Untangle or something of the sort

Because UTMs (like Untangle or Astaro) do far more than off the shelf stinksys/nutgear/dstink routers..you get so much more protection from a UTM (Unified Threat Management). Google can illuminate you on what a UTM is.

Also for those that don't run UTMs on their hardware, but run some other more basic distros like m0n0wall, Smoothie, PFSense, IPCop, etc....those easily will kick the living crap out of a store bought router performance wise without even breaking a sweat. There's a lot more than just running speedtest.net tests and seeing if you stinksys router can handle all 50 megs of download speed you're getting from your ISP. Factors like max concurrent sessions, and ability to properly and fully implement QoS and/or traffic shaping. For a single home user or even two people at home, no big deal. But for someone with a larger household of heavy computer users, someone that wants to be able to still do their online gaming while other people in the house are all downloading torrents and/or gaming themselves online and/or shopping online and/or wife watching youporn and/or .....and you still want good online pings? No problem with a good distro like PFSense...I can have 3-4 other computers in my house going full bore on the internet and they won't affect my online pings at all. Try that with your store bought plastic box. Yeah, DD-WRT helps out, I love Tomato better, and I've fiddled with many other 3rd party firmwares for the Stinksys boxes like Hyper-WRT, Thor, etc. And I've had more business grade 200-500 dollar bigger name routers at home, But unless you push your internet harder, and have tried some of these *nix router distros....it's hard to explain, just "trust me!"...it's like night and day. ;)

Thanks for that - I ran a smoothwall for years and loved it to death, no more UDP packet death in CoD when refreshing a server list...but that rig died in a basement flood LOL. No firewall protects against water damage. I happened to have this WRT350 sitting around and it had over heating problems, a heatsink and fan later it works great. I'm gonna go dig around my spare bedroom now and try to find shit hardware to run a smoothwall on again and see if I can find a difference.

I also have a few servers behind this dd-wrt....mostly game servers, think my clients will notice a difference?
 
what's the noise level like on those 1U supermicro cases?
I need something very quiet
 
what's the noise level like on those 1U supermicro cases?
I need something very quiet

pretty quiet, to make it more quiet you could use a laptop sata drive to reduce heat and the use for another fan to keep it cool.
 
any recommendations on other cases that support larger fans?
I don't necessarily need it to be 1U
I don't see much point to buying the all in one supermicro 1U server vs buying the motherboard and building it myself
 
any recommendations on other cases that support larger fans?
I don't necessarily need it to be 1U
I don't see much point to buying the all in one supermicro 1U server vs buying the motherboard and building it myself

the point of the supermicro combo unit is, because of the value intel network cards small form factor and VERY LOW power consumption but great through output for the firewall.

That 1u box creates hardly any heat, use's hardly any power, and is silent.

Im running a core 2 duo 2.2 with 3 gigs ram and 80gig hdd, and it's warm and makes noise.

Soon ill have a 1u supermicro, just soon!

Buying a motherboard ram cpu cooler psu case network cards, all add's up over the price of the 1U supermicro.

Remember the unit we are talking about has all quality parts, ie Intel G-bit NIC's dual core atom etc etc.
 
the point of the supermicro combo unit is, because of the value intel network cards small form factor and VERY LOW power consumption but great through output for the firewall.

That 1u box creates hardly any heat, use's hardly any power, and is silent.

Im running a core 2 duo 2.2 with 3 gigs ram and 80gig hdd, and it's warm and makes noise.

Soon ill have a 1u supermicro, just soon!

Buying a motherboard ram cpu cooler psu case network cards, all add's up over the price of the 1U supermicro.

Remember the unit we are talking about has all quality parts, ie Intel G-bit NIC's dual core atom etc etc.
the motherboards in the 1U servers are available for purchase serperately and that's what I would buy
something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182238

I have an Antec Solo and EarthWatts 430W PSU that aren't being used
might save some money and go that route

those of you who have the supermicro 1U units, are they quiet enough to have in your living room?
 
what's the noise level like on those 1U supermicro cases?
I need something very quiet

Whisper quiet..I don't even know it's running..and my rack is right next to my bar and pool table in the downstairs mancave.

Passive heat sink on the CPU.
 
what was the price you got it for ?
$118 shipped
it was the last one, as soon as I bought it, the product page went out of stock

I understand the SPE boards are not ITX spec, being 7.5" x 6.75" vs 6.75" x 6.75"
so they will not fit in an ITX case like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154091

but a full size case like the Antec Solo should be no problem right?
I saw something somewhere about the I/O ports on the back of the SPE boards do not line up correctly with any case other than the SuperMicro 1U server cases but haven't been able to confirm that

so right now the plan is

SuperMicro MBD-X7SPE-H-O
Antec Solo
Antec EarthWatts 430W
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 SO-DIMM F2-6400CL5S-2GBSQ
Western Digital 3.5" 500GB WD5000AAKS

so to completely replace this POS Netgear 3700, I just need a switch and wireless access point, right?
 
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$118 shipped
it was the last one, as soon as I bought it, the product page went out of stock

I understand the SPE boards are not ITX spec, being 7.5" x 6.75" vs 6.75" x 6.75"
so they will not fit in an ITX case like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154091

but a full size case like the Antec Solo should be no problem right?
I saw something somewhere about the I/O ports on the back of the SPE boards do not line up correctly with any case other than the SuperMicro 1U server cases but haven't been able to confirm that

so right now the plan is

SuperMicro MBD-X7SPE-H-O
Antec Solo
Antec EarthWatts 430W
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 SO-DIMM F2-6400CL5S-2GBSQ
Western Digital 3.5" 500GB WD5000AAKS

so to completely replace this POS Netgear 3700, I just need a switch and wireless access point, right?


that's a very nice score.! You will enjoy this unit / configuration / setup !
 
those of you who have the supermicro 1U units, are they quiet enough to have in your living room?

