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According to this news report, almost 100,000 people in the United States logged on to Canada's immigration website after the elections on Tuesday, causing the site to crash. I am not kidding, that really happened.

It seems Donald Trump really did send them running to Canada. Or at least got them thinking about it. As the businessman and former reality TV star emerged as the winner of the American presidential campaign Tuesday night, 100,000 people in the Unites States visited Canada's immigration website, contributing to a crash.
 
So something like .03% of the population wants to take their toys and leave because their favorite candidate for President didn't win?

Call'em Johney Depp and show'em the fucking door.
 
If I relied on Obamacare, I'd be looking for a way out too. Pretty sure whatever replaces it is going to be all kinds of fucked up.
 
Someone needs to tell them Canada is not a "Safe Space"....you can't just move-there. First, you need money for the process..so that eliminates like 8,000 of those people. You also need a job, I am pretty sure, to be allowed to emigrate. So unless all these people are Bloggers.....they need employment. And Mittens.

This is 10,000 people with no clue and over-active imaginations. THANK YOU Major Media for creating an atmosphere of pure HYSTERIA. However, if you have stock in any company producing Benzos like Xanax.......well, now....you're getting dividends this year for sure.....
 
lcpiper said:
So something like .03% of the population wants to take their toys and leave because their favorite candidate for President didn't win?

Call'em Johney Depp and show'em the fucking door.
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Enjoy paying 35% tariff on imported goods, enjoy your Philip monitors
 
HeadRusch said:
Someone needs to tell them Canada is not a "Safe Space"....you can't just move-there. First, you need money for the process..so that eliminates like 8,000 of those people. You also need a job, I am pretty sure, to be allowed to emigrate. So unless all these people are Bloggers.....they need employment. And Mittens.

This is 10,000 people with no clue and over-active imaginations. THANK YOU Major Media for creating an atmosphere of pure HYSTERIA. However, if you have stock in any company producing Benzos like Xanax.......well, now....you're getting dividends this year for sure.....
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Thanks for this.

As someone who had dealt with immigration before (Canada to the US - but the reverse process is quite similar), I can attest entirely you cannot 'just' decide to move to Canada. You not only need a job, you need an employer to sponsor your immigration application and attest that you are filling a position that you are uniquely qualified for - meaning that you can't just go north and work in a diner. On top of this, you have to sign waivers and provide bank statements proving that you fall within a certain income bracket to ensure that you won't end up on welfare. You can't have been convicted of a violent crime or a list of other crimes that would make you ineligible for immigration. Also - be prepared that the entire process can take nearly a year.

Also also, for people complaining about the possible repeal of the ACA, you don't just 'get' healthcare when you immigrate to Canada. Depending on the province (as universal healthcare is handled at the provincial level, not federal) you might have to wait at least 4-6 months to start receiving benefits. You have to have a healthcare card and show it when you get treatment. Canadians don't just show up at the hospital and get treatment.

While I'm not thrilled with the outcome, people that are threatening to move away or protesting in the streets are not helping their cause. The next 4 years will be interesting and I hope that Trump does a great job. I'm more worried about the divide in American society created by this incredibly divisive election than anything either candidate would have done as president.
 
Come here to Canada. We'll welcome you with open arms. All 100,000 of you. That pretty much creates 100,000 job vacancies. Trump Is sure living up to his promises early on. Justin here can't promise you any jobs though.

Maybe a wait and see approach would be better?
 
The sad reality is that these people aren't going anywhere (especially all those big stars who made bold promises). They think that every country has lax immigration policies, and are in for a rude awakening. To the few who actually do make good on their promises...good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
mynamehere said:
The sad reality is that these people aren't going anywhere (especially all those big stars who made bold promises). They think that every country has lax immigration policies, and are in for a rude awakening. To the few who actually do make good on their promises...good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Yea, I'd throw them a farewell party for sure.
 
If we had a rule against people who have been brainwashed by a political party it would solve these problems after every damned US election.
 
Krixon said:
Also also, for people complaining about the possible repeal of the ACA, you don't just 'get' healthcare when you immigrate to Canada. Depending on the province (as universal healthcare is handled at the provincial level, not federal) you might have to wait at least 4-6 months to start receiving benefits. You have to have a healthcare card and show it when you get treatment. Canadians don't just show up at the hospital and get treatment.
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Actually, you can and people do. If they are a citizen or permanent resident, they can present to the ER and be seen. But they have to either sign a consent to search for their health card in the provincial data base or agree to pay and get reimbursement later. If you are a non-resident and have a car accident, you will be fixed up and sent a bill (much less than you would get in the US).

You can also buy cheap insurance to cover any medical care while you are here.

