Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut issue

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  1. Stryker7314

    Stryker7314 Limp Gawd

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    Recently bought some Conductonaut and it appears to have solids in it that would prevent a flat mating surface, I have experienced high temps because of it. See pic.

    Is this normal?

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  2. cyberguyz

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    You say you have experienced high temps because of it. So you applied it and ran your computer. How could you not notice that stuff in there when you applied it?
     
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    Yes applied it and ran the computer. It was liquid when it came out. Have you used it? Is this what it looks like after removing the IHS?

    It looks like small beads of solder coated with the liquid metal.

    Maybe a bad batch.
     
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    In that case I would suggest you contact Thermal Grizzly armed with this picture and what you have written here. It may have been a bad batch and it is costlier than the crown jewels so you should not have that kind of issue with it. I really hope you can remove it and it didn't damage your core package.

    I am assuming you of course know the dangers of using this type of tim with aluminum hsf or even some non-copper ones. It has been known to bond itself to some materials.
     
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  5. LigTasm

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    You put WAAAAAAAY too much of that shit on there, which is your problem with temps. Those are just air bubbles because you have so damn much of it on your die. I've seen the same thing plenty, you just use the syringe needle and suck some of it back up and spread again until its smooth.

    Make sure if you're putting the lid back on you put a very thin layer on there as well.
     
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    This.

    That application is HORRIBLE. It's so bad I am thinking this is a troll post. I mean, how do you get it that far off the die and not clean that shit off? You know it's conductive right? It takes the smallest amount, that you then spread out, make sure the surface is 100% lint free and use something that is not going to leave anything behind to spread it, you drag the material around, it's a slow process. I mean for heavens sake watch some of their application videos.

     
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    To be fair it does come out like crazy and maybe he didn't realize you can suck it back up unlike regular thermal paste. I just did my 8700k (delid+relid) and it took me 3 tries to get the right amount on there.
     
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    Definitely too much. Did you not read the instructions? It looks like you at least covered the the components otherwise that's a dead CPU.
     
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    It's easy to get out small amounts, and sucking it back up or not, wipe off the extra, with ANY TIM, you don't just gob it on, no less with something that is conductive.
     
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    To give the OP some credit not everyone is as experience working with TIM as some of us old hands, and conductonaut needs a lot more care than most because it is very conductive and reactive to aluminum.

    Besides the vid you put up there is not for conductonaut, and no they are not all the same. :p I didn't see any helpful vids on Thermal Grizzly's site though I am sure there are a few on utube out there for TG's touchier products like conductopnaut.
     
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    The video I posted is the exact same kind of TIM. I have used both extensively, viscosity is a bit different, as conductonaut is closer to Liquid Ultra rather than Liquid pro of the video. Lots of TIMs get hard to push out after sitting and will just come out, it's not hard to read instructions. However that is all besides the point, are you people not even seeing the photo the OP posted? That requires NO instruction to know that is a no no, I mean come on, that's 14yo first build levels of TIM application.
     
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    Application aside, still shouldn’t have solids in it that prevent seating. No the application did not introduce that. Having it off the sides of the die was the intention that way it also transfers heat up to the block. Yes everyone knows its conductive and “dangerous” hence the liquid tape over the only leads inside the IHS covered area.

    All posts in here are worthless. Changed TIM to MX-4 and temps are back to normal (Idle 20’s, load 50’s) with the same amount applied, how about them apples. Get a life folks so you won’t be so miserable and passive aggressive.

    Case closed, waiting on manufacturer response.
     
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