Definitely. I was also looking for something to put in my living room as I limited space. Can barely hear the SuperMicro units. Easy to set up and they run great. If your board has IPMI, that's an added bonus because you can do remote management. Now if I can just find a #$%@! quiet router I would be set!

Can't answer your question about the Solo as I am using the supermicro server cases.
 
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Definitely. I was also looking for something to put in my living room as I limited space. Can barely hear the SuperMicro units. Easy to set up and they run great. If your board has IPMI, that's an added bonus because you can do remote management. Now if I can just find a #$%@! quiet router I would be set!

Can't answer your question about the Solo as I am using the supermicro server cases.
I thought the Untangle box replaced your router :confused:
I know the Solo is quiet
 
Untangle does replace your router. I ditched the routing services of my WNR3500 for an Intel D510MO running Untangle. Couldn't be happier. Got an Intel dual port low profile PCI-X NIC off ebay to through in it and I'm off to the races with a router that doesn't require a reset every 30 days.
 
would the MBD-X7SPE-H-O motherboard fit in the CSE-502L-200B chassis?
 
I thought the Untangle box replaced your router :confused:
I know the Solo is quiet

I used the SuperMicro to install pfSense. pfSense is the same idea as untangle just built on a different OS. I am attempting (unsuccessfully, I might add) to find a quiet cisco router to put behind the pfSense firewall. I want to add an extra layer and mess around with VLANs and zone based firewall policy. I know it is probably redundant but I don't care.

Didn't mean to confuse :D
 
If I didn't just read that this needs to be whisper quiet I was going to recommend picking up a rackable system off of ebay. $200 shipped for a fully loaded server. Can update the Opteron CPUs from 250 -> 285 for 4 cores for UTM ($40). It's a great amount of power for UTM for very cheap in a half depth server.

YeOldStoneCat, have you tried these machines in your time with Untangle? You've got a ton of experience with this product from what I've been reading.

Anyways, hope whatever you build works great for you ;-)
 
If I didn't just read that this needs to be whisper quiet I was going to recommend picking up a rackable system off of ebay. $200 shipped for a fully loaded server. Can update the Opteron CPUs from 250 -> 285 for 4 cores for UTM ($40). It's a great amount of power for UTM for very cheap in a half depth server.

YeOldStoneCat, have you tried these machines in your time with Untangle? You've got a ton of experience with this product from what I've been reading.

Anyways, hope whatever you build works great for you ;-)

Please post link to the unit you are talking about.


J'
 
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This isn't the one that I got but if I had double the budget I would have gotten this as I'm using mine for an ESXi server:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2U-NM46X-Server...A%2BLM&otn=10&ps=63&clkid=6806282286243114689

Here is the one I got:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Yo%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

I plan on adding more ram and changing the CPUs out for these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MATCHING-PAIR-A...6CB-/320557308186?pt=CPUs&hash=item4aa2b4591a

I think those are really loud machines.!
 
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yeah thats why when it mentioned you wsnted a quiet machine these probably wouldn't be the option for you. however they are cheap and have lots of juice so if its getting installed in a datacenter or a closet or something like that these machines would be geat i think.
 
Wow, been using the [H] for 10 years...sheesh, since i was 20. Fun times. Love the [H].
 


I had a Rackable Systems 2U very similar to that one that I used for my first WHS. Needed more drive space so I got rid of it after a year. Now I have a 1U Rackable with a P4 that I use for my Astaro Home box. Love those Rackables. You can quiet them down significantly if you volt mod the system fans and turn on the AMD Cool-n-Quiet features in the BIOS. :D
 
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that's a very nice score.! You will enjoy this unit / configuration / setup !
got the motherboard today, looks to be in good shape and included the accessories
hopefully I can get it installed today and make sure it isn't DOA

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got the motherboard today, looks to be in good shape and included the accessories
hopefully I can get it installed today and make sure it isn't DOA

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NIce you will have to post some pictures for us :) Make sure you get a copy of Untangle 8.1 :)

I just got my intel server board back from DOA today too, might have time tonight to setup the new server.
 
NIce you will have to post some pictures for us :) Make sure you get a copy of Untangle 8.1 :)

I just got my intel server board back from DOA today too, might have time tonight to setup the new server.
any input on x86 vs x64?
 
any input on x86 vs x64?

how much ram you going to run ?


I put 4 gigs in mine just because i had spare, but notice no difference between x86 & 64 running at home.


If in a larger environment with more users and more load, then yeah you would probably want to run the 64 bit version and more ram.
 
how much ram you going to run ?


I put 4 gigs in mine just because i had spare, but notice no difference between x86 & 64 running at home.


If in a larger environment with more users and more load, then yeah you would probably want to run the 64 bit version and more ram.
I bought a single 2GB stick, can add another if needed
I'm the only full time user, but I would like to never have to worry about overloading it, even if I have 20 people over running their laptops
 
I bought a single 2GB stick, can add another if needed
I'm the only full time user, but I would like to never have to worry about overloading it, even if I have 20 people over running their laptops

2gigs you will be fine :)

My first box only had 1 gig and it was fine with 8 machines streaming and pulling in traffic from the web.
 
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