At the same time, as has been said above, Canada has some of the most restrictive immigration regulations on the planet for Americans. But not Europeans. Or legitimate refugees. We just welcomed 25,000+ Syrians and they are doing pretty well, thanks.

And don't forget, leave the guns at home. If you thought our immigration regulations were restrictive, you wouldn't believe our gun regulations.
 
mynamehere said:
The sad reality is that these people aren't going anywhere (especially all those big stars who made bold promises). They think that every country has lax immigration policies, and are in for a rude awakening. To the few who actually do make good on their promises...good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Thanks, we'll take all your NBA and MLB players who want to try out for the Raptors and the Blue Jays. Many Raptors players are already saying they are happy to play basketball in Canada.
 
America is entering a new era like it or not for better or worse. I'm scared and I'm in Canada. Talk about ripping up NAFTA could have huge implications here. The world is watching... Remember trade wars was a major cause of the world wars... I'm usually an optimist but it's hard to be lately... Hoping for the best.
 
psy81 said:
I'm scared and I'm in Canada. Talk about ripping up NAFTA could have huge implications here. The world is watching... Remember trade wars was a major cause of the world wars... I'm usually an optimist but it's hard to be lately... Hoping for the best.
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He's not talking about eliminating trade with Canada, as the trade is reasonable even.
It's the lopsided deal with Mexico, as well the one side deals with China that are the problem. These need to be adjusted to make them more balanced instead of the US taking it on the chin so the multinational companies cam make a few more bucks.
 
I think its the US that's (supposedly?) going to impose a 46% tariff on Chinese imports. Maybe you can then import your PC parts from Canada. NCIX will be happy. Then say goodbye to Newegg and Amazon US and Best Buy etc. Maybe even Walmart.

Canadian health care may not be all its cracked up to be, but at least it's single payer (government). No health insurance required. That's why even without a health care card its a hell of a lot cheaper than in the US. Hell - even Cuba is cheaper - see Micheal Moore - Sicko.
 
I apologize to Canada. They don't really need any more of these types of people. :(

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And don't forget, leave the guns at home. If you thought our immigration regulations were restrictive, you wouldn't believe our gun regulations.
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Wait until you find out how easy it is to get a short barrel pump action shotgun, and that you can order semi automatic rifles via the internet and have them shipped to your house. The former which requires heaps of restrictions and hoops, the latter impossible in the US.

Aside from the US, Canada is probably the most lax when it comes to legally accessing a firearm. And with more and more restrictions piling on in many states, Canada is looking rather good.
 
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HeadRusch said:
Someone needs to tell them Canada is not a "Safe Space"....you can't just move-there. First, you need money for the process..so that eliminates like 8,000 of those people. You also need a job, I am pretty sure, to be allowed to emigrate. So unless all these people are Bloggers.....they need employment.
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Where is a GoFundMe campaigns for the one way tickets?
 
DKS said:
Actually, you can and people do. If they are a citizen or permanent resident, they can present to the ER and be seen. But they have to either sign a consent to search for their health card in the provincial data base or agree to pay and get reimbursement later. If you are a non-resident and have a car accident, you will be fixed up and sent a bill (much less than you would get in the US).
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True, however this isn't much different than what I said. You still need to have a health card to get the main benefits of Canadian healthcare - though you are entirely right in saying that even non-residents pay far lower fees than they would in the American system.
 
TechLarry said:
Thats some weak sauce ass web site there. 100k users took it down? I guess that's the canadian version of a DDS attack (Dumbass-Democrat Surge).
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We live in a land of good governance. Paying more then required for server capacity is not prudent. ;) That site doesn't very often see that much traffic in a month never mind a few hours.

As for emigrating over Trump... that does seem pretty knee jerk. Lets be honest our economies are pretty much knitted together like the bright green red or blue pair of woolen mittens every Canadian was forced to wear as a kid. So not withstanding social policy issues, if Trump tanks the US economy your taking us with you anyway. Our dollar has taken a beating... with all of Trumps talk about NAFTA. Canada is a pretty great place to live though. It is possible to come this way, still not sure an election result is a good reason. I have an American brother in law, and my first wife has a sister who is also married to an American who moved south from Alaska. My first wife jokingly offered herself in marriage for $... Trust me Trump is no that bad.

