TPU AMD RX 6600 XT Review

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Not a single rx 6600xt came to me today, at least what I followed, it seems that they all went to the big European countries, Germany the most and Germany no longer gives us supplies.



if someone gave it to me for free I wouldn’t complain:D
 
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The sole reason there's not a rush for this card is, it costs more than a 2080 while performing a bit worse. It's not "some games". Show me a single game this card can't do at QHD properly.
That really subjective, Cyberpunk at 1440p without raytracing at ultra quality:
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People would say that you do not need to run ultra quality for it to run properly, some would feel they need 75fps+ for certain game to run properly and that is not it:
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It depend of what one feel properly is, but it does not average 60fps at 1440p in many title at ultra quality (let alone 70-80+ is that where someone and someone screen comfort zone happen to be).
 

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Properly doesn't equal to ultra. At most it would refer to high. You could even run some intensive titles like MSFS properly looking at all medium or a combination of mid - high. Though I'd side towards high rather than medium, in which case the card WILL run at at least 60 FPS in all those titles maybe except some dips in Cyberpunk. Also, that title is heavily broken.
 

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Here it is guys, in my neighboring country, hungary, appeared 6600xt asus and sapphire, the price is from $ 800 up to 980 usd.
And 380 usd is too much for you?
If I could buy it for 400 usd I would probably buy it but above 400 usd I don't give it.
 

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I'm fine with shelling 380 for a card, I've shelled 500 for a top design GTX 680 back in the release days. That's not the thing though, if this card costed 400, the 6700 XT would have costed 500 (the written MSRP of custom GPUs pretty much do actually), and in that case you know what you'd buy. :)
 

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Here it is guys, in my neighboring country, hungary, appeared 6600xt asus and sapphire, the price is from $ 800 up to 980 usd.
And 380 usd is too much for you?
If I could buy it for 400 usd I would probably buy it but above 400 usd I don't give it.

It is still way above what I am prepared to spend on a video card nowadays, especially if it is not the top-of-the-line one. That the same card is more expensive elsewhere is simply not relevant.
 

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it is completely sold out, Newegg had a BOATLOAD of them all to themselves, and i still could not get one from the shuffle, or ANYWHERE else.

it is pretty irrelevant, rather it can RT at 200fps, or game at 4k. it is slightly lower power than the previous card version, and it is FOR SALE, so, it is SOLD OUT!
 

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I picked out three 6600 cards from the shuffle and actually won one of them - the Sapphire Nitro+ one (the one I actually really preferred).
At 1440k it seems to have about identical performance to my late departed 5700 XT and the MSRP price was a lot cheaper than what I'd have paid on eBay to get another 5700/6700 replacement card, used.

Are they value? No - but nothing in 2021 is anymore and it was obtainable. It will do - last me until the next RDNA3 series launches next year, anyway.
Or, with this card already selling at $700 on eBay, I just might get tempted to flip it and then buy a 6700 XT :?

FYI, MicroCenter is still showing several 6600 cards as being in-stock, a day after launch, so they must have gotten a boatload of them too.

/never used to spend over $200 for a GPU :/
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Sadly it has been a 'take what you can get' situation for quite some time now hasn't it. Our local Microcenter has some 6600xt cards still showing in stock but the pricing is probably why they aren't sold out already.

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Those look pretty close to the AIB MSRP prices for the better cards. All of the $389 one sold first. My Nitro from the NewEgg shuffle was $449.
Sure there will be price creep up as the original stock sells out, though
 

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The sole reason there's not a rush for this card is, it costs more than a 2080 while performing a bit worse. It's not "some games". Show me a single game this card can't do at QHD properly.

