The Top 10 Highest Paid YouTube Stars: 2018 Edition

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  1. RobCalleg

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    Do you watch Asmongold? I don’t play WoW anymore (like 8 years ago anymore) but I watch his highlight clip. Shit is great comedy.
     
  2. M76

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    If he even gets to 18 before ODing, he'll not be a contributor to society that's almost guaranteed.
     
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    M76 [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Payments are out of touch with the societal worth of the work. And not just for extreme outlier youtubers but for almost every "star" in the entertainment industry. If all of them went and quit doing their job tomorrow, nothing would happen, the world would just go on. But if any other industry workers did the same, the entire economy would fall apart in days. So why are they paid multiple magnitudes more, for the least critical job in society?
     
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    Geezus. I'm an old man in real life, and its like I wandered into an old folks home.
     
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    ITT:

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    "Back in my day we only had one shade of grey!"
    [hands you a newspaper]
     
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  7. Dekoth-E-

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    The jealousy of old people in this thread is truly laughable. *Bangs cane* I don't understand this new fangled thing people are doing so I'm going to rant about it.
     
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  8. BSmith

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    I can match that, easily. I have never watched anything on Youtube. When I search for something, if I cannot find a written version of hwta I need, I just go it alone and figure it out. I have Youtube completely blocked at home, and at work, my browser is set to block it.

    The reason I do not watch it has nothing to do with age, but if it makes you feel better to make that call, then go for it.
     
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  9. Denpepe

    Denpepe [H]ard|Gawd

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    Paul's hardware, Bitwit, Jays2cents and Linus among others, not sure what to call them, maybe advertisers for the big companies would also suit them although this would partially fall in the category bad press is also press.

    They give people hardware advise, build pc's with it and then troubleshoot them for a while bacause they don't work as intended.
     
  10. Denpepe

    Denpepe [H]ard|Gawd

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    No, I don't watch people play videogames unless I'm stuck somewhere, rather play myself.
     
  11. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    I'm not that extreme.

    I'll watch something rarely when I need to figure something out, like a couple of weeks ago when I was replacing the ABS module in one of my cars.

    It just didn't happen this week, and its rare enough that the long term average rounds down to zero.

    A few weeks (months?) My weekly average was a little higher, at 2 minutes.

    See above
     
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  12. ryno9100

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    Why, though? Honest question. What made/makes you hate YouTube so much that you won't even go to it for helpful things? I could understand if you were anti-Google or something like that, but otherwise, blocking it seems a little extreme.

    For all you folks saying YouTube is nothing but crap programming and video games, have you ever watched nutnfancy (mostly gun videos)? How about the Sci Show by Hank Green (an educational/fun science show)? There's a plethora of entertaining, informative, educational, and downright fun content on YouTube that isn't just video games and stupid people doing stupid things (Logan Paul...). Personally, I'd rather watch Hank Green explain complicated science things in easy to understand ways, while cracking jokes than some documentary on the Discovery or History channel anyday.
     
  13. SvenBent

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    that not the worst part.
    Even seen grown up adutls do it to. Wathing some other ppl playing with a ball in different ways for hours and hours and just like kids they get in fights about it.
     
  14. Fifliffl

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    Its crazy that these are the channels making the money. My 70 year old mother in law does watch Jeffrey star everynight though ugh.

    There are some good channels like Modern Rogue (highly recomended) , the hot ones interview videos are quite amusing, and early king of random comes to mind
     
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    I've learned (more or less) how to turn wood...please no jokes. All the books in the world on the subject would not have helped me get started as quickly as spending a week or so watching videos of people making rings/pens/bowls/cups/etc. There are a lot of good things on YT and a lot of things to learn but there's also no shortage of crap and Google gets more info on you. I can respect anyone who just wants to avoid it altogether.
     
  16. singe_101

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    I bet Howard Stern made this much in 2001, and there was a highlights show on E! but his show wasn't even on satellite radio yet. Now he makes $20 million in about three months.

    The Friends stars each made $22 million in their heyday and that was in 2002 dollars. I like Frasier but $1.6 million per episode for Grammer was a bit much.
     