In Canada we just hope people still know blame Canada was a joke... wait it was right. :)

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c1220.html

If you scroll through the US trade data (we are the largest US trade market). The US / Canada trade numbers are darn close to parity on the import export numbers the last few years. You can scroll all the way back to 1985 and see NAFTA had no major effect on the ratios over time... just the total amount of $ going both ways. (The US went from exporting $85,149,000,000 in 1991 to 178,940,900,000 in 2000 when Clinton left office) The ratio of imports/exports did go up slightly in favor of Canada in those years (still the amount Canada imported doubled)... over the 16 years since Clinton the ratio has dropped as Canada grew. This year the ratio is going to end up in the low single digits and next year its likely for the first time Canada is going to import more from the US then we export. (last year the USA exported $280,609,000,000 to Canada. The amount of product we exported to the USA was only 3% higher with numbers that large that is as close to parity as I think you can pretty much get)

I doubt considering the facts and the size of the trade Mr. Trump does anything rash. He is likely to temper his talk about Canadian trade at least. Considering right around 200 trillion goes both ways there would be little point of both sides slapping on duties. It would simply increase manufacturing costs on both sides of the border and put the funds which the manufacturers will likely pull out of union worker contracts into Gov coffers on both sides for them to piss away.

I can understand why so many Americans where dissatisfied with trade deals in general of course. The issue is the USA has a -557,625,000,000 trade deficit so far this year. Of course the issue isn't Canada or even Mexico (the trade deficit with Germany is larger). The issue simply is the Pacific Rim -336,464,000,000 (that's over 60% of the total and countries in the Pacific Rim like Australia mask those numbers as they import more then they export from the USA).... those numbers are not sustainable for years. To put that in perspective the trade deficit with Mexico is -46,811,000,000 or put another way around 12% as much as the deficit with China alone. If Trump makes some headway on that one (don't ask me how honestly) it will be good for both the USA and Canada.
 
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I enjoy the anecdotal stories (typically a friend of a friend ... or "I knew a guy), which are used to discredit our Canadian healthcare system ... however I have one of my own.

My father needed his mitral valve repaired a number of years ago, about a year before he retired. He saw his doctor, was referred to and saw a specialist in about a month, and had his surgery a few weeks later. My father is now doing very well and the only thing he ever paid for was a portion of his medications.

Quickly googling the average cost, of the same procedure, in the US, I get a figure of 80,000 - 200,000 for the procedure alone.

So my father is now enjoying his retirement as opposed to what could have been if he had to use the US system.
 
Fyi, Canada fucking sucks too - just for lots of other reasons. Unless you hate money, love taxes and overpaying for goods - I suppose. Our healthcare is pretty sweet though, unless you need elective care (such as a presurgical MRI for a herniated disc - elective, even though you require 20mg hydromorphone to get through your day - still a 10 month wait).
 
Draax said:
I enjoy the anecdotal stories (typically a friend of a friend ... or "I knew a guy), which are used to discredit our Canadian healthcare system ... however I have one of my own.

My father needed his mitral valve repaired a number of years ago, about a year before he retired. He saw his doctor, was referred to and saw a specialist in about a month, and had his surgery a few weeks later. My father is now doing very well and the only thing he ever paid for was a portion of his medications.

Quickly googling the average cost, of the same procedure, in the US, I get a figure of 80,000 - 200,000 for the procedure alone.

So my father is now enjoying his retirement as opposed to what could have been if he had to use the US system.
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Yeah, there is shit like this that really shows how our system CAN work. My father has NHL and has received stellar care, save for around 100k spent on medication (4 rounds of chemo, and support now).

It seems counterintuitive to bitch about having 0 luck finding an endocrinologist or dermatologist, when these aren't life threatening consults I need... But I wish I could pay for health insurance and get seen. I've been struggling with these non essential conditions for 2 years, and have begun self medicating because I can't find doctors in Toronto.

My father had an inguinal hernia some years ago - and elected to pay or private care, as the typical Ontario recovery timeline was approximately 2 years rather than 4 months. This is because the hernia, which wasn't life threatening, wasn't a priority for our strained mri, ultrasound and surgical resource pool. He was bedridden. He required demerol IM shots just to eat or use the washroom. It was heartbreaking, the man wasn't even 60 yet.
 
i7Baby said:
I think its the US that's (supposedly?) going to impose a 46% tariff on Chinese imports. Maybe you can then import your PC parts from Canada. NCIX will be happy. Then say goodbye to Newegg and Amazon US and Best Buy etc. Maybe even Walmart.

Canadian health care may not be all its cracked up to be, but at least it's single payer (government). No health insurance required. That's why even without a health care card its a hell of a lot cheaper than in the US. Hell - even Cuba is cheaper - see Micheal Moore - Sicko.
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According to my friend in BC, she has to pay for insurance (have things recently changed?). Care to enlighten me as to why that is? You haven't mentioned the tax rates. Canada is a beautiful country, but as with everywhere, it has it's downsides as well.
 
EODetroit said:
If I relied on Obamacare, I'd be looking for a way out too. Pretty sure whatever replaces it is going to be all kinds of fucked up.
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Insurance is pretty useless if the majority of your expenses are still being paid out-of-pocket. A lot of marketplace plans have deductibles so high that they're really only useful in emergent situations.
 
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