Tor and Bitcoin Hinder Anti-Piracy Efforts

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  1. HardOCP News

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    The European Union Intellectual Property Office seems to be under the impression that Tor and Bitcoin are hindering anti-piracy efforts. Strange, I was under the impression that pirates are what are hindering anti-piracy efforts. ;)

    A new report published by the European Union Intellectual Property Office identifies a wide range of 'business models' that are used by pirate sites. The organization, which announced a new collaboration with Europol this week, signals Bitcoin and the Tor network as two key threats to ongoing anti-piracy efforts.

     
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  2. buhbuhfet

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    it's the new world order's war on encryption, they want to control and dominate everything, and of course they can't do that when we encrypt stuff and they can't decrypt it
     
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  3. buhbuhfet

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    and when they can't decrypt your encryped stuff, it makes them really really mad
     
  4. Jadawin

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    Sure... it's Tor and Bitcoin. They aren't even able to bring down The Pirate Bay for good, but it's Tor and Bitcoin. All they want is to outlaw encryption - and it won't work. In the end, encryption is freedom of speech.
     
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  5. buhbuhfet

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    exactly, and if there have been crime committed make them provide evidence or witness,
    if you're spying on everybody you're making everybody criminals by default,
    which is the point of fourth amendment
     
  6. tetris42

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    I like how most piracy doesn't even involve either of these programs. At least the anti-torrent people had a point that they're used for piracy in addition to legit uses.
     
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    But the fourth amendment doesn't work for computer data.
    Evidence is negligible in rape cases.
    And the NSA has been spying on everyone for a good long while now.

    All of your lines have been crossed.

    I know NSA is USA, but I'm sure Europe has similar programs running.
     
  8. buhbuhfet

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    yes it does,

    your point?

    and they will continue to do so until we stop them

    yeah well, it's up to us to decide if we want to live as slaves or as free people
     
  9. pothb

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    Not with one of the recent rulings. I don't think it's been overturned yet.

    Further down hat post.

    Pretty much.
     
  10. buhbuhfet

    buhbuhfet Limp Gawd

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    a ruling that goes against the intention of the constitution is null and void, the problem is not the entire constitution is good and wholesome,
    few parts of it need to be amended if we are to evolve and progress as a free society
     
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    Not saying I subscribe to the way it's ruled but the courts interpret the law. So unless they overturn it, that's the law.
     
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    whatever contradicts the constitution is not a law, and if you allow it to be, you have nothing left to protect you
     
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    Like I said, it doesn't matter what you say. It matters what the court say. If the court somehow say that you have to own a gun and have it stuck up your ass to have freedom of speech from the first amendment, it'd still be the law. And unless they overturn it or you overturn them, that's how it is.
     
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    like i said, it doesn't matter what the courts say if it contradicts the constitution, constitution is the supreme law, always has been
     
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    and again, what the court says is what the constitution says, as their interpretation is the only interpretation that matters.
     
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    well i can tell you know little about the law, and even less about freedom
     
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    If you say so, but ou seem to know little about the judicial branch.
     
  18. M76

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    I'm afraid for freedom of speech in the EU. Especially germany. There were cases were they convicted people for speaking out against the immigrant policy. They weren't even advocating for violence, but they got convicted and got suspended jail sentence. And one judge even added that next time they won't get away that easily with promoting right wing agenda. So apparently it's illegal in Germany now to be on the right wing. All the while the crimes committed by immigrants are kept under wraps and not even prosecuted in fear of creating an anti immigrant atmosphere.

    They're so damn afraid of their own past that they don't even allow legitimate criticism, because what if it allows the right wing to get mainstream again.
     
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    I'd love to know what you think in the constitution is holding everyone back?

    The only thing I see it holding back (and only just barely as its meanings get twisted all over) is the power hungry.
     
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    when they interpret the law to mean the opposite of what it does, their status means little,

    not sure what you are asking, can you clarify?
     
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    Like the ruling that the 4th amendment doesn't protect your computer if the police wants to hack it for data?
     
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    I am surprised a country has not issued part of their currency in ala-bit coin system.
    Yes all governments power control blah blah.. but think about it in terms of the international sphere.
    US and allies seem to keep a tight control, and proceed to strangulate economies here and there by manipulating high-level fiances.
    I think a country that creates an fosters a real cyber currency market place (in a big big way), will have a huge, real strategic advantage.
    Can't think much farther than this, but I think it can be a big deal for a county.
     
  23. buhbuhfet

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    they would need to mine the bitcoins or buy them, but they won't because they can just rob the whole country blind with their banker notes so why bother?