue on this subject. About 1/4 of my clients say that it games perfectly fine on their wireless connection.
     
  13. Don Rico

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    After doing some testing for the last couple of days, I still seem to be getting the lag spikes, but not as bad. Even when running WLAN Optimizer, I still get those smaller, shorter lag spikes. Any thoughts?

    I have a Linksys WRT54G v.1 firmware v. 4.2 router with a Linksys WMP54G wireless desktop card.
     
  14. officermartinez

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    Here is what works for me:

    1. When you shut your computer down, make sure the WLAN Autoconfig is ENABLED. Upon reboot, you should be connected to the internet, like normal.

    2. I have found that my BEST results with WLAN Optimizer is when it is NOT set to start with Windows. Upon reboot, after you disable your WLAN Autoconfig, that's when I manually start WLAN Optimizer.

    3. I will append the original post but be sure that the following has be "disabled". I would "disable" the check box first and upon rebooting, the new changes will have taken affect.


    Go to your Network and Sharing center by RIGHT CLICKING your icon:

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    That will bring up this screen:

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    After you click on Manage Wireless Networks, it will bring this window up:

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    Right click the ICON and go to PROPERTIES:

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    Be sure that little box is unchecked. Once unchecked, click OK and close it out. Ensure that you have ENABLED your WLAN Autoconfig and make sure that WLAN Optimizer is NOT going to start automatically. Let me know if this step helps. Be sure to follow it in the order that was given. I have another tool that I use to ensure that your Vista install isn't trying to "look" for other connections (its a Vista sidebar gadget).
     
  15. Don Rico

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    I have tried and tested the steps in the right order and still no luck. Getting those smaller lag spikes. I don't have WLAN optimizer start up when Windows starts. I also turn it on manually. I had the setting unchecked already within the Manage Network Connections properties. I guess I may need to use that gadget that you wrote about to see what Vista is trying to connect/refresh.
     
  16. officermartinez

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    A few more things to check:

    Login to your router. If it's a Linksys, I think the default user name is ADMIN and the default password is ADMIN. Make sure your ports are forwarded. Also, what type of connection are you using? For me (at the moment), I have a Netgear WNR2000 wireless router which is a 300 Draft N router. If I enable my router speeds up to its full potential (300) on my 54g wireless network adapter, I actually lose a lot of speed and my signal suffers a little. If I run my router at the 150 option, my speeds and signal improve significantly. Also, how much of your signal are you receiving? I usually stay above 90% and most of the time, around 98% of my full signal. What kind of internet connection do you have? (Please don't say dial up.. LOL). I'm on a 15mb cable line so I have some bandwidth to play with. Also, when you say you are still encountering the smaller lag spikes, what is it exactly that you are doing? If you are gaming, what game are you playing?

    Be sure that you are NOT mistaking the smaller lag spikes for an overworked or older video card. Playing Crysis on a 7800GT will cause the game to act very choppy (which is not a wireless internet problem but a short fall of a sub-performing graphics card). The same can be said for RAM.. 512mb's, 1gb's and in some cases, even 2gb's simply is not enough. What kind of setup are you running (CPU, Motherboard, etc)? Is the computer custom built or is it from a computer vendor such as Dell, HP, eMachines, etc.. ?
     
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  18. Don Rico

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    I have Comcast cable internet with about 12 mb down and 3 mb upload. I have an old Linksys WRT54G version 1 router with firmware version 4.2. I have a Linksys wireless desktop card WMP54G. My signal is pretty good all the time. Never goes down past 90%.

    The computer that I'm using is the computer that is in my signature. Custom built. I am not mistaking the lag for any inefficiencies with my computer hardware. I play online FPS shooter, CS:S, TF2, L4D and I have encountered those 60 second lag spikes since I built this computer about one year and a half ago. I do not experiences those if I connect on LAN, but connecting on LAN is troublesome since I have to drag a 100ft CAT5 line from my second floor of my house to the first. I followed your instructions to the point, and it worked a bit, the lag spikes are not as prolonged as before I followed your post.

    I was thinking about upgrading my router and wireless card to D-Link - Xtreme N Wireless-N Gigabit Router model DIR-655, and the D-Link - Xtreme N Wireless-N Desktop Card model DWA-522, but I've been reading that the driver for that wireless card is causing people running Vista 64-bit to BSOD.
     
