Video Gaming Is Helping Boys Land Better Careers, but Hurting Girls

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  1. Megalith

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    According to a new study from the University of British Columbia, video games are a great idea for boys, but girls should avoid them. While video games can lead to higher math test scores and attractive careers because they enhance the player’s co-ordination and visual-spacial and problem-solving skills, experts are suggesting that only boys are reaping those benefits, as the gaming world is hostile toward females due to “sexist or sexualized female character depictions, and harassment from other online players.”

    Gaming culture prioritizes male heroic characters rather than females, and when game characters do appear, they are often sexualized, she says. Many girls who play computer games also face harassment in the games community. At times, it’s vicious. “Closing gender differences in intense gaming by enticing girls to play more may be advisable only if parents pay attention to the gaming content and the gaming community, which is not always female-friendly,” she says.
     
  2. PenGunn

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    My daughter played Quake 3 a lot. My son and I introduced her to the game and she just took it to another place. I don't know why she is so good, I suspect she has unusual control as her art is at a very high level. She blows glass for a living and is at concert level of musicianship.

    She took to Q3 like a duck to water. She played on the servers that had the real monsters playing. My son and I could play there but we did not do well,while she was right there with the top guys. She developed her HUMILIATION game there. She would find a fight and rocket them to near death then switch to the fist and go in and get HUMILIATION after HUMILIATION in that huge fruity voice as she finished people off. Entire servers would change to her game as it was fun.

    I guess I could have kept her from humiliating so many males, but I failed our sex in this case. ;)
     
  3. RobCalleg

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    Complete bullshit article and study with an obvious agenda.
     
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    Have they heard what guys tell other guys on the internet? I'm a nice guy and even I've made someone cry before.
     
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    So videogames are sexist?
     
  6. collegeboy69us

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    harassment? I'm confused... I thought they wanted to be treated equally? Or is this more... "treat me equal, until you hurt my feelings and because I have a vagina I automatically have more rights than you" sort of deal?

    Like it or not, shit talking is part of the game. What you have between your legs makes no difference to me while we all play murder simulator 2000 or whatever the game happens to be.

    The sexualization argument would hold a lot more water if there wasn't an endless queue of women on twitch playing video games in their underwear raking in thousands or tens of thousands of dollars from strangers for looking good.
     
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    Pics of daughter (if 18 or older, I not a pedo) ;)?
     
  8. Mchart

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    Given that studies in social science have little peer review process and anything can be published - this isn’t even worth the news.
     
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    Isn't everything? Well I mean everything that's not racist or course.

    This day and age everything is either racist, sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, trannyphobic, you name it, somebody is offended.
     
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    She is in her mid 30s now. I'm 72 at this point. She is ggirl.og on Instagram.
     
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    Tired of every single new game and movie requiring a female character that is more masculine and badass than her male counterparts. You know that’s what this “study” is trying to do.
     
  12. Meeho

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    "The gender gap became apparent in the analysis of math test scores from more than 56 Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) countries. Researchers found teenaged girls scored two to three percentage points lower than boys on standard math tests."

    For fucks sake, it's because men are biologically better at maths on average, news at 11.
     
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    Would be where I am today without A: Games and B: Learning to tweak and optimize the hell out of Unreal and Quake engine games for more performance via configs etc.

    Same is true for kids now and Minecraft, it's a great intro to JVM optimization.
     
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    I know a lot of well to do gamer dudes that would die happy men if they could find a gamer bride, not that I'm condoning gold digging amongst gamer women. . .
     
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    I've read the study and it's typical questionable methodology, lots of ASSumptions and standard corelation-causation problem, but this was most amusing:

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    So, there's a significant increase in boy gamers and significant decrease of girl gamers over time, yet the math score difference remains constant.

    It is a mistery!
     
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    Maybe if they get some more women in these studios, quality control would go up so the game worked right on day one. If it is all male populated now, anything would be better than current state. Tired of having to wait for weeks after game release for bugs to be worked out.
     
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    Hey I have a great idea, let's NOT empower women and suggest they DON'T do things that could put them into STEM areas. That's how we end sexism and segregation yes?

    Fucking ignorant pieces of shit.

