M76
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PC gaming is dead, and this is the year of linux desktop!
PC gaming is dead, and this is the year of linux desktop!
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Worst part is that even stuff like VSphere requires the use of active directory. You can have a 100% Linux environment but you’ve still got to have that one damn windows server for AD for horizon support.People prefer to use consumption-only device that are not designed to be tweaked. Film at Eleven.
You only have to learn something more powerful if you want to create content. That's the way things have been for the last five years.
As long as Windows has Enterprise locked-down, then folks will continue to use it for their jobs. That's how it's always been. Microsoft derailed the runaway train that was Linux by making Outlook/VBA a necessary evil, then creating Azure and absorbing Bash, so they have no more enemies in server (you can use whatever the fuck OS you want, just pay us for cloud servers
Microsoft has nothing to worry about.
Apple has no fucking clue where it wants to go as long as the iPhone is still standing, and none of their 1st-party productivity software products are a threat.
Google has docs and cloud, but for large-business needs these tend to fall short of MS. And if they want to go all-out against MS they must whip-up a Linux distro that can compete with RHEL. That won't happen overnight.
Amazon is already established as the cloud leader, but they have no inclination to own the OS side of things. Like Google, they release their own version of Linux just to power media consumption devices. And unlike Google, theere's not even the barest attempt at office software.
I can assure you that Win10 is not even a drop in the bucket of telemetry collection compared to Google and Facebook. You don’t even need to be logged into Facebook or using Chrome and the still get their hands in there through the integration services they have in just about every website. We’ve been closed for the last 2 weeks so when things fired up today the system alerted me and shut down because the massive uptick in flagged and blocked traffic made it trip up and thought it was some sort of attack in the network. All of it going to Facebook and Google servers for tracking telemetry.the problem with Windows 8+ is no one wanted it and it was forced upon us. Windows 10 is the king of telematics data collection...
Someone should write a daemon/taskbar app that spews garbage data at them.I can assure you that Win10 is not even a drop in the bucket of telemetry collection compared to Google and Facebook.
My GeoTag filter places me in the smack middle of the Atlantic Ocean so that must look fun on their side for what I don't manage to block.Someone should write a daemon/taskbar app that spews garbage data at them.
Speak for yourself. The average person doesn't give a shit what they are using. They want the shiny new thing above all else. People freely hand out their info nowadays.the problem with Windows 8+ is no one wanted it and it was forced upon us. Windows 10 is the king of telematics data collection...
More accurately - they want to solve their problems at hand as quickly and cheaply as possible.Speak for yourself. The average person doesn't give a shit what they are using. They want the shiny new thing above all else. People freely hand out their info nowadays.
care to provide an example? 'cause im not seeing that...I don t understand this thing where folks are proud to be Microsoft only
As a professional wouldn't you want to accumulate as much knowledge as possible ?
Knowledge is good but productivity is paramount. Microsoft nails business workflows when you get into the thick of it there is nothing from Linux that directly compares unless you start getting into the IBM suites and they are not budget-friendly at all. So those are very specific use case scenarios, and Microsoft is making great inroads into those markets too.I don t understand this thing where folks are proud to be Microsoft only
As a professional wouldn't you want to accumulate as much knowledge as possible ?
The article was not about Linux or MacOS to take the lead in a near feature, it was more about PC in generals dead at home being replaced by Ios, Android, ChromeOS and so on.So, is Linux #1 yet?
Clearly this is wrong, because the difference between 7 and 10 is minimal and I prefer 10. That said, it's important to remember that it was only 12 years ago when Hard OCP peeps were claiming that 7 was a huge mistake because of the new start menu (some things never change and whining about changes on H is def one of them).the problem with Windows 8+ is no one wanted it and it was forced upon us. Windows 10 is the king of telematics data collection...
I don't remember anyone complaining about the menu for Windows 7, and it was similar enough to Vista and XP's menus that the change was pretty minimal overall.Clearly this is wrong, because the difference between 7 and 10 is minimal and I prefer 10. That said, it's important to remember that it was only 12 years ago when Hard OCP peeps were claiming that 7 was a huge mistake because of the new start menu (some things never change and whining about changes on H is def one of them).
Was going to post this exact thing.The article was not about Linux or MacOS to take the lead in a near feature, it was more about PC in generals dead at home being replaced by Ios, Android, ChromeOS and so on.
