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Crosshairs it's goes beyond that besides knowing anything about gun laws they don't understand self defense from both bad people and their own government inevitably becoming tyrannical. Our own government is on the precipice but we have the cartridge box if the ballot box fails and non Americans above all should understand this yet..... They are beyond clueless.
You guys can say that and hold those beliefs if you want. I just know that as a Canadian I don't even feel safe traveling to the USA, let alone living there. There is something to be said for feeling safe and having a good quality of life in your own country. And that matters a lot more to me, personally, than worrying about a tyrannical government or being taken over by some hostile power which could somehow magically penetrate the most powerful military on earth combined with that of at least 10 other powerful nations. Lots of tin foil hats down there clearly. It's sad because lots of innocent people are dying and people aren't even safe living in their own country.
The scenario I brought up was one that a 72 year old gun owner (complete with active reloading bench, holstered 9mm hanging off a bed post and more long and short guns than I could count) relayed to me.
Then I give you "most" of my guns. Then a week later, I kill, you, or your brother, or boss, from a few hundred yards away with the hunting rifle I did not tell you about. This is how a civil war is started.
The answer is "Yes", because a bunch of idiots got together and decided that if you are mentally deranged, your doctors can't share that with anyone unless you give express, written, permission to that specific person or organization. Thus, no medical history shows up on background checks (unless said person went to their doctor and filled out a form that said "yes, please share my records with the FBI" less than 12 months prior to buying a gun).
Interesting. Then WTF was Crosshairs doing calling me ignorant?
Americans always had the right to bear arms, the Constitution just makes it so the government can't infringe on that right.
Would you support legislation that would completely prevent mentally deranged people from owning guns?
Unknown. This is one of the big arguments surrounding gun background checks. We want to make sure everyone's personal information is protected as much as possible, but I think there should be some exceptions. If a person has been diagnosed with schizophrenia, that should show up on their background check if they go to purchase a firearm.
Make it so that if someone is mentally deranged it will show up on a background check. I will stay in Canada. But you cannot silence me. I don't care if you work for the site. Insult me more if you want as well. It just makes you look bad. If you had a leg to stand on debate wise maybe you would get somewhere.
This is all exaggeration and I am sorry you are not correct about the 2A because it was not created so that anyone could organize a revolution against our police force, the government or its standing Army. Its a document that outlines the underlying foundation of our current system of Government from the point in time it was written. If it is all torn down our society does not all magically restart. My guess is that no one is getting their guns taken away and that assault weapons will simply be harder to get and maintain over time and the civilian population gets to keep buying shotguns, handguns, high-powered rifles and even flame throwers.
You called me ignorant and then encouraged me to stay in Canada and stay out of the discussion. All the while I was completely correct. The current system in the USA does not prevent mentally deranged people from owning guns. And pretty much all of the mass school shootings were committed by mentally deranged people, often with legally purchased guns. So like I said insult me more if you want it just makes you look bad. And yes calling someone ignorant and telling them to stay out of your country for no reason is both rude and insulting.
I am sorry, but the framers of the constitution, and the 2A to it, were pretty explicit in their writings, (the federalist papers), on what exactly the 2A was inserted into the constitution for.
I does not "prevent" criminals from getting them either, it is merely illegal for criminals, and those adjudicated mentally defective, from purchasing and owning them.
Not everybody has common sense. Doesn't feel safe in the US? Not the brightest, and probably lacking common sense. It's cool if he stays in Canada. We have enough of those people anyways.
Sure thing dude. I'm stupid and lack common sense for wanting to prevent deranged people from owning guns. It couldn't possibly be the other way around eh.
It is already illegal for mentally defective people to purchase, own, or take possession of firearms.
It is clearly not sufficient or else we would not see so many of these horrible things happening with guns the shooters purchased themselves legally in stores.
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Dylann Roof
The only person making you look bad here is yourself. It pretty ironic that you mention over and over about being mentally deranged when clearly that label fits you perfectly based on the nonsense you have spewed here in this thread.
You gun nuts are really aggressive and you add absolutely nothing to the discussion aside from your vitriol. It makes sense seeing as innocent deaths clearly mean nothing to you.