    Oh, also, how about gaming is fun hey? Ever thought of that?

    Honestly, gaming girls and women are so much more interesting and cool than those who don't game. Those that don't game are so booooorrrrinnnnggg. Empower the sexes! All of them!
     
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    The tears are delicious!
     
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    Other people's problems aren't real problems. Thanks for your insight.
     
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    And another article noted that less men around 20-35 are working, and getting degree's, because they spend too much time playing video games.. so which is it..
     
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    Can't tell which, don't honestly care.
     
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    Er...can't they just use fake names? Nice androgynous or boy names and then they just get the ordinary harassment. Or, you know, forget the online part, some games still have good single player. I don't play online still lots of stuff to play. The dolls they play with already seem pretty "sexualized" and unrealistic: so are they not used to that crap already?
     
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    I'm here for the comments :ROFLMAO:
     
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    Women sure need a lot of boosting don't they? It makes one wonder if they really are the weaker sex.
     
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    Gaming culture can be harsh and uninviting to women and girls, for sure. You know who else it’s harsh and uninviting to? Literally everyone else. Shocking, I know!
     
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    When i played on a high level we had a few girls in the clan, and at least 1 of them was on the team if we had any clan fights.
    Good fraggers and good fun too :cool:

    BTW you do know girls / women, they can be at least as nasty as boys / men can be, right ?
    But still i am old school when it come to the opposite sex, as my friend say i am born at least 500 years too late and at least 2000 Km too far North = old fashioned with a strong liking for high temperatures,,, pretty much the reverse of my friend. :)
     
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    I have two daughters that play video games online. One plays a lot of Fortnite with other friends (all guys). She is 12. I had to tell her to not say she was butt raping someone recently - I don't think she knew what it meant, but either way, not cool to hear her talking like that :)
    My other daughter plays Roblox and a few Steam games. She hates Fortnite.
    Back to the story, I think the article is crap.
     
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    •Charlie Brown's Thanksgiving cartoon is now racist.

    •Rudolph the Red Nose Raindeer is now racist and homophobic.

    •Baby it's Cold Outside is now mysoginistic and sexist.

    Sorry, someone uses the words sexist, racist or homophobic I immediately tune them out because they're likely full of shit.
     
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    To each other they are way nastier than men.
     
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    World to end tomorrow, women and minorities hardest hit.
     
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    "UN Women is the UN entity for #genderequality"
     
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    I agree, girls should avoid video games.

    Unless they can run with the pack, stick to candy crush.

    The science is settled and 99.7% of climate scientists agree!
     
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    I'm really not surprised this is the very first reply. Whenever I do internet searches about inequality about anything, the first response to the question invariably is something to the opposite. Newton's third law I guess.
     
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    My wife used to play soooo much Overwatch with voice chat as D.VA sitting right next to me. It was all completely normal, she actually made friends with another married couple that games and now they send each other gifts for our kids.

    Her online gaming expirence has been no different than mine. We equally have had our moms being called out to be banged.
     
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    maybe in America (doubt) but hell, girls are widely considered to be better at maths and academics from middle school to college outside of America.
     
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    Well, say goodbye to your games then. Historically speaking ... anything that they found to benefits boys, but not girls, they will axe ... like recess and old math.
     
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    72 years old? that's Amazing.

    lol, they are Already hiring women by the droves, why do you think Quality has tanked?

    haven't you seen how many female Gamedev employees got fired this year alone for being incompetent misandric Nincompoops.
     
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    I don't understand your examples. None of the bullet points made any sense to me. I am genuinely wondering what are you talking about.

    Your last paragraph makes sense, though. But who does that? Anyone in real life?
     
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    Video games on the internet are a toxic environment. Boys apparently can handle it girls apparently can't. Maybe the issue is with how we socialize women to always expect everyone to be nice to them...? don't get me wrong I wish the internet was a more civil place but it's not. People online are shitty but they are shitty to everyone if I had a dollar for every time someone online told me to kill myself or threatened to hut me or talked about fucking my mom I would be rich (like literally rich not exaggerating for hyperbolic effect here).
     
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    No, but the human genome is.
     
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