The work from home 2020 pandemy phenomenon reversed that trend quite a bit.
Eh, kids these days. I've been complaining about the start menu since 1995. The Win 10 menu fixed some of the problems, but still I think the desktop icon based menu of Win 3.x was more intuitive. Just look at how iOS and Android menus are! Basically what Win 3.x had, just some refinement of the concept.I don't remember anyone complaining about the menu for Windows 7, and it was similar enough to Vista and XP's menus that the change was pretty minimal overall.
However, the menu in Windows 8/8.1, or lack-there-of, was a major issue and made that OS more difficult to use than it needed to be; every complaint about that OS was just as justified as were the complaints about Vista and ME.
Windows 10, and its contemporary Server versions, fixed all of that.
Was going to post this exact thing.
The article from 2018, especially in 2021, could not be more dated and incorrect.
Clearly this is wrong, because the difference between 7 and 10 is minimal and I prefer 10. That said, it's important to remember that it was only 12 years ago when Hard OCP peeps were claiming that 7 was a huge mistake because of the new start menu (some things never change and whining about changes on H is def one of them).
I can assure you that Win10 is not even a drop in the bucket of telemetry collection compared to Google and Facebook. You don’t even need to be logged into Facebook or using Chrome and the still get their hands in there through the integration services they have in just about every website. We’ve been closed for the last 2 weeks so when things fired up today the system alerted me and shut down because the massive uptick in flagged and blocked traffic made it trip up and thought it was some sort of attack in the network. All of it going to Facebook and Google servers for tracking telemetry.
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This is a snippet of a single user running Firefox, This traffic is what google is still attempting to collect from adds and various page services despite the network running add blocking and various DNS sinkholes to filter it before it even gets to us. And this user alone since 9am has generated some 10,000 blocked telemetry responses, and they are sitting in the average right now.
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Brave doesn't do any better unless you are telling it to block all java scripts as well, most sites have the telemetry units cooked right into the site if you visit it and you don't choose to then block all cookies and don't click or mouse over anything on the page then you are ok, but the second you interact with it in any way shape or form then they have you. And I have some 300 Ubuntu 20 desktops and a half dozen servers, they transmit just about as much telemetry as any of the windows 10 boxes and more than my 2019 servers. So I can tell you right now, your perceived sense of safety is just that.Good thing I use Brave Browser on Ubuntu 20.04.2. Oh, and I use Windows 10 for gaming only and will all telemetry blocked.
Brave doesn't do any better unless you are telling it to block all java scripts as well, most sites have the telemetry units cooked right into the site if you visit it and you don't choose to then block all cookies and don't click or mouse over anything on the page then you are ok, but the second you interact with it in any way shape or form then they have you. And I have some 300 Ubuntu 20 desktops and a half dozen servers, they transmit just about as much telemetry as any of the windows 10 boxes and more than my 2019 servers. So I can tell you right now, your perceived sense of safety is just that.
Very well could be, I can say honestly though the units I have in place with the absolute least amount of telemetry traffic are my Raspian's and my Redhats. But the Redhat servers don't have external IP's as they house the accounting systems so they are direct access only.No, my Ubuntu machines are objectively more private and secure, at least locally, than Windows 10 has ever been.
LOL. And people hated XP because it looked gamish, and before that they hated '95 because they missed Program Manager. I'll leave Me out of this except to say that it was mainly OEMs stuffing PCs with bloatware that gave Me it's not-really-deserved bad reputation. (Seriously. I was in the beta for both 95 and Me, and I never had a problem with any beta build of Me. Then I bought a HP desktop and it ran like garbage. For the first six months, I couldn't even view HTTPS sites at all, the page would never load. One day I got out my complimentary copy of Me and did a fresh install of Windows and guess what? WIthout all the HP-supplied bloatware, all my problems went away.)Clearly this is wrong, because the difference between 7 and 10 is minimal and I prefer 10. That said, it's important to remember that it was only 12 years ago when Hard OCP peeps were claiming that 7 was a huge mistake because of the new start menu (some things never change and whining about changes on H is def one of them).
I like that.LOL.
Clickbait, or yet another malfunctioning crystal ball.
Not unless around 90 percent majority is an anomaly .I don't know .. My wife, daughter and myself all actively use our respective desktop PC's .. My wife works from home so she has her work computer going that she is pretty active on .. and I have a laptop as well that I actively use .. they all run Windows 10.