  17. TordanGow

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    Did you seriously think YouTube could perpetually go on without revenue generation? I can't even imagine the computational resources and the cost of maintaining them. You have a site that serves Billions of Videos daily. This site needs to process all of the uploads, store them, move them to geographically relevant CDN and quickly access that 1 file you just requested out of I'd guess trillions at this point? That's not even getting into all of the data analytics and such, ie. "recommended videos" based on each user's individual interests, channel metrics, video metrics, comments, platform development maintenance, etc. All 24/7. I've also very seldom ever had any issues at all with the site.

    This site has to be monumentally expensive to run, at some point they need to bring in revenue.
     
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    I just want to know when Cobra Kai season 2 is out. The first season was excellent.
     
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  19. SamuelL421

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    How can there be this many people watching this trash? I read things like this and feel can't help but feel that I am out of touch with modern society. I have less than zero desire to watch videos of these (or other) random people / or their kids. On that note, money or not, I would never want videos of my kids being viewed by millions of strangers.

    *Sigh*

    related:

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  20. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    I'm not arguing that a company doesn't need to make money. They do.

    It would be better if the people poating videos, the USERS didn't get any slice of that pie. Then we'd get less of the pandering for likes and subscribes.

    Before they introduced revenue sharing YouTube was much MUCH better.


    That said, yes, I believe the internet was a better place back before there was no expectation of makibg money on it. Back when it was just geeks with Usenet, IRC, telnet and webservwra under their desks at work or did n their universities hosting content out of geeky interest.

    As soon as people got an expectation of making a living off of running a site, it all went downhill, and it further went all to hell as soon as businesses got involved.

    I'd go back to the early 90's internet with no moneymaking outside of ISP's and hosting, and everything in static HTML in a heartbeat.
     
  21. J3RK

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    To all the "old man" arguments in the thread, I'm not arguing against this. What I'm saying is that I think most of the content is crap. Obviously there are those that disagree or these people wouldn't be making money. I'm also all for the indie-movement and cutting out large corporations making all of the money that entertainers generate. (well, aside from the sponsors :D ) I watch my share of YouTube, but it's mostly synthesizer demos, DJ sets, and very occasionally some mindless BS when I need to turn my brain off for a minute. (Master Wong videos are good for this :p or some Commodore 64 game Long Plays while I work) I do have trouble calling anyone on the internet a "star" but for others (mostly younger) I guess they're the equivalent. I've got nothing against them doing it, even if I think they're asinine. I never signed a contract though, stating that I had to enjoy 99.99% of the content. :D
     
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  22. Retronym

    Retronym Something big is coming.

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    i only knew one of the names in the OP list. And have never seen him.

    get off my lawn
     
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    It may be our best defense. Keep those cameras rolling!
     
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  25. Zarathustra[H]

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    It's obvious that the older you get, the better taste in content you have.

    The young'uns need to get to know what good is :p
     
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  26. ryno9100

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    I disagree with Youtubers not getting a cut of the money. What incentive does Markiplier have to continue making quality content (subjective opinion, of course), if he and his staff make absolutely nothing from it? What would Mark Fishbaum, an actual person making a living, do if he weren't making a living on YouTube? Flip burgers? You really think he'd be better off there than where he is? I don't watch his content on any kind of regular basis anymore, but I subscribed to him after he released his 3rd video, and even if I don't care for his current content, I have to admire the absurd amount of work he's put in. He not only has to spend his time making content (from coming up with the idea, to recording, editing, mixing, etc), he has also managed to stay relevant longer than almost any other YouTube channel, needing to constantly tweak his formula to continue to draw in his target audience (mostly teens). If he wasn't paid, he'd do none of that, and the millions of people that watch his videos for entertainment would lose out.

    I disagree that YouTube was better before revenue sharing, too. I was around for their early days. Content now is much higher quality, even with sponsored videos, and in video ads, etc. I'm genuinely curious to hear your reasoning behind this statement, as well as saying things went downhill from the time businesses got involved (nearly every major YouTuber is running a small business via their channel, by the way, look at the Game Grumps. They're fairly open about it).