Costs more than a 2080? lol... tone down the trolling, you're trying too hard ;)
NewEgg doesn't show a single 2080 in stock for less than $1000. Amazon is slightly worse, even. None in-stock at MC. Burned out used mining cards on eBay aren't much cheaper. Thusly, a $1000+ card is not an apples/oranges equal for a @ $400 card. Real world; as in able to buy this today/now.
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=nVidea+2080
https://www.amazon.com/nvidia-2080/s?k=nvidia+2080


This is 2021 - forget MRSP and forget value - you buy what you can, when you can find it, at the best $/frame you can manage. The 6600 XT is not a great value card and is only on par with a 5700 XT, but it can handle 1440p gaming at an acceptable level = at an acceptable price
 

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I was referring to the old prices, obviously. The only one trolling here is you. Nobody cares how much a 2080 costs today unless it's dirt cheap, those are old scalped to moon prices. I know I paid less for my 2080 than this card. It just ain't worth it compared to the new in box 6700 XT's going on Ebay.
 

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/sigh.... apples/oranges
In the last 30 days on eBay, the average NIB 6700 XT sold @ $700 (non-reference cards $50+ more)

Again, in 2021 original MSRP for 2020 (and older) products is a fantasy number with almost no bearing to reality
 
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I ran that game on QHD just fine high - med using a 1080 Ti. That's also another case of a broken game anyways.
I thought it did not even ran on Pascal (a Ray-Tracing Capable GPU as part of the minimum spec.):

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/sigh.... apples/oranges
In the last 30 days on eBay, the average NIB 6700 XT sold @ $700 (non-reference cards $50+ more)

Again, in 2021 original MSRP for 2020 (and older) products is a fantasy number with almost no bearing to reality

Which straight out leads to the fact of both GPUs not being worth it, but the 6700 XT somewhat.

I thought it did not even ran on Pascal (a Ray-Tracing Capable GPU as part of the minimum spec.):

Did you even play the game? It ran like crap when you turned RTX on, and no I don't think anybody forced you to RT in it.
 

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Did you even play the game? It ran like crap when you turned RTX on, and no I don't think anybody forced you to RT in it.
There is no turning RTX on in the menu, just RT normal, high or ultra, I feel like you are not talking about the Enhancing edition but the older regular one. Yes they do force you to RT in it, being a RT only edition of the game is the hole point.
 

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'Not worth it' is an individual value decision - 2021 GPU prices are a complete train wreck. 99% of the time I would probably agree with you, but since my 5700 XT choked I needed something ASAP... and today/now buying at MSRP for the Sapphire Nitro+ 6600 XT was 'acceptable'.
If I'd had my old RX580 Nitro++ Special still sitting around in a box, I'd have happily reinstalled it and waited until sanity returned :/
/sold it unfortunately, pre-COVID... for half of what it sells for now :/
//cries
 

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There is no turning RTX on in the menu, just RT normal, high or ultra, I feel like you are not talking about the Enhancing edition but the older regular one. Yes they do force you to RT in it, being a RT only edition of the game is the hole point.

Yeah, I was referring to the other one. I think the card can still run it, but IDK how well the performance would be. It's capable of some RT after all. Besides, that's a specific Nvidia based case. The regular game would run totally fine on the card.
 

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Yeah, I was referring to the other one. I think the card can still run it, but IDK how well the performance would be. It's capable of some RT after all. Besides, that's a specific Nvidia based case. The regular game would run totally fine on the card.
It was a joke the poster made.
 

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It is still way above what I am prepared to spend on a video card nowadays, especially if it is not the top-of-the-line one. That the same card is more expensive elsewhere is simply not relevant.
Should be $299 or less at the high end for this and that is pushing it
Yes, the rx 6600xt is for those who had like me gtx 1060 3gb (or gtx 1060 6gb), the price should be around 299usd and that would be ok.
I have a ryzen 2700x, 1080p monitor, weak power supply and normally high end graphics mean nothing to me (pcie 3.0), this rx 6600xt is just right for such mid range configurations.If I would change the monitor then again I have to change everything and it's just too expensive sport, it always was and now especially.
Otherwise the rx 6600xt came to "my" country, the price for sapphire pulse rx 6600xt is around 800usd in a well-known webshop, stronger graphics like nitro + and red devil with better cooling are a bit more expensive.
I just don't know who will buy it here at these insane prices, these who have expensive processors, motherboards and larger monitors have long since bought high end rtx 3000 series or rx6800, mostly out in Europe or some here while they were still so much normal prices.
Also every now and then I hear how mining will stop blah blah and of that normally there will be nothing, many buy only one graphic and then mine in their free time, normally everyone wants to earn something if they can already.
 