  19. Ron FTL

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    Thanks for this.
    I am hard wired into my wireless router to eliminate any potential wireless lag, but my fathers Toshiba & my second PC experiences lag and sometimes all out disconnections while on wireless signals. (They are both on Vista)

    I will check and do this procedure with both PC's to see if it solves the problem. :)
     
  20. officermartinez

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    OK.. nice setup, BTW! So, the "big spikes" are gone but the little ones still remain. I had this same problem. It completely sounds like you have covered all of your bases.. I was getting the small lag spikes too. What worked for me was using this guide. So far here are the results:

    * I have 9 confirmed "it works great".. No more lag!

    * I have 1 confirmed "oh, it was my 7800GT graphics card stuttering" (that's why I mentioned that) ..LOL

    * I have 1 who was using AOL (Bring Your Own Access plan) 768Kbps DSL to connect to the internet (and had TONS of system resources being hogged on his single core AMD processor @ 1.8ghz with 512mb's of ram.. ouchies). - It's OK to poke fun, he is a good friend of mine and I have been telling him for a while that he needs to highly consider an upgrade.. LOL.

    * And I have you.. Still not working like it should. It would be totally cool if you lived in Fort Worth.. Have you run the Ping Tester program with your WLAN Autoconfig ENABLED and then DISABLED?


    I would definately like to hear your results!
     
  21. Don Rico

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    While running Ping Tester with WLAN Autoconfig enabled, within a minute and four second time span, Sent: 101
    Received: 95
    Lost: 6
    Loss Rate: 5.94%

    Running Ping Tester with WLAN Autoconfig disabled:
    Sent: 101
    Received: 99
    Lost: 2 (Lost the first one about 40 seconds in)
    Loss Rate: 1.98%

    Running Ping Tester with WLAN Autoconfig disabled AND running WLAN Optimizer:
    Sent: 101
    Received: 99
    Lost: 2
    Loss Rate: 1.98%
    (Same)
     
  22. officermartinez

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    Try running it for atleast 8 - 10 minutes.. That's why its important to check your EXACT time stamps. But, based on your info, it still appears that you have not disabled your WLAN Autoconfig (well, a better choice of words would be that VISTA did NOT DISABLE your WLAN Autoconfig).

    Brother, I wish I could pull up a chair and sit down next to ya, and see what's going on. I'm really scratchin my head on this one.. I'm up to 13 confirmed "it works". We'll get this figured out..

    1. What is the name of YOUR exact wireless connection? Did you use it or did you accidently use the name of MY wireless connection (Wireless Network Connection 5)?

    2. Can you copy and paste your DISABLE and ENABLE command (cmd) string in your reply (You can PM me this info if you like). Copy it by right clicking YOUR disable and enable icons.

    3. It would really help me if there was a way for you to take a screen shot EXACTLY when you are getting your lag spikes within Ping Tester. I use a small little program called SnagIt (by Techsmith). It is FREE for the first 30 days.
     
  23. Don Rico

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    Results from Ping Tester after disabling WLAN Autoconfig and running WLAN Optimizer:

    Ping test at : 1/4/2009 6:30:44 PM - 1/4/2009 6:40:24 PM



    Result:

    Sent: 948
    Received: 929
    Lost: 19
    Loss Rate: 2.00 %
    Min Time: 1 ms
    Max Time: 16 ms
    Avg Time: 1 ms
    Avg TTL: 64


    Detail:



    Ping 192.168.1.1:

    1. 1/4/2009 6:30:44 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    2. 1/4/2009 6:30:44 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    3. 1/4/2009 6:30:45 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    4. 1/4/2009 6:30:46 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    5. 1/4/2009 6:30:46 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    6. 1/4/2009 6:30:47 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    7. 1/4/2009 6:30:47 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    8. 1/4/2009 6:30:48 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    9. 1/4/2009 6:30:49 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    10. 1/4/2009 6:30:49 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    11. 1/4/2009 6:30:50 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    12. 1/4/2009 6:30:51 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    13. 1/4/2009 6:30:51 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    14. 1/4/2009 6:30:52 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    15. 1/4/2009 6:30:52 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    16. 1/4/2009 6:30:53 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    17. 1/4/2009 6:30:54 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    18. 1/4/2009 6:30:54 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    19. 1/4/2009 6:30:55 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    20. 1/4/2009 6:30:55 PM Reply from 192.168.1.1 bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 ok
    ---------- Only 20 rows of the ping test results be exported (Trial Version limits). ----------


    The first request time-out was at 18:31:28 and 18:31:29, then at 18:32:38 and 18:32:39.