    I wouldn't go back to the 90s. Sure things were simpler, but there was also a lot less to be had. We still have threads dedicated to geek stuff (we're on one, for heaven's sake). We still have many of the things we had in the 90s. We just have more options.

    Also, don't get me wrong here, I think YouTube has its issues, especially as a company. I just reject the idea that the content creators are at fault in any way. I wouldn't fault my dad for starting his own mechanic company, as he did, and I don't fault Markiplier or PewDiePie for getting paid for making entertainment. It's the same concept in 2 different playing fields.
     
  27. Zarathustra[H]

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    Well, the quality statement is exactly what I am getting at.

    Content was better before all these tools where trying to make a career out of posting their bullshit on YouTube. Take away the source of money and these tools disappear and YouTube can return to just being a support tool for people trying to share short unedited video clips

    It was better when it was just unedited video clips directly from a recording device, used to support other things.

    You know, forum posts with "hey guys, there's this weird sound coming from my car, check out this embedded YouTube video".

    YouTube was great like that. I don't want there to be any non-amateurish content like this.

    As soon as the videos are edited, have music backgrounds have a narrator, etc. etc. It sucks. YouTube should be short bare clips only, not like TV shows.
     
  28. ryno9100

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    I think that's where you and I fundamentally disagree. YouTube has become an entertainment platform more than anything else. It sounds like you wanted it to stay at a very low level, basic video sharing platform. The biggest problem with that is that YouTube itself made little money doing that. I imagine that was a large factor in them selling to Google. Plus, there are better ways to do that in lieu of the old YT.

    As someone who thinks cable TV is far too expensive and lacking greatly in quality content, I appreciate modern YouTube. I don't watch a lot of entertainment media, but I'm appreciative of the many educational channels (Smarter Every Day, Sci Show, Slow Mo Guys [okay, maybe less educational than the other]) that the current YouTube environment has encouraged. Many times, I'll watch this kind of content while I work, just soaking up information in the background. I think Dustin, Hank Green, Gav and Dan all deserve to be paid for the effort they put in to that content. Especially if it costs me nothing but a 30 second ad to support them. I learn more watching YouTube for an hour than watching Discovery Channel for an hour. I can spend 10 minutes on a TechQuickie video and update myself on tech news if I haven't been able to watch my RSS feed. My wife, who knows nothing about cars except how to put on her spare, was able to change her headlight bulb by watching a high quality, sponsored video, who's goal was to make a quality, informative video, because that gives them views and likes, and that makes them money.

    You said earlier that you constant pandering for likes and subscribes is annoying. You and I can definitely agree there. Unfortunately, that has a lot more to do with YT and their algorithms than any particular YouTuber. To go back to my dad as an example, it's the equivalent him asking a customer to leave a review on Google (a like), or to come back next time they need an oil change (subscribe). It's how they get repeat customers (subscribe) and new customers (likes).

    Point is, I understand not wanting something to change as drastically as YT did. I feel the same way on many topics. However, there are better platforms for what old YT did available to us now and, besides that, you can still do exactly what you described on modern YT. YT has become something that, I personally think, is wonderful.
     
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  29. Rabid_Platypus

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    I am a cord-cutter and Youtube is a big part of my entertainment consumption. Does anyone remember when TLC (The Learning Channel) actually had educational content? Where's my cain! There is an incredible amount of good information to be had from the Tube.
     
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  30. Zarathustra[H]

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    I don't mind the entertainment platform aspect of things. I mean, that's not what I use Youtube for, but no one is making me click on videos I don't want to see.

    I just wish there were a greater barrier to entry. Keep sites that offer user generated video clip sharing separate from those offering professional content, offer revenue to the professional content, but not to regular users. In the traditional TV world people have gone through career paths and multiple levels of vetting before they wind up where they are. In our modern Youtube world any schmuck can get uppity, think they are special and start a "show".

    The likes of Youtube and Twitch have totally ruined kids these days. I can't even log on to an online game without having to deal with a bunch of tools streaming and trying to be "goofy" or "funny" to try to get people to watch their stream. It's everywhere it is disgusting. You can't get away from it.