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Mining with a single card is not always profitable, if you have a high TDP, mid level Mh/s card... you've been kind of out of luck to start from zero just to mine. Electric bills and other stuff alone might not even make it worth the while. That might however be a different story with this card in particular, but that's the exception, not the rule.
 

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Mining with a single card is not always profitable, if you have a high TDP, mid level Mh/s card... you've been kind of out of luck to start from zero just to mine. Electric bills and other stuff alone might not even make it worth the while. That might however be a different story with this card in particular, but that's the exception, not the rule.
Yes, it is much harder now, in the very beginnings of cryptocurrencies it was possible to earn a lot who was smart and capable, I had all the good graphics for mining like hd 7950, rx 480 etc. but in the end almost none of it for various reasons.
Mining has now become global, states are getting involved, they will probably have to pay taxes as well, they want to control everything, there are probably big mining farms, etc., it's not like in its infancy.
I don't have enough information to predict what will happen to graphics cards but obviously there won't be any normal prices anymore and amd and nvidia will be happily selling graphics for mining farms.
 

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Miners might move to ASICs more in the future, at least that's what some people are presuming. Hopefully things go that way and that would help the GPU market a bit.
 

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Gamers buy 75% of the cards, so are getting the majority of supply.

Once eth goes proof of stake all your prayers will be answered at the end of the year. GPUs will rain from the sky and if you aren't hung up on some ridiculous notion that a mined with card is 'burned out' you'll be able to pick one up for super cheap. Just gonna take some patience. I think part of the issue with the AMD supply is a lot of wafers are going to the consoles.
 

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I was able to get a XFX MERC 308 6600XT nearish MSRP in Canada on launch day. It's making for a perfect little upgrade over my R9 Fury for my aging haswell based i7-4770k system :)
 

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Gamers buy 75% of the cards, so are getting the majority of supply.

Once eth goes proof of stake all your prayers will be answered at the end of the year. GPUs will rain from the sky and if you aren't hung up on some ridiculous notion that a mined with card is 'burned out' you'll be able to pick one up for super cheap. Just gonna take some patience.
I'm not so sure that first line works out. And you basically contradict it, with the next.

Nvidia has boasted about their revenue selling direct to miners and its been shown multiple times, that's it not just salvaged junk cards which weren't fit for a regular GPU product. In fact, that idea came pretty late (likely once they had enough stockpiled, for that to be a viable product segment).

Also, third party suppliers are undoubtedly selling crates of cards to miners.

Additionally, a lot of "off the shelf" buyers are mining.

And then we have the scalping market. Which has made online shopping feel impossible.

I concede its tough to really parse out the numbers. But it doesn't feel like the average gamer is even exposed to half of the supply, at "retail". And what we are exposed to is only if we are willing to jump through all the hoops with the various indirect buying methods (newegg shuffle, raffles, handing out tickets, physical stores only, etc), or essentially join the scalpers in their own game, to have a teensy chance at maybe snagging a card or console from a website. And virtually any pathway right now, leads to grossly increased pricing.

Any options which are not increased or relatively small increase, are minority opportunities.
 
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I concede its tough to really parse out the numbers. But it doesn't feel like the average gamer is even exposed to half of the supply, at "retail". And what we are exposed to is only if we are willing to jump through all the hoops with the various indirect buying methods (newegg shuffle, raffles, handing out tickets, physical stores only, etc), or essentially join the scalpers in their own game, to have a teensy chance at maybe snagging a card or console from a website. And virtually any pathway right now, leads to grossly increased pricing.

Here in parts of Europe there are lots of cards in shops, ofc it's around MSRP x2 so you are getting scalped at retail iso fleabay. My only hope is that seeing they are in stock for longer periods of time that prices will eventually drop to more reasonable levels or distributors will ship to markets with higher demand for insane prices.
 