I must be an extreme anomaly..?
The article is years old and has zero correlation with reality post 2020.I don't know .. My wife, daughter and myself all actively use our respective desktop PC's .. My wife works from home so she has her work computer going that she is pretty active on .. and I have a laptop as well that I actively use .. they all run Windows 10.
I must be an extreme anomaly..?
Exactly why it was brought back! Muahahaha!The article is years old and has zero correlation with reality post 2020.
In other words, the article is beyond irrelevant and anachronistic.
What alternate reality do you live in? Jesus.Attached keyboard = Laptop. A 2 in 1 is a laptop with a fancy hinge and an expensive to replace touch screen. The problem with Windows is people are sick of forced updates that fail (and outside of tightly controlled corporate networks, the failure rate is surprisingly high) as well as the constant threat of infection and Microsoft's manipulative tactics regarding Edge, Microsoft accounts and OneDrive (just to name a few). Couple that with Windows 10's poor performance regarding the entry level machines that are very popular as people are duped into believing that an 'Intel Pentium', 4GB or ram and a mechanical 5400RPM HDD should be enough for simplistic needs regarding internet surfing, checking email and viewing invoices/bill's as pdf's.
Which honestly should be enough (replying to this post on a Pi400 running TwisterOS off a USB SSD that costs a fraction of even these entry level laptops and runs an order of magnitude faster). The reality is such entry level Windows laptops aren't in any way suited to such simple tasks, resulting in frustration and people dumping Windows for smart phones and tablets running anything but Windows 10.
When released XP was crap. there was no noticeable improvement over Win 2K and system requirements were quite high. It took MS quite a bit of time to sort that mess outLOL. And people hated XP because it looked gamish, and before that they hated '95 because they missed Program Manager. I'll leave Me out of this except to say that it was mainly OEMs stuffing PCs with bloatware that gave Me it's not-really-deserved bad reputation. (Seriously. I was in the beta for both 95 and Me, and I never had a problem with any beta build of Me. Then I bought a HP desktop and it ran like garbage. For the first six months, I couldn't even view HTTPS sites at all, the page would never load. One day I got out my complimentary copy of Me and did a fresh install of Windows and guess what? WIthout all the HP-supplied bloatware, all my problems went away.)
I hardly ever use the start menu in any version of Windows. Nothing in Windows 8.1 was harder to do compared to 7 or 10 in my experience. Microsoft removing functionality with every subsequent update of Windows 10 is a far bigger issue than any superficial complaints people had about 8 or 8.1.I don't remember anyone complaining about the menu for Windows 7, and it was similar enough to Vista and XP's menus that the change was pretty minimal overall.
However, the menu in Windows 8/8.1, or lack-there-of, was a major issue and made that OS more difficult to use than it needed to be; every complaint about that OS was just as justified as were the complaints about Vista and ME.
Windows 10, and its contemporary Server versions, fixed all of that.
Was going to post this exact thing.
The article from 2018, especially in 2021, could not be more dated and incorrect.
Any OS would have poor performance on such a system - that is hardly exclusive to Windows 10 on such hardware.Couple that with Windows 10's poor performance regarding the entry level machines that are very popular as people are duped into believing that an 'Intel Pentium', 4GB or ram and a mechanical 5400RPM HDD should be enough for simplistic needs regarding internet surfing, checking email and viewing invoices/bill's as pdf's.
One of my annoyances with the new UI paradigm is definitely needing to type something in to find it, as I still cannot navigate directly to what I'm looking for as the way things are clustered make no sense to me. It is very annoying that things like the sound control panel are hidden in comparatively tiny text in the new settings menu. Change for the sake of change is most definitely a problem in many product sectors these days, especially in UI design where form has trumped function.If you never used windows before windows 8/10, i can see why you would think the user interface is good. Its "modern" and resembles smartphone interfaces. My wife and kids like it.
But as someone who has been using pc's from the DOS days, the win 8/10 ui is change for sake of change. It offers no functional improvements, it just changes stuff.
Why are windows borderless? Why is the active/ inactive title bars the same color? Why has the control panel been scrambled like a box of puzzle pieces?
Up until win 7, you could customize the ui to make it work in the way you were comfortable with. There is no good reason why they are continuing to expunge the older ui.
Change for the sake of change is most definitely a problem in many product sectors these days, especially in UI design where form has trumped function.
At some point there's no reason to not have Linux in the home.