VideoCardz: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to become world’s first 16-core gaming CPU

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If it's $600+ then very few gamers and/or mainstream users are going to buy that processor and motherboard. It will sell as well as Intel HEDT systems...not very well.
What? Intel's HEDT sold very well. And AMD has taken a big chunk of those numbers. Now they are offering a 600+ chip and less then half the price of slower/hotter chip's? AMD has just taken a majority of Intels HEDT sales and it is HUGE for them. With the new ThreadRipper's coming, Intel has just lost ALL OF their highest margin non enterprise segments.
 

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The "problem" is that the 8C CPU chiplets won't be the same high level binned chiplets found in the 12C and 16C CPUs, so getting the 8C CPU to overclock to 4.7 GHz on 1-2 cores cores like the 16C does out of the box won't be easy or might be impossible due to silicon lottery.
There is little to no "silicon lottery" with any of the Zen's. Cool adequately, and they are all within a few 100 MHz. Your paying for out of the box speed/OC. and that is fine.
No magic here!
 

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That is not $750 unless you are talking about the SiliconLottery 5.1Ghz guaranteed OC:

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all/products/9900k51g?variant=15392436093014

I would only imagine what they would charge for a 5Ghz 3950X on air if that is even possible.
I meant people had paid more for less when they consider Intel.

And Intel has also announced 9900KS which turbo boost to 5ghz from 4ghz. Consider it to be even more pricer then original 9900K

Well Amd pulled of 5ghz on all 16cores by LN2 in handy. I dont expect that to happen on air.
 

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Intel will have a 10C / 20T which should be competitive with the 3900X if they can keep the clocks where they are however I don't see a path to compete with the 3950X on the mainstream. That will not happen until they get 7nm or move to MCM.
 

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AMD has just taken a majority of Intels HEDT sales and it is HUGE for them.
That isn't true. AMD took the crown only in the DYI market. Intel wins in the professional workstation market. Overall Skylake-X sells more than ThreadRipper.
 

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Intel will have a 10C / 20T which should be competitive with the 3900X if they can keep the clocks where they are however I don't see a path to compete with the 3950X on the mainstream. That will not happen until they get 7nm or move to MCM.
it won't be on the 115x platform though

so it's not competing directly with it.
 

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There is little to no "silicon lottery" with any of the Zen's. Cool adequately, and they are all within a few 100 MHz. Your paying for out of the box speed/OC. and that is fine.
No magic here!
So you are saying that any Zen2 will be able to hit 4.7 GHz boost like the 3950X?
 

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New socket again? I thought that was the next mainstream to replace the 9900K arriving in late Q4 2019 or Q1 2020
New chipset and socket last I heard. I'm sure it will be similar to 115X, but just different enough to justify a new motherboard. Very likely the same mounting holes for HSF's.
 

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New chipset and socket last I heard. I'm sure it will be similar to 115X, but just different enough to justify a new motherboard.
Will it support DDR5?
I know that Zen will have a new socket soon Zen4? or Zen3?
 

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That isn't true. AMD took the crown only in the DYI market. Intel wins in the professional workstation market. Overall Skylake-X sells more than ThreadRipper.
Which is really interesting.

There’s a lot of IT folks that won’t look anywhere but Intel. Should be interesting when you can get a comparable chip for a fraction of the cost.
 

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What? Intel's HEDT sold very well. And AMD has taken a big chunk of those numbers. Now they are offering a 600+ chip and less then half the price of slower/hotter chip's? AMD has just taken a majority of Intels HEDT sales and it is HUGE for them. With the new ThreadRipper's coming, Intel has just lost ALL OF their highest margin non enterprise segments.
Sold very well compared to what? Mainstream cpus? I think not. Compared to server skus, sure. Intel HEDT sales are a drop in the bucket to their revenue stream.

Please provide links to AMD taking majority of Intel HEDT sales. Also, please provide links to Intel losing all of their highest margin non enterprise segments. LOL.
 

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Sold very well compared to what? Mainstream cpus? I think not. Compared to server skus, sure. Intel HEDT sales are a drop in the bucket to their revenue stream.

Please provide links to AMD taking majority of Intel HEDT sales. Also, please provide links to Intel losing all of their highest margin non enterprise segments. LOL.
HEDT wouldn't have sold worth a shit compared to any server or mainstream SKU's. Not even close. HEDT is like the Corvette. It's for bragging rights and the enthusiast, but Chevrolet sells far more Silverado's than Corvette's. Out of those, more Silverado's are mid-level trim trucks than high end trucks with leather and all that crap.
 

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HEDT wouldn't have sold worth a shit compared to any server or mainstream SKU's. Not even close. HEDT is like the Corvette. It's for bragging rights and the enthusiast, but Chevrolet sells far more Silverado's than Corvette's. Out of those, more Silverado's are mid-level trim trucks than high end trucks with leather and all that crap.
I know that and you know that. Others not so much.
 
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