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But it doesn't feel like the average gamer is even exposed to half of the supply, at "retail"
To have an idea of that, one would has a starting point need to know how much of those cards are sold via the Hp-Dell pre-build gaming PC of the world, for example

https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-aurora-r12-desktop?~ck=mn

If this has a low shipping-waiting time (they say around 22-26 working days for a 3080, 19-23 for a 3070, 15-19 for a 3060TI, 12-16 for a 3090)
 

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Here in parts of Europe there are lots of cards in shops, ofc it's around MSRP x2 so you are getting scalped at retail iso fleabay. My only hope is that seeing they are in stock for longer periods of time that prices will eventually drop to more reasonable levels or distributors will ship to markets with higher demand for insane prices.
what kind of "shops" are these? independant computer shops? or a retail chain which has both a major website and physical stores.

In the U.S. Major retailers generally do not have cards in store, unless they are specifically restricting them to in-store sales only.
To have an idea of that, one would has a starting point need to know how much of those cards are sold via the Hp-Dell pre-build gaming PC of the world, for example

https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-aurora-r12-desktop?~ck=mn

If this has a low shipping-waiting time (they say around 22-26 working days for a 3080, 19-23 for a 3070, 15-19 for a 3060TI, 12-16 for a 3090)
I don't think a sold computer through Dell grantees its a gamer or that its not actually going to be scalped. Its no secret that buying a whole pre-built is a relatively good value, compared to buying a card by itself.

and those wait times are a fair bit better now, than they were a couple of months ago. Like when the 3060ti production nearly didn't exist ; )
 

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what kind of "shops" are these? independant computer shops? or a retail chain which has both a major website and physical stores.

In the U.S. Major retailers generally do not have cards in store, unless they are specifically restricting them to in-store sales only.

Both, some smaller, some bigger ones, even amazon has some stock, example https://www.amazon.nl/s?k=rtx+3070&rh=n:16366443031&__mk_nl_NL=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&ref=nb_sb_noss
other shop https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA).html
 

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I don't think a sold computer through Dell grantees its a gamer or that its not actually going to be scalped. Its no secret that buying a whole pre-built is a relatively good value, compared to buying a card by itself.

and those wait times are a fair bit better now, than they were a couple of months ago. Like when the 3060ti production nearly didn't exist ; )
Sure, I am sure many bought pre-build, put an old card in them and resold them.

But it would be sales with a much much higher percentage of them going to an actual user directly I would imagine.
 

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I'm not so sure that first line works out. And you basically contradict it, with the next.
https://www.pcgamer.com/cryptominers-grabbed-25-of-all-gpus-at-the-start-of-2021/

The commercial outfits are the biggest share of the mining demand pie, and it was 25%. Gamers are getting the majority unless shown otherwise at this point. Regarding contradiction, not really. 25% of global supply being dumped on the used market over the course of a few months is basically going to be a bonanza of used parts available.

The scalping market does suck however it's what happens every time you have demand for something and supply is constantly wiped out. Between gamer and miner demand, and whatever else is putting pressure on it, they can't keep up with what's needed to satisfy demand. And so here we are, and every week when amd has their sale event (btw, you need queue time of 5 mins or less to 'win'), at least some of those end up on ebay for 2x the cost of what the person paid to get it.

Take it or leave it I guess. I've bought some gpus but I'm done paying $1000+ for a 6800.
 
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My Sapphire 6600 XT Nitro+ plus arrived and I'm really happy with it - even at the price.
I was able to troubleshoot my wonky Gigabyte 5700 XT some more (and got it working - it was a bad HDMI cable!) and then decide which card to keep and which to just resell.
FurMark for the 5700 XT was 5623 points vs 6113 points for the 6600 XT - both at 1440p, so I guess this means that instead of being comparable, in my PC the 6600XT is an improvement :)
Also a smaller card/runs less hot/burns fewer watts... nice pluses
/Gigabyte 5700XT is on eBay
 
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Impulse bought this yesterday, prolly gonna use the 6600xt for mining and sell the mobo at cost/small loss:
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