TV tuner USB or PCI ?

medire

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Which are better ?
I'm affraid i can't get a PCI tuner,because my GTX 285 graphic card covers the PCI free slot i have,and the other PCI is for sound card.My mobo is Gigabyte GA EX58 UD5.
In this case i will have to remove the GTX card from PCI EX16_1 _1 to PCI EX8_1,but the cables form case ( cooler master 690 CM ) are in my way on the end of the graphic card.
So i think the best way for me is to get an USB TV tuner.
Are they any good ? Is there a difference between USB and PCI TV tuners ? I mean,picture quality,stability,and averything.
Thanks.
 

darkpaw

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I've had both and vastly prefer the pci-e ones. You can always put the tuner card in that bottom port you talked about moving your video card to if you're not planning on using SLI. Thats what I ended up doing with mine (its actually in the middle of the 3 16x ports).

The USB ones tend to have much worse quality IMO.
 

medire

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I will attach here a printscreen with my motherboard slots. GIGABYTE GA-EX58 UD5.
On the PCIEX1_1 and PCIEX4_1 is free.
On the PCI EX16_1 is my graphic card GTX 285.
The empty slot PCI 1 is covered by the graphic card.
The slot PCIEX16_2 is free ,but i can't put there the graphic card because i have on PCI 2 (underneath) my sound card,so the last posibility is to remove the graphic card to
PCIEX8_1,but there the only problem is,on the end of the graphic card i have some cables from my Cooler Master 690 CM case,and i don't know if i could fix them right.
Can i find a TV TUNER which is compatible with the PCIEX1_1 and PCIEX4_1 slots,from the printscreen??
Thanks for your help,any ideas are welcome.
 

medire

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I've had both and vastly prefer the pci-e ones. You can always put the tuner card in that bottom port you talked about moving your video card to if you're not planning on using SLI. Thats what I ended up doing with mine (its actually in the middle of the 3 16x ports).

The USB ones tend to have much worse quality IMO.

You mean , i can put the tv tuner in the PCIEX8_1 slot ?? I thought ,tv tuners PCI are compatible just for PCI slots.
I'm confused now. Is there more different kind of tv tuners PCI ?
PCI / PCI E ... ?? Please explain me.
What about the free slots i have ? PCIEX1_1 and PCIX4_1 ? Are the compatible as well, with some tv tuners?
 

medire

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Buy a pci-e and use the 1x slot.
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Okay,cheers.
I checked it now in google.
I'm gonna buy PCI-E. Now the question is " which tuners are good"? :D
I wanna have some good quality. I'll spend about 100 euro for a TV tuner.
Advices ? Thanks again.
 

delvryboy

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I have the ati HD 650, however I haven't gotten around to using it.

It is a pci-e 1x though.
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darkpaw

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You can use the PCI-E 1x cards in any slot. I have a hapuagge (I know I spelled that wrong) 1800 and have been pretty happy with it. It works great with media center and has rather decent quality. Before that I had 2 USB tuners and have had standard PCI tuners for years.
 

JonDoms

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If you are in Europe I think you will need a DVB-T one correct? Unless you are in the States.
Look into Hauppauge. I am not sure if they make a PCI-E x1 DVB-T one though. As I live in the States and don't keep track of what they make for the EU.

I also recommend the HVR 2250.
 

Met-AL

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USB user here.

Pinnacle HD Stick Pro. It's not a bad little tuner, high quality image, sound is good, etc.

It does take a bit of a bite out of your CPU though... my laptop is maxed out with it, AMD 2Ghz Turion. My desktop though, no problem with it's e8400.
 

mtrupi

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I've only tried one USB stick tuner. It worked well enough but on a big screen the video was not the best quality. Not sure if the PCI types are better. In generall you get what you pay for though.
 

ambientZ

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USB tuners are fine if the source is broadcast already encoded as mpeg2 (HDTV, etc); however my huppauge usb stick tuner gets lost by the drivers every few weeks and i have to reinstall things which is annoying.

I prefer pci-e, i just got a dvico fusion 7 dual express for dual hdtv tuning goodness, but i dont know what kind of card you are going to need in euro-land. (dvb-s? i dont know your broadcast tech at all).
 

medire

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So,i decided to go for PCI E.
But i have a problem with my mobo free slots. That's funny.I repeat:
On the PCIEX1_1 and PCIEX4_1 is free.At the end of the PCIEX1_1 is a blue "cover /lid /cap" so the end of the TV tuner PCI E card wont fit there. Geeeez.
On the PCI EX16_1 is my graphic card GTX 285.
The empty slot PCI 1 ( underneath) is covered by the graphic card.
The slot PCIEX16_2 is free ,but i can't put there the graphic card because i have on PCI 2 (underneath) my sound card,so the last posibility is to remove the graphic card to
PCIEX8_1,but there the only problem is,on the end of the graphic card i have some cables from my Cooler Master 690 CM case,and i don't know if i could fix them.
So my question is : can i buy i tv tuner to stick it into PCIEX8_1 or PCIEX4_1 ??
I think that's all i can do.
Here some links /pictures with my mobo slots.
http://www.jatoncomputers.com.au/images/GA-EX58-UD5.jpg
http://www.expreview.com/img/news/2008/10/20/x58/X58-ALL-14.jpg
Please ,heeeelp :)
 

JonDoms

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HVR-2200 is for Europe. The HVR-2250 is for the US.
Put the HVE-2200 in the yellow slot PCI-E x4.
The HVR-2200 is a PCI-Ex1 card and it will fit and run fine in your x4 slot.
 

medire

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Thanks a lot,Jon Doms. I see that the slots PCIEX1_1 and PCIEX4_1 are a bit different,but i trust you.
 

medire

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I looked at :
http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=425
http://www.custompc.co.uk/labs/220149/hauppauge-wintv-hvr-2200.html
http://www.ginger6.com/components-cards-asus-cinemape6300-hybrid-tuner-pcie-profile-p-30953.html
Guys,please tell me: is there a difference between PCI and PCI E,at all ? I mean quality ,speed,stability,clearer picture image....?
There are a lot of tv tuners,but PCI ,so i won't be able to stick in my free PCI slot,unless i remove the graphic gard to PCIEX_8 ,and i'm affraid to do that ,for 2 reasons:
1) cable managment doesent look very well,for the end of the graphic card
2) PCIEX X8 = slower ( i'm not sure)
If i'd buy a tv tuner PCI ,could i put an adapter PCI - PCI E,and stick it in PCIEX4 ?
Is that possible at all ?
 

darkpaw

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A PCI card will not work in a PCI-E card (no adapter either). The bandwidth of a PCI-E 1x is the same as a PCI, quality wise there is no real difference between them. The electical specifications are different and the PCI-E will be better for forward compatability since PCI slots are becoming rarer, and often stuck in out of the way places on boards now. I don't have personal experience with any of the three cards you've listed so I can't really comment there. I have a different Avermedia card and it works ok, but doesn't play as nicely with QAM as my H1800 does.
 
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