    Other time outs:

    6:33:49
    6:35:00
    6:36:10
    6:36:11
    6:37:21
    6:37:22
    6:38:31
    6:38:32
    6:39:09
    6:39:42
    6:39:43
    6:40:05
     
  24. officermartinez

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    See the pattern? The problem is with your 3rd party (Linksys Software). The software appears to be adding a 10 - 11 second delay to the Vista WLAN Autoconfig delay times. I can see in your Ping Tester information that you also have a few "random" lag spikes. I would definately download the newest Linksys driver for your SPECIFIC Linksys wireless adapter. Linksys finally added Vista support for your adapter. It can be found here: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Sate...835852&pagename=Linksys/Common/VisitorWrapper

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    Once you have the newest Linksys driver for your adapter downloaded, I would uninstall that Linksys utility. Reboot. Upon reboot, Windows "should" locate new hardware and try to install your new Linksys Wireless Adapter Driver. Be sure to download the correct driver (I saw several options on Linksys's website depending on what version you have). Once it is installed, reboot (make sure the whole time, your WLAN Autoconfig is ENABLED). Once you have rebooted, attempt to connect to the internet. Before you do this, read this article as I believe it pertains to you: http://tredosoft.com/node/26 .. (the article is obsolete but as you can see, up until recently, your wireless adapter was not supported under Vista. But, the good news is, NOW IT IS) ! I have the RALink wireless utility for my wireless adapter too. It didn't play nicely with my setup either. If you are having problems accessing the internet, you can try to re-install the RALink utility (which will auto intall the new driver(s) but do NOT let it manage your wireless connection. If you do decide to use this method, you can simply go to MSCONFIG and click on the STARTUP TAB. Uncheck the box next to RALink, click apply and then OK. Reboot.
     
  25. f1y

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    OP failed, IP in colored out in the last image on the gadget. Yet it's a local IP. really doesn't need blocked out.

    Plus, the IP is posted 500 times in the ping checker Screenshots. 192.168.1.1

    Yet the network name, computer name, and type of security are everywhere.. OMG hack hack hack...

    lol j/k

    Good write up. I had roughly the same just happen to my roommates laptop.

    I changed what Channel our router was broadcasted on, and deleted other networks from the manage connect list.. Seems to work fine now. Atleast he hasn't bitched any. :)
     
  26. Ritorix

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    This can be a problem in XP too with Wireless Zero Config (xp name, aka Wlansvc for Vista) and the fact that both, under either OS, searches for every 60s for access points with the same SSID (for example, multiple wireless routers for the same network in a large building).

    Anyway, the problem is with Windows wireless services, NOT your hardware. Dont replace hardware to troubleshoot a Windows problem ;)
     
  27. officermartinez

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    Thanks. Often, changing channels works great (assuming you your connection is good to begin with). As for my IP, it's not my IP. Now, if you want the IP address of my internet service provider, knock yourself out.. hehehe.

    Ya, I am convinced that he can get everything up and going without swapping out hardware.. It's the software that was killing him (Linksys / RALink wireless utility). I hope he re-posts and keeps us up to speed with his progress. As for XP, it had the same basic issue with the wireless but that issue has long since been resolved. Vista, no so much. If you only knew how many lost hours I spent working on this, you would laugh, point your finger at me and tell me to get a life.. LOL!
     
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    +10 for Sticky! This works perfect! THANK YOU!
     
  29. officermartinez

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    No problem Kidfinger! I'm very happy to help. All of that darn time I spent, working on a solution, I figured I better share it with as many people as possible.. LOL! BTW, you are the 34th person to confirm that it worked for you. Maybe a Moderator can have it stickied as this issue affects almost ALL wireless Vista gamers.
     
  30. Don Rico

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    officermartinez, I first of all just wanted to thank you for all your help thus far.

    Regarding your latest post, Linksys does not have a driver on their page that will support Vista 64-bit. They have a 32-bit driver.

    The article that you presented here: http://tredosoft.com/node/26 was the same exact steps that I followed in order to get this wireless card to work in the first place. If you scroll a bit down on that page, you will see the steps on how to get the the card to work with Vista 64-bit.

