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I got many critical drivers I use that require UAC off to function.
So what is an example of a critical driver that requires UAC to be disabled?
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I got many critical drivers I use that require UAC off to function.
So what is an example of a critical driver that requires UAC to be disabled?
I got many critical drivers I use that require UAC off to function. And yes UAC can be completely bypassed, i've literally sat and watched it happen. I am -not- going to debate that with you over the internet as i could honestly care less if you believe me or not, it's your pc, not mine. I run the garbage with it off, it is garbage, it's fucking annoying, it screws over many complex tweaks and programs i use that no i can't "Tweak UAC" to work for, by design it breaks their code, and their code is the -only- way they can work. So there is no "poorly written" statements to be made, simply must work the way they do.
i find it appalling that tech guru's suddenly can't keep their shit safe and UAC (Which doesn't work, if someone wants to bypass it, they simply will.) is now their fail safe. Sad, Just sad.
Don't bother replying i'm not watching this thread after this, kinda sickens me tbh.
Well it's rather difficult for UAC to interfere with your drivers as UAC is for user-mode code, not drivers.
You are most likely running into the requirement that Microsoft imposes that all kernel mode drivers must be signed. This is done in the name of "security" but it's really a ploy to make money from people by selling certificates (GnuPG is infinitely more secure due to it's decentralized nature). The only way around this is to switch to an operating system that respects your ownership of the computer.
*nix operating systems have been multiuser from the beginning. Programs in the *nix world have always been written to handle the fact that they may not have full access to the computer. In contrast, Windows started out as a single user operating system where every program has full access to the system. As a result, elevation prompts are much less common in *nix environments because programs are and have always been written to not require superuser privileges unless they absolutely need them.
This is exacerbated by the fact that Visual Studio allows people with limited or no programming experience to create crude programs without the understanding of how to write good code or even how to program.
hey if he "feels" that he is just as safe......lol that's like saying "I feel just as safe pulling out as I do with wearing a condom" lol. UAC is the only thing that 100 absolutely protect you against things like rootkits.....
There are ways around UAC though. If you can "bypass" UAC, you can do pretty much anything you want.
Sort of tricky to code, but it can be done.
Makes it easier if you already know or can get the admin credentials for a machine.
I got many critical drivers I use that require UAC off to function. And yes UAC can be completely bypassed, i've literally sat and watched it happen. I am -not- going to debate that with you over the internet as i could honestly care less if you believe me or not, it's your pc, not mine. I run the garbage with it off, it is garbage, it's fucking annoying, it screws over many complex tweaks and programs i use that no i can't "Tweak UAC" to work for, by design it breaks their code, and their code is the -only- way they can work. So there is no "poorly written" statements to be made, simply must work the way they do.
i find it appalling that tech guru's suddenly can't keep their shit safe and UAC (Which doesn't work, if someone wants to bypass it, they simply will.) is now their fail safe. Sad, Just sad.
Don't bother replying i'm not watching this thread after this, kinda sickens me tbh.
Wait.....People on this forum actually use UAC?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
...ok , I'll stop being a dick, but still...
I doubt that.I'll stop being a dick
Care to link to a present unpatched exploit which makes it easy to circumvent UAC?
Not going to post my code, but it is based off of Microsoft's own C++ examples which leave a few things out for it to work properly.
My current code does require you to know the admin user/password, but it completely bypasses UAC without even bringing up a confirm dialog box which a previous version used to do.
If someone knows the admin user/password, UAC is kind of the least of your worries.
True, but it is still bypassing UAC.
True, but it is still bypassing UAC.
My experience with UAC:
Vista - Left it on until I got angry at the screen dimming.
7 - Disabled the screen dimming and never disabled UAC
8 - Forgot I even used to mess with the settings.
UAC is 100% worth it but everyone here has already adequately explained why. I can't believe this topic brings out so many trolls, conspiracists and phony elitists. I never realized that Visual Studio enabled people to code who shouldn't be coding. damicatz, thank you for reminding me why I avoid linux.
And cyclone3d, I'm sorry, but you are not a 1337 h@x0r. Using the admin user name and password to run with code with elevated privileges is not an exploit.
UAC and its supporting systems fixes what was a grotesque design flaw in prior versions of Windows.
QFS! Yeah, sounds like you really know what you are doing. Clearly, you have issues and should get them checked out. All you sounded like was that you walked into a room, slammed your fist down, said what you wanted to say and quickly left before anyone had a chance to disagree with you in anyway.
Show us straight up evidence, not just crap.
I see how it works but I turn it off. I don't have any precious files though.
It is a hassle having it on and if you live in fear the terrorists have already won.
No UAC for years, no viruses for years.
Question: Do many people actually encounter viruses these days?
Then the file installs stuff, which is normally where the UAC kicks.
Question: Do many people actually encounter viruses these days?
I see how it works but I turn it off. I don't have any precious files though.
It is a hassle having it on and if you live in fear the terrorists have already won.
No UAC for years, no viruses for years.
Question: Do many people actually encounter viruses these days?
Microsoft has done a huge favor implementing this feature, yet you guys still insist on being lazy as fuck...
It doesn't really matter what Microsoft does with Windows, there's always going to be people who will hate it. There does seem to be a lot of mischaracterization and even tall tales being bandied about in this thread. Really, beyond installing software 95% folks just aren't going to see UAC prompts in 7 or 8 on any kind of routine basis. I've always told my family members that unless you're installing software, that you click "No" on a UAC prompt and I've never heard any of them mention any issues or being annoyed by UAC.
...we paid for it. They weren't "doing us a favor".Microsoft has done a huge favor implementing this feature, yet you guys still insist on being lazy as fuck...
...we paid for it. They weren't "doing us a favor".
Question: Do many people actually encounter viruses these days?
It does, yes. Dimmed UAC prompts fire immediately in Windows 8, which is quite nice.