    My stepson is 11 years old. For the last 3 years or so him and every single one of his friends have been dreaming of becoming the next big streamer, to the point where they can't even seem to just play a goddamned game and enjoy it anymore. Unless they have an audience, what is the point? Since we (understandably) did not let him upload whatever video content he wanted online he oven tried to pester us to be his audience and constantly watch him play some dumbass game.

    When I was his age, I couldn't wait to be left alone by my parents so I could just focus on my game.

    I guess I feel that the ease with which people can put content online has taken the problem of annoying attention whore asshole "aspiring actors" that used to only exist in Los Angeles and made it a worldwide phenomenon.

    I wish there were more of a barrier to entry. A bureaucracy stopping the average Joe from putting on a "show" so that it could be left to the professionals only, and we can kill off the dreams of internet stardom in all these tools, so they can go back to being ordinary goddamned human beings.


    This, and with the compensation model for Youtube being so high, it has meant that more and more good written article content has moved into youtube video format instead. I'm sorry. But there is absolutely nothing worse than a CPU or GPU review in video form, scrolling charts across the video screen. This is thew wrong medium for it, but even some respectable people in th etech world are now being forced to do it, because there is more money there than in selling your own ads on your own web-page.

    I guess I hate everything about the 20-teens. Everything has become worse than it used to be.
     
  31. Zepher

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    I've had my youtube account for 12 years now, and I haven't made enough money yet to hit the low limit to withdraw any funds, lol
    And with the change this year or last year, I get no monetization at all.
     
  32. ryno9100

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    I 100% agree with GPU and CPU reviews point. I will watch/listen to a Linus Tech Tips review while I'm doing something else, but if I'm seriously looking into something, give me a webpage, so I don't have to hit pause to actually see the graphic.

    As far as the low barrier to entry, that's part of what makes YouTube as good as it is. Any old Joe with a truly original idea can get on there and make a living. The Slo Mo Guys decided that filming things in slow motion was cool, no one else was doing it on Youtube, and now 2 guys that live across the ocean from each other make videos destroying things in slow motion for a living. They work their butts off to make the content, and I think their reward is well earned.

    I don't think every kid wanting to be a streamer is anything but the 2018 equivalent of every 80s kid wanting to be a rockstar or an astronaut. Sure, it's more annoying because it relies on instant gratification, but it's the same thing. A pipe dream that likely won't happen, but young kids will pursue it until they realize it won't happen. A couple will actually make it that far and turn it into a career though. I do agree that having to deal with those kids as a bystander is annoying, though. So was having to listen to the awful "musicians" next door.

    On a side note, I don't think it's YouTube and Twitch that have ruined kids. It's a society problem. Kids are taught that acceptance from peers is the single most important thing in the world, and if you aren't accepted, you're worthless. These kids see YouTube and Twitch as their access to that acceptance, same as my little sister sees how many likes or whatever her Snapchat stories get as her form of acceptance. My sister came down to visit once, and literally cried her eyes out when her Snapchat "streak" was lost. YouTube, Twitch, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, etc. are all just the tools that the kids are taught to use to search for a number that ultimately means nothing. That's just a personal theory, though, and not terribly applicable to our discussion here. Reddit Karma is life though. (/s of course)
     
  33. MavericK

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    Huh. I have never even heard of the #1 on here. I think I've heard of 7/10 of these, don't regularly watch any of them.
     
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    MavericK Zero Cool

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    But...don't you want to be probed...?

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    Holy hell.... you can make real money from uToob?
     
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    Fair question. I refuse to support anything related to Alphabet and its subsidiaries. I do not like the direction that company is steering the world in.
     
  37. rezerekted

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    Markiplier's voice is reason enough not to watch him.
     
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    bullshit. untill i see a real tax return, all this shit is bullshit inflated numbers.
     
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    lol that is gonna be a court case when the kid turns 19 to recover the millions of dollars he earned that his parents spent on themselves.

    Will be waiting for that one.
     
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    I don't think i have ever visited either of those channels.
    I assume all of them are channels with whet i would call garbage entertainment, so i prefer to see a video of the intricate mating rituals of west African ants.