    So instead of re-installing drivers, I took your advice and disabled the 3rd party Ralink wireless utility from my msconfig, startup. I then rebooted, disabled WLAN autoconfig, enabled WLAN Optimizer, then hopped into a quick round of CS:S to try it out. I still got lag spikes, but it didn't seem to happen as often as before. So I than ran Ping Tester again and started to get time outs every 60 seconds.

    I'm going to continue my testing. See what else I can do.
     
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    Hate to say it but this didn't work for me either... :mad:
    Kit: Netgear WGR614 v7 + D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510 PCI card.
    D'oh!
    There was speak that SP2 for Vista contains many improvements for wireless networking. Finger's crossed.
     
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    Any update? I am about to get rid of my Zonet 54g USB wireless adapter. I purchased a Rosewill (I know.. Rosewill????) 300 Draft n wireless adapter from Newegg. It's really getting GOOD reviews. It's one of those products from a (sort of less than stellar) vendor not really well known for really high quality components. The price tag is VERY acceptable and you can read the VERY GOOD reviews here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166025

    Sorry to hear.. BTW, what chipset does the D-Link AirPlus use? Is it the same as the Netgear WGR614 v7? Some wireless products are just simply incompatible but if you are able to get online, then I suspect, that's not going to be your problem.. Anyway, just google your two wireless products and see if there is a compatiblity issue ( here is one that I found: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Known_incompatible_devices ).
     
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    I just used the XP driver for my Linksys card and Vista anti-lag to stop the lag. It still lagged with the Vista driver

    Some people can try that if the want something simple.
     
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    That's awesome. Thank you for the input!!!
     
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    Hi, Thanks for the topic but this method hasn't worked for me either. My notebook is a clevo M860TU with an Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5300.

    I have also tried Vista Anti Lag, WLAN Optimizer and installing xp drivers but these drivers just behaved the same as the vista ones (however the file size was different).
     
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    Just FYI.. If you are using a third party program to access the internet, this guide will probably NOT work for you (RaLink software, Linksys software, etc..). You have to let Windows Vista manage your wireless connection..
     
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    Hi, thanks for the reply.

    Yeah I was reading the previous posts. I am not using any third party software to find an access point. Just the default vista one.
     
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    OK.. I've been trying to familiarize myself with your notebook. At first glance, one thing I noticed is: Does your notebook have wireless Draft N 300 capability? If so, does your wireless access point support the Draft N speeds? If not, I would set your speed to the wireless 54g standard check the lag issue there.. If it works good, step up to a 150 connection (if supported). Check that speed as well. For me, I currently have a Draft N router that supports speeds up to 300mbps. Well, I only have a 54g wireless adapter. If I enable the full 300 setting on my router, my wireless speeds absolutely suck (no other way to describe it.. LOL). If I lower my router speeds to 145mpbs, my wireless connection is awesome. I usually lock in at the full 54g standard with a connection strength around 98% (sometimes at the 100% signal). Some gamers have reported on your notebook, that they experience mouse lag if their vsync is enabled in certain games. That might be something to look at..

    Have you tried downloading and running Ping Tester? That little program is a sure fire way to actually "see" your wireless lag. Specifically, you want to check the lag intervals. If it's EVERY 60 seconds, yep, it's almost certain that you have the Vista Lag Spike issue. (2) other posters had lag spikes in the 70 second range (every 70 seconds or so). They were using a third party program to connect (but you've ruled that out so that doesn't apply). Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.
     
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    Hi thanks for the reply.I have no idea if my wireless supports "Draft N 300". I have everything on default.

    Firstly it doesnt seem that my spikes are as bad as other people's. If I ping my router and it spike I go from 1ms to 50ms but if I ping google or somethin I go from 50 to 200. But this is still a problem for me.

    I got the ping tester and got some interesting results.

    With WLAN Autoconfig enabled I got the spikes every 60 seconds exactly. With WLAN Autoconfig disabled I got the spikes around every 70 seconds but like you said before I have no third party software controlling my networking. Unless vista is still finding a way to force the scan through? or maybe my router is doing it? I don't know. I'm almost ready to give up and go back to vista :(

    My router is a Netopia 2247NWG and is running the latest software version (7.7.0r6)
     
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    Just downgraded to xp and I'm still getting them even if I turn "Wireless Zero Configuration" off. I am pretty annoyed now...